Canada vs Jamaica Post game thread (R)

[simon99]

Here's the comment about the game I posted on another thread:

Canada hadn't played for 6 months and it showed today, I saw a lot of confusion between players. Good to see DeGuzman and Stalteri, I was more impressed by DeGuzman but to be fair to Paul he was out of position in the midfield. I think he'll drop back to defense when Atiba or Imhoff will be available.

Even if they are playing in second tier league Reda, Gervais, Pozniak and Braz always seems to do well when they play for us.

I like what saw from Simpson and Bernier, they were very lively on the pitch.

It's our fourth shotout in a row.

I think it was a good performance by Canada and we can work from there.

The attendance was 6 500. I was expecting a little bit better but that's still OK with me.

[Splatypus]

Full match as a torrent (http://tracker.denness.net:6969/torrents/94ef2e70a7e044061e397f3dea463a2208d3aa8b.torrent)

[Blizzard]

Agreed on all counts. I was pleased to see the way we moved the ball around. Very confident. No, Stalteri wasn't brilliant but as you say, he'll be at his best when moved to his normal position.

I'd have liked to have seen Brennan even if just for five minutes. Curious as to what he's got in him right now.

B

[schafer]

I was very impressed with Friend. This is the first time I've seen him for Canada, and I think he could be a very good CONCACAF striker. Physically and in the air, he was more than holding his own against the Jamaican defenders, and he showed good awareness with some of his flick-ons, although some went a bit astray, as is to be expected. Hopefully being in Holland will help him improve his game. That volley/bicycle kick was also impressive.

Mckenna looked good at the back, got skinnned once but otherwise was very solid. I think it is crucial that the midfield gets sorted out, as there were a couple of times where there was alot of space in front of the defenders, but I think moving Stalteri to defence and with the addition of Hutchinson, the 4-3-3 could be very successful.

[Midorit]

I was very impressed with Friend. This is the first time I've seen him for Canada, and I think he could be a very good CONCACAF striker. Physically and in the air, he was more than holding his own against the Jamaican defenders, and he showed good awareness with some of his flick-ons, although some went a bit astray, as is to be expected. Hopefully being in Holland will help him improve his game. That volley/bicycle kick was also impressive.

I agree with you.He would've been the man of the match even if not for the goal.You need someone who can pick up the ball he wins in the air,though.I saw the match at the stadium and he won the battle in the air almost 100% but most of it was wasted as no one was running onto his header flicks.

Also you seemed to struggle to cope with the speed of Jamaican players,especially number 16 who came on as a substitute,but never let them create serious chance through the middle.

Jamaica's disallowed goal,was it really offside?All my friends(canadians) and I thought it wasn't offside.The goal keeper made a terrible blunder.It looked like a routine sliced shot so I wonder what happened.It looked as if he did not see the ball until it was right in front of him.

ONE THING.Claude-Robillard really need to improve its service.I KNOW we don't go there to munch on pop corn but there was only one kiosk open and it was so understaffed it would've taken us twenty minutes to buy anything.It was an international match.Why couldn't they have at least one mobile vendor of drinks?

Oh,and who was the "Daniel" at the half time show anyway?

[Blizzard]

Jamaica's disallowed goal,was it really offside?All my friends(canadians) and I thought it wasn't offside.The goal keeper made a terrible blunder.It looked like a routine sliced shot so I wonder what happened.It looked as if he did not see the ball until it was right in front of him.




It looked good to me on the replay. It seemed that there was one defender closer to the end line than the breaking Jamaican attacker.

I'd say we got lucky for a change. Generally we get hosed by bad officiating.

B

[bolso4]

It looked good to me on the replay. It seemed that there was one defender closer to the end line than the breaking Jamaican attacker.

I'd say we got lucky for a change. Generally we get hosed by bad officiating.

B

any thoughts on Sutton yesturday? I think he did quite well (fumbled a few shots but all around he was fine <made some good saves to make up for it>)

Simpson is a great player, I wasnt surprised at all when I heard he got sold to Kaiserlauten in Germany (when I first saw him in the Gold cup i was impressed).

[Canadian_Supporter]

Any highlights available? I know there is a torrent, but I can't download torrents... :(

[Gordon]

I thought it was a choppy performance at best, that Stalteri had a poor game as did Braz. I know Stalteri can step it up, but Braz, while putting in some stronger performances previously, will always be hampered by his wheels (lack there off). I am not convinced that he is national team material. Friend, and the rest fo the team looked pretty good, if uneven in operformance. There were some interesting attempts in the offensive third, frequently going wanting due to the last pass, but succesful often enough to be encouraging. I was glad to see the midfield involved in the game throughout.

The Jamaican goal looked onside at the time of the save, the only thing I can figure is that perhaps he was offside when the shot was taken? Don't actually know if that actually matters in making the determination truth be told.

The offciating was poor throughout.

[tico_sapri]

waste of my time watching this game ... both teams did bad... and i hoped canada wouldve steped it up considering jamaica didnt have some of starters:(

[bolso4]

waste of my time watching this game ... both teams did bad... and i hoped canada wouldve steped it up considering jamaica didnt have some of starters:(


did a small review on a site that I post in (I do the football stuff on it)

Just short review :)

http://www.freewebs.com/seeno22/canadant.htm

[CanuckFan]

did a small review on a site that I post in (I do the football stuff on it)

Just short review :)

http://www.freewebs.com/seeno22/canadant.htm

I see a lot of people expressing disappointment over de Guzman's performance. I thought Julian looked alright and he and the rest of the team looked very much like they had not played together in too long. His build-up play led to the Canadian goal and it was his cross that picked out Friend just beyond the comfort zone for the Jamaican keeper. The midfield was admittedly a bit disjointed, but put that down to lack of familiarity and playing out of position (for Stalteri for example). I expect all will look much better when they play a few games (and play where they are a bit more comfortable).
Sutton was alright but certainly not terrific. His gaffe on that shot from well out on the off-side goal would be 'Onstad-esque' in a more important game but he did make some good plays on other occasions.
Notice Gerry Dobson said that Lars may get the call in October whether that rumour has any basis remains to be seen.

[simon99]

I see a lot of people expressing disappointment over de Guzman's performance. I thought Julian looked alright and he and the rest of the team looked very much like they had not played together in too long. His build-up play led to the Canadian goal and it was his cross that picked out Friend just beyond the comfort zone for the Jamaican keeper. The midfield was admittedly a bit disjointed, but put that down to lack of familiarity and playing out of position (for Stalteri for example). I expect all will look much better when they play a few games (and play where they are a bit more comfortable).
Sutton was alright but certainly not terrific. His gaffe on that shot from well out on the off-side goal would be 'Onstad-esque' in a more important game but he did make some good plays on other occasions.
Notice Gerry Dobson said that Lars may get the call in October whether that rumour has any basis remains to be seen.

I agree about DeGuzman, I really don't understand how can someone think that he played poorly.....I was also wondering if Gerry was speculating when he said that Lars would be call for the next game. To me, that would make sense to call him for that game (let's ignore wildboy26/cuddles24 reply to this please).

[Grizzly]

I was both at the game and have watched the torrent. Here is what happened on the Jamaican goal:

I have watched the disallowed Jamaica goal about 10 times and the offside call was correct. The problem is it is not the goal itself that was offside but rather the play preceding it which was called in an extremely delayed manner. Gervais made a poor throw in to double coverage which resulted in us losing possession. Jamaica passed it up the field and a long pass was made to Morrison who was at least a stride behind our defenders in an offside position. All of the defenders put their hand up to indicate offside and even Dobson called it yet the ref never looked at his linesman and allowed play to continue. Braz then stripped Morrison of the ball but cleared it poorly to another Jamaican player who shot on goal from far out. The ball was a bit wobbly but still far enough out that Sutton should have had it yet he misjudged it and it hit him in the face bouncing out to the onside Jamaican player Bennett who scored. The goal itself was good but the play preceding it was obviously offside. The correct call was made but the poor referree led to play continuing for 10 seconds after it should have been stopped.

I have posted my detailed impressions of the game on the Voyageurs site but here is a brief summary. Friend very impressive, Radz played great but no longer a scoring threat, Simpson very good runs but needs to finish with better crosses and should have put the DeGuzman feed away, Bernier worked hard and effective one of the better MNT efforts of a sometimes inconsistent player, Stalteri looked rusty and unsuitable as a centre mid but confident he will perform better once he is match fit and playing as a back, DeGuzman made some nice crosses and passes which probably should have led to more than the one goal it did had the finishing been better yet loses the ball too easily and one always feels that with his experience and the level he is playing at that he should give us a bit more, Grande was average when he was out there, Poz looked like the best of the backs before he got injured, Gervais was decent but got caught out of position too often, Braz was decent but got beat a few times but was able to move the ball up, McKenna had a real stinker of a game and was clearly beat several times one on one and was the worst of a poor backline, Reda was a bit more steady than McKenna but also lacks speed and quality, Sutton was shaky in the second half which is bad for a goalie who relies on consistency as opposed to shot stopping ability, Hume didn't look very good in the few minutes he was on but maybe this was due to his health problems.

Most disturbing was Hart was an absolute disaster as coach. We played with no organization, no formation and basically had 10 players just running wherever. The skill of our players totally outclassed the Jamaican side yet they stayed in it with superior tactics and organization and yes a superior coach. Even Yallop who I never liked always had our team far more organized than this. This lack of organization was far more apparent live when one could see the whole team than on the tv where the camera was focusing on the play. This shows the importance of us having a good coach regardless of how much better quality players we are producing.

[schafer]

Most disturbing was Hart was an absolute disaster as coach. We played with no organization, no formation and basically had 10 players just running wherever. The skill of our players totally outclassed the Jamaican side yet they stayed in it with superior tactics and organization and yes a superior coach. Even Yallop who I never liked always had our team far more organized than this. This lack of organization was far more apparent live when one could see the whole team than on the tv where the camera was focusing on the play. This shows the importance of us having a good coach regardless of how much better quality players we are producing.


Interesting point about the disorganization, I didn't really pick up on it watching on TV.