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thepremierleague
16 Aug 2002, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by FootyMundo
The big games in Italy are way better live than anything on the British Isles for atmosphere


Italian matches are the quietest on earth, almost no atmosphere compared to premier league matches.

You can often hear dogs barking and managers/players voices for gods sake.

FootyMundo
16 Aug 2002, 07:45 AM
I presume you are being sarcastic. But if you are not then you are speaking like someone who has never attended a big Italian match. The noise in the Olimpico for Roma - Lazio is the loudest thing I've ever heard. Again, I've been to the Old Firm. I've been to Arsenal - Liverpool. I've been to West Ham - Chelsea and Tottenham - Chelsea. I've been to Spain to see a game or two. I've been to the NBA Finals when the Bulls were at their peak. I've been to Monday Night Football for the Vikings - Packers in a Dome (Domes are damn loud for you European types who've never been to one). I've been to two Final Fours. I've been to Tennessee - Alabama, Ohio State - Michigan, Carolina - Duke. For you Euro types these are huge college football and basketball rivalries. I've been to the Azteca with 115,000 fans in the place.

None of those came remotely close to Roma - Lazio.

Nice try though.

Matt Clark
16 Aug 2002, 08:09 AM
I've been to Inter - AC. Quite a do. But equal to the Old Firm? Nah ... sorry. Didn't measure up my experience of the latter.

I've been to the Stadio Olimpico with Liverpool ("we alway win in Rome!") and the Roma crowd were OK, but nothing special. It's not the Rome derby, of course. Actually, I don't think the stadium helps, it's too much of an open bowl.

To say that nothing compares to the Rome derby is silly though. To say that about any game is a bit daft. Depends on time and circumstance, dunnit?

Kaiser
16 Aug 2002, 08:41 AM
Oh come on by far the best derby in soccer is South Wilkes-Barre Skyhawks vs. North Wilkes-Barre Cosmos. The is no substitute. Especially when the U8 teams clash woowee.

cpwilson80
16 Aug 2002, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by forest.clough
have been to the glasgow derby which blows all those away , but you would not say the spl is great would you, also merseyside,nottingham[forest v county],forest v derby , mansfield v chesterfield ,derbys may be ok but they dont happen every week. and the italians would still play the same .............................. defence.

I wasn't knocking SPL, I was defending Italian soccer. Italy may not be the style of play for you, but then again, EPL can be a little too much kick and run for me at times. I was merely suggesting that you'd probably have a good time attending the match instead of watching on TV.

I would love to go to an Old Firm match some day, just as I would love to go see Mexico-US at Azteca and Real-Barca at either place. Sure the level and style of play will be different at all these matches, but above all, the level of entertainment and value of the experience will be the same for me for all three games.

FootyMundo
16 Aug 2002, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Matt Clark


To say that nothing compares to the Rome derby is silly though. To say that about any game is a bit daft. Depends on time and circumstance, dunnit?

When it comes to the Rome Derby (or any huge rivalry) time and circumstance are pretty much the same every time. Granted we went to the game in April of 01 when Rome were in first and Lazio were in second in the race for the Scudetto. So maybe that helped add something to it. But this is a huge rivalry. It is always a big game. So do time and circumstance really matter here - not in any material manner IMO.

The EPL games I've attended are plenty fun. The crowds sing nice and loud and the pace is great. It just isn't nearly the spectacle of Italian soccer. And when the Italians have a big game on fold they get plenty loud. That Derby was certainly the loudest I've ever heard ANY stadium - it was far louder than Inter-Juve, it was louder than the Azteca last July for the U.S. Mexico and it was far louder than anything here in the states, including the fully enclosed 60,000 seat Metrodome packed to the rafters for a Packers game. Our ears rang for over two days after that Derby. It was quite frankly amazing.

Again, of the games I've attended nothing came remotely close. And I'm confident nothing else I'll ever see will. I've said maybe River - Boca could do it and maybe the Turks.

Jawz10
16 Aug 2002, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by forest.clough
italian football is booooring !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why would anyone want to watch when they can get live premiership ????
An agreement was not the point of this threads author. He asked a very simple question, how this somehow entitled you to your opinion on anything I'm not sure. Next time someone starts a thread on Nottingham Forrest I'll be sure to weigh in with my expert commentary of the state of korea's cullinary cuisine.

forest.clough
17 Aug 2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Jawz10

An agreement was not the point of this threads author. He asked a very simple question, how this somehow entitled you to your opinion on anything I'm not sure. Next time someone starts a thread on Nottingham Forrest I'll be sure to weigh in with my expert commentary of the state of korea's cullinary cuisine. i,d love to hear about the restaurant in seol that sells fried cats fanny,s thank you !