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jonam
27 Aug 2006, 09:31 AM
Right now on the newsticker. For that kind of money, we had to sell him. He is fast, technically limited and can be used as a weapon in certain situations. But 6.5 mio is serious money.

Good luck to him in Spain!

Neutral2
27 Aug 2006, 09:34 AM
Right now on the newsticker. For that kind of money, we had to sell him. He is fast, technically limited and can be used as a weapon in certain situations. But 6.5 mio is serious money.

Good luck to him in Spain!

yea, it´s good transfer for Dortmund, Sevilla and for Odonkor.

smithfan
27 Aug 2006, 09:53 AM
Great! I heard it's 6.8 Million (Source: Arena).

Good transfer for Borussia :)

HeyaBVB
27 Aug 2006, 10:50 AM
Great! I heard it's 6.8 Million (Source: Arena).

Good transfer for Borussia :)
Due to Borussias Webpage they just discussing it by now

footyfan1
28 Aug 2006, 08:06 AM
Westline are the only ones reporting it being close to being done. But as "jonam" said, they are the most reliable BVB source out there.

For the record, I don't like the deal. I think 6.5M is too little for a guy who could still play a major role in the team's future.

Especially as Betis just picked up 25M.

I thought something was missing from our offense on Saturday and that "something" was Odonkor. Without him out there, Stuttgart were able to put more pressure on Pienaar and Pienaar had his worst match to date.

However, I'd be more accepting of an Odonkor deal if they take that money and get some IMMEDIATE help in central defense.

Not a player 'for the future', but some IMMEDIATE f#cking help!!!

I don't like this deal. Not at all.

But as I say above, if BVB takes that money and gets IMMEDIATE help in central defense, I'd be more accepting of it.

david29
28 Aug 2006, 08:52 AM
Everything about this proposed, possibly finalised deal seems incredibly strange to me. First of all, why are Betis offering almost €7 million for Odonkor in the first place? I know Joaquin's up and left but paying a sum as large as this for a young German winger from the Ruhr Valley? Now I really like the guy and was certainly very proud of him at the World Cup, but to say he's still a season or two away from turning his pace and raw skills into consistent ability is something of an understatement. Not to mention the fact that he's going to a team that struggled badly last season, and is being asked to replace one of that club's best players of the last decade.

Secondly, why are we selling him that cheaply? His wages are hardly astronomical and if he develops to his full potential, he's going to worth a hell of a lot more than just £5 million quid. Perhaps this is just the reality of our financial situation, and is meant as a counter-balance to the sums paid for Valdez, Frei and Tinga. Nevertheless, the transfer window still has some time to run, why not wait until closing time to see just how badly they really need a replacement for Joaquin.

If it turns out that all that's transpired is that Betis have made an offer and Odonkor just wants to to examine it, as was mentioned in the press a day or two ago, then I don't want to have spoken too soon. Nor will the sky fall in if indeed this deal does go through. Unlike Koller, Rosicky and possibly Metzelder, however, this one I didn't see coming and I'd always prefer we hung on to as many local players with potential as we can.

Certainly for the sake of €7 million.

footyfan1
28 Aug 2006, 09:38 AM
Everything about this proposed, possibly finalised deal seems incredibly strange to me. First of all, why are Betis offering almost €7 million for Odonkor in the first place? I know Joaquin's up and left but paying a sum as large as this for a young German winger from the Ruhr Valley? Now I really like the guy and was certainly very proud of him at the World Cup, but to say he's still a season or two away from turning his pace and raw skills into consistent ability is something of an understatement. Not to mention the fact that he's going to a team that struggled badly last season, and is being asked to replace one of that club's best players of the last decade.

I think Betis wants to bring in a "name" player for as little money as possible. Why?

To apppease their fans for as little money as possible. Odonkor came out of the World Cup as one of "names to look out for" in 2010.

I think Betis wants to use some of that press to take some of the heat off management for Joaquin's sale.

Secondly, why are we selling him that cheaply? His wages are hardly astronomical and if he develops to his full potential, he's going to worth a hell of a lot more than just £5 million quid. Perhaps this is just the reality of our financial situation, and is meant as a counter-balance to the sums paid for Valdez, Frei and Tinga.


I think we're selling so "cheaply" because the management of this club "thinks small" when it comes to outgoing overseas transfers. They always have.


Nevertheless, the transfer window still has some time to run, why not wait until closing time to see just how badly they really need a replacement for Joaquin.

For one of three reasons:

1) They saw 6.5M and went "ga-ga".

2) They just want to get rid of Odonkor and they think that's as much money as they'll get.

3) They aren't "clever" enough to do so.


I'm thinking it's "1" or "3". More than likely, "1".


If it turns out that all that's transpired is that Betis have made an offer and Odonkor just wants to to examine it, as was mentioned in the press a day or two ago, then I don't want to have spoken too soon. Nor will the sky fall in if indeed this deal does go through. Unlike Koller, Rosicky and possibly Metzelder, however, this one I didn't see coming and I'd always prefer we hung on to as many local players with potential as we can.



I believe that Westline article says Odonkor is in Sevilla for a medical.

BVB never comments before a deal is done or it is imminent. But the fact that they put the rumor on the official website tells me that a deal is imminent.

No, the sky won't fall in, but I think we're better off with Odonkor as an option than with another 6.5M in the bank.

I just don't get how this club tells us over and over again that we want to finish fifth or higher and then goes and sells off a potential key player in our future growth for 6.5M Euros.

To me, the "local player" aspect doesn't mean squat. If we can get a kid from Munich to come in and do what Odonkor did, I'd cheer just as loudly for him.

I guess Ricken will move into that spot on the team or maybe Sahin will be trained to provide Odonkor's crosses.


Certainly for the sake of €7 million.

Well, I said earlier if BVB takes this money and gets IMMEDIATE help in central defense, I would be more accepting of the deal.

Not some other young kid "for the future", but someone who can step and and have an IMMEDIATE IMPACT on our defense whether he be young or "older". (Tinga "older", not Woerns "older")

Right now, I just don't f#cking like it........ :mad:

footyfan1
28 Aug 2006, 12:03 PM
Reuters says the deal is done, but no other English-speaking outlet does. I think they may be misunderstanding the initial reports.

Psychosis hsv
28 Aug 2006, 12:24 PM
no more pace down the flanks for bvb

footyfan1
28 Aug 2006, 12:27 PM
no more pace down the flanks for bvb


Yep, stupid deal in my opinion......

Psychosis hsv
28 Aug 2006, 12:37 PM
Yep, stupid deal in my opinion......
in terms of the money or play

lemons
28 Aug 2006, 03:18 PM
no more pace down the flanks for bvb

Which really sucks. Odonkor really brought energy to the team. Hopefully we make the most out of the transfer fee.

Achtung
28 Aug 2006, 03:31 PM
Damn, I really liked seeing him and wish he could have become the complete package at BVB. Fast, though his passing was improving. Who knows.

I'll still hold out some hope though that the deal falls through.

wolfsburgh
28 Aug 2006, 03:42 PM
Dortmund is in a better position to evaluate Odonkor than anyone else. Perhaps the coaching staff simply felt that while Odonkor may provide a spark, and may still have some upside, his ultimate potential is limited, he's never going to be more than guy who runs fast, and before anyone else figured that out, it was time time to cash out on him while the price was still high.

ForeverRed
28 Aug 2006, 03:57 PM
Sucks for the Bundesliga but great for German football and Odonkor and the NT.

Gunning4Chelsea
29 Aug 2006, 01:53 AM
I agree with Footy Fan here....stupid deal.....
I am not the biggest fan of Odonkor because, to me, at this stage of his career he is very one dimensional.....but his pace alone makes him a massive weapon....
6.5 Mil is not enough....I would bet that Betis would easily cough up 10-12 Euros for him to offset the loss of Joaquin - BVB saw the 6.5 and their eyes lit up like christmas trees.....
how can we fight for a european place - when we unload one of the -gulp!- best young wingers in Bundesliga....

bad deal

unless BVB has something new in the works

footyfan1
29 Aug 2006, 04:35 AM
BVB has confirmed the move. I'm awaiting the article to be sent to me for translation now.

I sure hope we're going to get some defensive help. Ricken or Sahin can cover Odonkor's spot.

Nowhere near as well, but they can give it a shot.

I still don't agree with this move unless we use the money to strenghten the team in other ways as "Gunning" alluded to in his last message.

I think they'll go for Westermann. And I hope he can help right away. I also believe this would signal the end of Christoph Metzelder's time at BVB.

Unless they find a way to change Metze's mind and send Brzenska's sorry ass back to the amateurs.

BayernWake
29 Aug 2006, 11:04 AM
Where do you think Metze would end up?

prymetyme
29 Aug 2006, 11:26 AM
It's a shame he left Germany, like many other germans i fell in love with Odonkor this summer. Hopefully he can just keep on improving and we'll see him on the 2nd!

david29
29 Aug 2006, 11:27 AM
Ricken or Sahin can cover Odonkor's spot. Nowhere near as well, but they can give it a shot.


How well has Lars Ricken ever performed in any sort of right-hand flank position? Keith's comments tend to suggest either not well or not at all, but while I'll obviously take whoever is the best man for the job, I can't say I'm thrilled about the idea of trying to turn Nuri Sahin into a winger. Time will tell I suppose.

As for Westermann, I rarely see any highlights involved Bielefeld, is he ready for a starting position if Metzelder were to leave? Or simply an investment for the next few years?