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SH diddy
26 Aug 2006, 07:00 PM
Can I get a hand from someone who may know something I missed.
1st....A defender intentionally kicks the BALL into his/her own net during play.....Whats the correct call?
This just happened in a U14 game and the ref said "Corner Kick"...had it been unintentional it would be an own goal.......Myself I am baffled!
Same game,,,,Goalkeeper plays a ball to her teammate in a wide area and the opposing forward choses to NOT chase and pressure,,,,,the back with the ball advancing to near the midline slows up and attempts to play a square ball to her centerback,,,however she miss hits the square pass and sprays the ball backward to the forward who had chosen not to chase...The ref calls offside.
Can an opponet play you a ball and force you into being offside?
Any help would be great on these.
A defender intentionally kicks the BALL into his/her own net during play. Whats the correct call?
This just happened in a U14 game and the ref said "Corner Kick"...had it been unintentional it would be an own goal.......Myself I am baffled!If this "kick" was directly from a free kick then a corner kick is the correct call (deliberate or accidental). OTOH, if this was from the run of play, then it most likely should have been a goal, resulting in a kickoff for the kickee. ;)
Goalkeeper plays a ball to her teammate in a wide area and the opposing forward choses to NOT chase and pressure. The back with the ball advancing to near the midline slows up and attempts to play a square ball to her centerback, however she miss hits the square pass and sprays the ball backward to the forward who had chosen not to chase. The ref calls offside.
Can an opponet play you a ball and force you into being offside?YHTBT, but I think this would not be offside since the "defender" had complete control which would reset the offside picture. (In fact, a similar scenario is on the referee test. ;) )
SH diddy
26 Aug 2006, 08:42 PM
It was from the run of play in the 1st instance......I am well aware of the dead ball issue you bring up.....I think this ref has tied all balls played into their own net in the same catagory as "balls from restarts"
Also, a little help in this shorthand lingo.."YHTBT" ???
USRef
26 Aug 2006, 09:10 PM
Also, a little help in this shorthand lingo.."YHTBT" ???
YHTBT: You had to be there
Claymore
26 Aug 2006, 09:39 PM
short answer: new ref (hopefully):o
jkc313
27 Aug 2006, 03:23 PM
[QUOTE=SH diddy]Can I get a hand from someone who may know something I missed.
1st....A defender intentionally kicks the BALL into his/her own net during play.....Whats the correct call?
During active play, it's a goal. Referee error
This just happened in a U14 game and the ref said "Corner Kick"...had it been unintentional it would be an own goal.......Myself I am baffled!
Same game,,,,Goalkeeper plays a ball to her teammate in a wide area and the opposing forward choses to NOT chase and pressure,,,,,the back with the ball advancing to near the midline slows up and attempts to play a square ball to her centerback,,,however she miss hits the square pass and sprays the ball backward to the forward who had chosen not to chase...The ref calls offside.
Can an opponet play you a ball and force you into being offside?
Of course not. Offside judged when teammate plays or touches the ball. Referee needs work
macheath
27 Aug 2006, 04:48 PM
Can I get a hand from someone who may know something I missed.
1st....A defender intentionally kicks the BALL into his/her own net during play.....Whats the correct call?
This just happened in a U14 game and the ref said "Corner Kick"...had it been unintentional it would be an own goal.......Myself I am baffled!
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me too. What do you mean when you say "during play?" Are you sure this wasn't a dead ball restart/free kick? If it was a free kick, where was it taken from?
DadOf6
27 Aug 2006, 09:25 PM
If this "kick" was directly from a free kick then a corner kick is the correct call (deliberate or accidental).
If a player puts a free kick directly into his own goal from within his own penalty area the kick is retaken because the ball does not become live until it moves from the penalty area to the field of play.
If a player puts a free kick directly into his own goal from within his own penalty area the kick is retaken because the ball does not become live until it moves from the penalty area to the field of play.
Do6, he does not state where the ball was kicked from, hence my comment in hopes that the ref had a prayer of doing the right thing. :)
Clearly, from subsequent comments, the ref needs a conversation with his mentor or assessor (and maybe a 2x4) lest he be found strung up by the short hairs in a the near future. :eek:
DadOf6
28 Aug 2006, 12:57 AM
Do6, he does not state where the ball was kicked from, hence my comment in hopes that the ref had a prayer of doing the right thing. :)
Clearly, from subsequent comments, the ref needs a conversation with his mentor or assessor (and maybe a 2x4) lest he be found strung up by the short hairs in a the near future. :eek:
Yep. Both of those calls seem to be misapplications of the Law. :eek:
vabeacher
28 Aug 2006, 01:19 PM
Yep. Both of those calls seem to be misapplications of the Law. :eek:
The understatement of the year!