Copa America 2007 draw

[Mosco]

Ahh so the draw being this Wedsday I will be looking forward to it
I think it going to be
Chile
USA
Boliva
Venezuela

in one group
Mexico
Colombia
Peru
Brazil

[MetroChile]

Ahh so the draw being this Wedsday I will be looking forward to it
I think it going to be
Chile
USA
Boliva
Venezuela



No objections on my part. :D

Metro

[lfsr1544]

No objections on my part. :D

Metro

On paper, you would think Chile has it easy with that draw, but playing a new type of Venezuela with all their guns blazing at home + a tough US side isn't that easy.

[MetroChile]

On paper, you would think Chile has it easy with that draw, but playing a new type of Venezuela with all their guns blazing at home + a tough US side isn't that easy.

I never said that.
But we just beat Venezuela in Maracaibo and they were only missing Arango. ;)
I've never personally understimated the US; and I know we would probably beat Bolivia.

Metro

[Caturro]

On paper, you would think Chile has it easy with that draw, but playing a new type of Venezuela with all their guns blazing at home + a tough US side isn't that easy.

We just beat Venezuela... at home... and we were missing a few players as well. Taking the right precautions USA shouldn't be much of a problem either.

[MetroChile]

One also has to consider that the US might have to split its team.
They have to defend their GC title, so they can't just send "B" squad (they could probably get to the Semis of the GC with an MLS side, but after that they would run into Mexico, or CR if CR does well in the UNCAF, etc...) The point being that they can't send two full squads to both tourneys. And like Caturro said (and like I said before) we just beat Vza (they were only missing Arango) in Vza.

Metro

[posteador]

USA will probably take a B team or half of their A team so they should be beatable.

[HeartandSoul]

From what I recall, the last time Chile played USA in a Copa America was back in '95, and Chile lost 2 -1, I think eric Wynalda scored a pair. This was when Chile was being led by the Spaniard Azkagorta who helped Bolivia get to their first world cup in 1994., but failed with Chile, this was the guy who coached right before Nelson Acosta took the reigns with their 4-1 win over Ecuador in Santiago.

At this moment, game could go either way, and whichever group Chile is in, will be difficult regardless, South America has to probably be the most competitive region in the world, and thats not including both of the big futbol powers in Concacaf which Mexico and the US are.

[Mosco]

Yeah I think Chile this copa america will be stronger espeacially with plays like Suazo from colo colo and Matias fernandez you have to watch that guy.

[Visca...]

what time?
Todo listo para el sorteo de la Copa América

(Caracas) (EFE).- Los representantes de la Confederación Sudamericana de Fútbol (Conmebol) y de los doce países participantes en la Copa América Venezuela 2007 comenzarán a llegar este domingo a Caracas, para acudir al sorteo del torneo, que se celebrará el 14 de este mes en el Teatro Teresa Carreño, de la capital venezolana.

Portavoces de prensa del Comité Local de Caracas indicaron hoy que el domingo por la noche llegarán los representantes de Paraguay y que el lunes se espera el arribo de las delegaciones de Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Brasil, Perú y Uruguay.

El martes arribarán Ecuador, Estados Unidos y el resto de países integrantes de la Conmebol.

Aprovechando la llegada de las delegaciones, el Comité de Trabajo Local (CTL) de Caracas inaugurará el lunes un centro promocional de la Copa América, en el Terminal Internacional del Aeropuerto Simón Bolívar de Maiquetía, a media hora de Caracas.
http://www.peru.com/futbol/AutoNoticias/FutbolPortada/2007/02/10/DetalleNoticia85588.asp

[Caturro]

From what I recall, the last time Chile played USA in a Copa America was back in '95, and Chile lost 2 -1, I think eric Wynalda scored a pair. This was when Chile was being led by the Spaniard Azkagorta who helped Bolivia get to their first world cup in 1994., but failed with Chile, this was the guy who coached right before Nelson Acosta took the reigns with their 4-1 win over Ecuador in Santiago.

At this moment, game could go either way, and whichever group Chile is in, will be difficult regardless, South America has to probably be the most competitive region in the world, and thats not including both of the big futbol powers in Concacaf which Mexico and the US are.

I really don't know how accurate that is. Every once in a while a gringo will come in saying that Chile and USA played circa 2001 but I honestly don't remember anything about a game in 2001. Supposedly we lost again, in Chile!

[Panfilo]

Has fox sports televised the draw?

Or is it already rigged that they don't want people to see how they come up with the groups?

[Caturro]

Has fox sports televised the draw?

Or is it already rigged that they don't want people to see how they come up with the groups?

They always televise the draws in Fox, but since Copa America won't be broadcasted by them... who knows.

And yes, I positively believe the "draw" is rigged. :D That's how we roll in South America! :(

[lfsr1544]

We just beat Venezuela... at home... and we were missing a few players as well. Taking the right precautions USA shouldn't be much of a problem either.


careful Caturro. Don't get all "Ecua" on me and think that Chile is ready to win the cup. No doubt Chile will be a contender but so will every other country. Sub-20 glory days are done (at least until summer) and that was indeed a good win in Venezuela but it means very little. Just like Colombia beating Chile 2-1 in your home soil meant very little. Jorge Luis Pinto (Colombian DT) has already held a press conference stating that he's coming to Copa America with his A squad. I gather many other NT would do the same, with the exception of maybe Brazil, but even then, the Brazil of TODAY IS changing. Roberto Carlos, Ronaldo, Cafu, Adriano...all these guys are no longer part of the process (maybe Adriano if he regains his form), so just because we don't see these stars in the next CA, we shouldn't assume that it's not Brazil's A team.

[MetroChile]

careful Caturro. Don't get all "Ecua" on me and think that Chile is ready to win the cup. No doubt Chile will be a contender but so will every other country. Sub-20 glory days are done (at least until summer) and that was indeed a good win in Venezuela but it means very little. Just like Colombia beating Chile 2-1 in your home soil meant very little. Jorge Luis Pinto (Colombian DT) has already held a press conference stating that he's coming to Copa America with his A squad. I gather many other NT would do the same, with the exception of maybe Brazil, but even then, the Brazil of TODAY IS changing. Roberto Carlos, Ronaldo, Cafu, Adriano...all these guys are no longer part of the process (maybe Adriano if he regains his form), so just because we don't see these stars in the next CA, we shouldn't assume that it's not Brazil's A team.

Who said we're ready to win the cup? :confused: :confused:
That would be nice but this stemmed from someone proposing a group that we thought would be rather favorable/reasonable. Nothing more, nothing less.
We have reason to feel optimistic, that's pretty much it (unlike in previous Copa Americas).

I don't know where the Brazil comment came from.

I, personally, don't think our U20 experience was much too sucessful (we had everything to go even farther, but we didn't) so I have no idea what you mean by "sub20 glory days". I don't know how much other Chileans agree, but I thought it was mostly a failure (happy about going to the U20WC, upset because we could've qualified to the Olympics).

Metro

[lfsr1544]

Who said we're ready to win the cup? :confused: :confused:
That would be nice but this stemmed from someone proposing a group that we thought would be rather favorable/reasonable. Nothing more, nothing less.
We have reason to feel optimistic, that's pretty much it (unlike in previous Copa Americas).

I don't know where the Brazil comment came from.

I, personally, don't think our U20 experience was much too sucessful (we had everything to go even farther, but we didn't) so I have no idea what you mean by "sub20 glory days". I don't know how much other Chileans agree, but I thought it was mostly a failure (happy about going to the U20WC, upset because we could've qualified to the Olympics).

Metro


the Brazil comment refers to folks not thinkong that teams are taking this CA serious enough. they are. That being said, Chile has a lot to prove in official results, in order to please their hinchada and in order to make their presence known to others. This draw is all specualtion at this point, but I take no one lightly. Even when i imply I'd love to have Bolivia and Peru in my group, I'm still aware that other then Braz/Arg, there are no clear favorites.

[HeartandSoul]

I really don't know how accurate that is. Every once in a while a gringo will come in saying that Chile and USA played circa 2001 but I honestly don't remember anything about a game in 2001. Supposedly we lost again, in Chile!

Caturro, I hope you aren't referring to me as a "Gringo", and if you are talking about accuracy, do a quick google check and check out past scores, Copa America 1995 held in Uruguay, Chile lost to the US 2 - 1, the last copa america USA had attented. That game had double significance for me, but I accurately remember the whole tournament, how Argentina was robbed by brazil in the 2nd round, To Uruguay taking the whole tournament in penalties over Brazil.

[Visca...]

Has fox sports televised the draw?

Or is it already rigged that they don't want people to see how they come up with the groups?
They showed the draw LIVE online for Peru 2004.

[Caturro]

careful Caturro. Don't get all "Ecua" on me and think that Chile is ready to win the cup. No doubt Chile will be a contender but so will every other country. Sub-20 glory days are done (at least until summer) and that was indeed a good win in Venezuela but it means very little. Just like Colombia beating Chile 2-1 in your home soil meant very little. Jorge Luis Pinto (Colombian DT) has already held a press conference stating that he's coming to Copa America with his A squad. I gather many other NT would do the same, with the exception of maybe Brazil, but even then, the Brazil of TODAY IS changing. Roberto Carlos, Ronaldo, Cafu, Adriano...all these guys are no longer part of the process (maybe Adriano if he regains his form), so just because we don't see these stars in the next CA, we shouldn't assume that it's not Brazil's A team.

How in the world would you get something like that in my comment? :eek:

All I said is that, in my opinion, Venezuela should be an opponent we can defeat as displayed in the friedly we just played days ago. I also said that I'm pretty confident Chile can win against the USA judged by what I've seen from the gringos. Again, quote me when I said Chile could win the whole thing?

None of the things I just said are farfetched.

I know for a fact this will be a very competitve Copa America and I believe Chile has a strong enough team to fight for something just like Colombia, Uruguay, Paraguay...

[Caturro]

Caturro, I hope you aren't referring to me as a "Gringo", and if you are talking about accuracy, do a quick google check and check out past scores, Copa America 1995 held in Uruguay, Chile lost to the US 2 - 1, the last copa america USA had attented. That game had double significance for me, but I accurately remember the whole tournament, how Argentina was robbed by brazil in the 2nd round, To Uruguay taking the whole tournament in penalties over Brazil.

Not at all man, I'm talking about the Americans we get every once in a while saying that supposedly Chile and the US played relatively recently (perhaps 2001) in Chile and the USA came out victorious. For some reason I've never heard of such game so I'm a bit suspicious as far as accuracy is concerned. I totally the 1995 game and know for a fact that it indeed happened.

Sorry if I confused you, I never questioned what you said in your previous post. :o