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BadReligion
21 Mar 2003, 03:51 AM
Who do you all consider to be the greatest european soccer/football/futbol/fussball player ever? I'd say Franz Beckenbauer, with Cryuff and Platini tied for a close second.
sinner78
21 Mar 2003, 03:53 AM
Chris Marsden from Southampton or Michel Platini IMHO
Clan
21 Mar 2003, 03:32 PM
Um...dunno 'bout that one Sinner.
Clive Walker of Chelsea or Platini.
MarioKempes
21 Mar 2003, 03:52 PM
The greatest European player ever was undoubtedly Alfredo DiStefano.
The next group down from him includes Puskas, Cruyff, and Beckenbauer.
tpmazembe
21 Mar 2003, 04:45 PM
DiStefano was naturalized, and more importantly had already played for Argentina national team, so I will not count him (or else would agree with you MarioKempes).
If one discounts Eusebio for the birth thing:
1) Cryuff
2) Beckenbauer
3) Platini
4) Puskas
5) Kubala
w/ Eusebio
1) Cryuff
2) Eusebio
clashcityrocker
21 Mar 2003, 04:57 PM
Hasta be Beckham. I ain't never seen this Pooskass fella in no shoe commercial.
lanman
21 Mar 2003, 08:23 PM
Puskas would be my top pick, with honourable mentions (in no particular order) for Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Best, Yashin, Matthews, Kocsis, Kubala, Kopa, Van Basten and Bozsik.
Mario
21 Mar 2003, 08:49 PM
Nice selection Ianman, you included the magic magyars Puskas, Kocsis and Kubala
comme
21 Mar 2003, 08:51 PM
I've already showed my discrimination against Beckenbauer, so Cruyff,Maldini, van Basten, Puskas, Baggio, Platini, Best.
Mobile
22 Mar 2003, 09:52 AM
I'm adding Bobby Moore to the list. Although IMO the best ever was Cruyff.
Belgian guy
24 Mar 2003, 04:53 AM
Cruijff, Boniek, Puskas, Kopa, Platini, Van Basten and, you'll laugh, but he has earned it to be mentioned: Raul
Bauser
24 Mar 2003, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by Belgian guy
you'll laugh, but he has earned it to be mentioned: Raul
Wait a few more years. He must perform better for Spain in tournaments before he can achieve comparison with the greatest. He hasn't been able to lift Spain to anything.
Mario
24 Mar 2003, 06:37 PM
I've been looking for info about Raymond Kopa does somebody know a link where I can find something?
BadAzzSnowboarder
24 Mar 2003, 07:12 PM
My all time:
1. Juergen Klinsmann - Was a one man bombing blitzkrieg
2. Johan Cruyff - Father of total football
3. Cha Bum Keun - One of the greatest goal poachers in Europe and in the Bundesliga when that league was the best in the 70s and early 80s.
4. Marco Van Basten - That acute angle right wing volley goal against Czech Republic and the Bicycle kick against De Graafschap alone are worth putting him up there with the upper echeleons of footballing legends.
5. Zinedine Zidane - Probably the greatest playmaker of all time
6. Ronaldo - Before his injury he was no doubt the greatest striker in the history of the game. Even afte rhis injury and even though he is not as graceful, fast, and as instinctive as he was, he is still better than most of the so-called star players of other big clubs. People just enjoy riticizing him because it is the fashionable thing to do.
7. Maradona
8. Raul Gonzalez - Everything Ronaldo has without the smooth grace and movement.
9. Rivaldo
10. Ahn Jung Hwan - South Korea's Ronaldo/Totti/Emre without the finishing talents of Ronaldo. Otherwise, he is one of the greatest dribblers and smartest offensive MFs in the world. It was a shame that he did not display his true brilliance and talents at the World Cup. What he did during that tournament pales in comparison to wha the is truly capable of.
Mario
24 Mar 2003, 07:16 PM
Those are the ones youre witnessed but waht about the others?
lanman
24 Mar 2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Mario
I've been looking for info about Raymond Kopa does somebody know a link where I can find something?
Try www.raymondkopa.com - his official site.
It's in French unfortunately (unless you speak french), although you could translate it through google.
Mario
24 Mar 2003, 07:48 PM
merci beaucoup, je parlent français
sinner78
25 Mar 2003, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by BadAzzSnowboarder
My all time:
1. Juergen Klinsmann - Was a one man bombing blitzkrieg
2. Johan Cruyff - Father of total football
3. Cha Bum Keun - One of the greatest goal poachers in Europe and in the Bundesliga when that league was the best in the 70s and early 80s.
4. Marco Van Basten - That acute angle right wing volley goal against Czech Republic and the Bicycle kick against De Graafschap alone are worth putting him up there with the upper echeleons of footballing legends.
5. Zinedine Zidane - Probably the greatest playmaker of all time
6. Ronaldo - Before his injury he was no doubt the greatest striker in the history of the game. Even afte rhis injury and even though he is not as graceful, fast, and as instinctive as he was, he is still better than most of the so-called star players of other big clubs. People just enjoy riticizing him because it is the fashionable thing to do.
7. Maradona
8. Raul Gonzalez - Everything Ronaldo has without the smooth grace and movement.
9. Rivaldo
10. Ahn Jung Hwan - South Korea's Ronaldo/Totti/Emre without the finishing talents of Ronaldo. Otherwise, he is one of the greatest dribblers and smartest offensive MFs in the world. It was a shame that he did not display his true brilliance and talents at the World Cup. What he did during that tournament pales in comparison to wha the is truly capable of.
Here was me thinking that this thread was about the greatest european player ever...
I didnt know that cha bum kuen ,maradona ,ronaldo ,rivaldo ,ahn jung hwan,etc.. were from europe.
Is cha bum kuen from Turkey??
lol
BadAzzSnowboarder
25 Mar 2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by sinner_ronald_monk
Here was me thinking that this thread was about the greatest european player ever...
I didnt know that cha bum kuen ,maradona ,ronaldo ,rivaldo ,ahn jung hwan,etc.. were from europe.
Is cha bum kuen from Turkey??
lol
All of them plays and played for European clubs, bro.
Cha Bum Keun is from South Korea. He's considered one of the greatest strikers in the history of the Bundesliga.
tpmazembe
25 Mar 2003, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by BadAzzSnowboarder
All of them plays and played for European clubs, bro.
Cha Bum Keun is from South Korea. He's considered one of the greatest strikers in the history of the Bundesliga.
Even if we were to accept your expanded definition of European player, Cha, as good as he was, is not deserving of being placed so high.
I remember Cha playing (I'm old), and as good as he was he was never considered a superstar. How could you justify placing him third on your list and other Bundesliga stalworths, like Rumenigge, Gerd Muller, Littbarski, etc, don't get mentioned? He certainly was not better regarded than them.
Only an opinion. By the way, did you know his son played on the Koread WC'02 team. Subbed and did a good job in several games.