Bravo vs. Chivas

[Differ]

no,of course i was not. i was even trying to defend him when he missed that penalty. but i'll tell you when i was saying something, when he would score and tell the fans to be quiet, and when he said he wouldn't mind playing for wilas, i think he said that, im pretty sure he indeed did... y ahorar esto. enough is enough. he disrespects the directiva and continually angers la banda rojiblanca. he needs to stop wit this crap and concentrate on winning us back, which he can:( easily do by winning a scoring title and taking us to a championship or two...

He did score goals and tell the fans to be quiet.

He did say that for more money he'd go play for america,

He also said "esta es mia" as he kissed the Chivas badge when he scored the 2 goals against Santos.

Now, however, he's saying that once his contract is up in 2 years he's out of here.

I celebrate his goals for Chivas and the MNT because they're goals for those teams, not the individual. Just like most of us who celebrated Cuah's goals for the MNT, because they're goals for Mexico.

If he leaves, I would give the spot to Santana. He hustles more than any other guy I've seen out there with the exception of Sol, who during Chepo's tenure has all but disappeared.

Borboa is one of the guys I'd like to see more of too. He made an amazing goal while he was out here with Chivas for the Interliga against Veracruz, and made an important goal in the semis against Jaguares. He's 23 now and is in form for the starting job also, if indeed Bravo is on his way out.

[terrible15]

He did score goals and tell the fans to be quiet.

He did say that for more money he'd go play for america,

He also said "esta es mia" as he kissed the Chivas badge when he scored the 2 goals against Santos.

Now, however, he's saying that once his contract is up in 2 years he's out of here.

I celebrate his goals for Chivas and the MNT because they're goals for those teams, not the individual. Just like most of us who celebrated Cuah's goals for the MNT, because they're goals for Mexico.

If he leaves, I would give the spot to Santana. He hustles more than any other guy I've seen out there with the exception of Sol, who during Chepo's tenure has all but disappeared.

Borboa is one of the guys I'd like to see more of too. He made an amazing goal while he was out here with Chivas for the Interliga against Veracruz, and made an important goal in the semis against Jaguares. He's 23 now and is in form for the starting job also, if indeed Bravo is on his way out.

Borboa will have his chance against Pachuca...Santana, Medina, and Borboa will probably start up front...

[Chivin]

Well, they should at least pay him what he's worth. I heard that he has the worst contract out of the top players at Chivas.
Did you see the car that he was driving when he left the club yesterday? I saw it on TV, I think it was a Z8. And it is a fact that they have been changing his contract year by year giving him more money.
If he leaves, I would give the spot to Santana. He hustles more than any other guy I've seen out there with the exception of Sol, who during Chepo's tenure has all but disappeared.

Borboa is one of the guys I'd like to see more of too. He made an amazing goal while he was out here with Chivas for the Interliga against Veracruz, and made an important goal in the semis against Jaguares. He's 23 now and is in form for the starting job also, if indeed Bravo is on his way out.
That's right. Maybe, if is not Borboa, it will be somebody else. Thankfully, now a day, whe have one of the best youth sistems, and we might find some surprises, if we do, he will realize that we do not depend on him and that he insulted US that love the jersey he is wearing. I would pay to play one game with that jersey, and to see somebody saying all that crap, hurts!

[RoWeN]

typical mediocre mexican staff...vergara doesnt even know about futbol...just how blanco said ...he is also a hypocrite...

[Chivin]

typical mediocre mexican staff...vergara doesnt even know about futbol...just how blanco said ...he is also a hypocrite...
It doesn't take a scientist to know that Bravo was wrong talking al that crap to the press. He couldn't get away with it and is because of comments like that that players don't change. What is Blanco going to know about manners or conduct or good behavior.

[fabled1]

If Chivas was so pissed at him and he was soo out of line, why didn't they just trade him to another mexican team? He is being made an example of, and hurts the image more of Chivas than Bravo. No one here knows what happened behinde the closed doors negotiation, so what if he was only a loan, they could have loaned him out and sold him back in mexico when he got back, or perhaps he could have proved his worth and been bought by another team in Europe. Do they have a players union for FMF? Could they have steped in under contract with Bravo, bought his contract from Chivas then they loaned him out to Huelva if all went well any further club intrested could have bought the right to Bravo from the players union. Every one makes money, every one stays happy. Would something like this develope a better system to introduce Mexican players into the international market. But albait all being said, situations such as this one all illustrate the growing pains of FMF and the need to demand change to the core structure of the institution.

[terrible15]

Well, they should at least pay him what he's worth. I heard that he has the worst contract out of the top players at Chivas.


What the fuk are you talking about!!!! he's the second best paid player in Chivas..

[Various Styles]

This is what I've been telling the Chivas faithfull all along.

Vergara es el 'El Zorro Mayor'.

Most people that say this are Amierdicanistas and Chivas haters in general. Truth be told Vergara didnt follow futbol before buying Chivas, but there is some truth to the Atlas connection, which is that they used to have a Omnilife sponsership in front of their jersey.

Now had Vergara been a Zorro fan he would of done a lot more than a jersey sponsership to help his club, that and he would of been able to take over that club quite easily.


Well, they should at least pay him what he's worth. I heard that he has the worst contract out of the top players at Chivas.

You heard eh.. Anyways, nice to see all you noobs are paying attention what happens with Chivas, clearly the most important club in Mexico.

[DelChiverio]

He did score goals and tell the fans to be quiet.

He did say that for more money he'd go play for america,

He also said "esta es mia" as he kissed the Chivas badge when he scored the 2 goals against Santos.

Now, however, he's saying that once his contract is up in 2 years he's out of here.

I celebrate his goals for Chivas and the MNT because they're goals for those teams, not the individual. Just like most of us who celebrated Cuah's goals for the MNT, because they're goals for Mexico.

If he leaves, I would give the spot to Santana. He hustles more than any other guy I've seen out there with the exception of Sol, who during Chepo's tenure has all but disappeared.

Borboa is one of the guys I'd like to see more of too. He made an amazing goal while he was out here with Chivas for the Interliga against Veracruz, and made an important goal in the semis against Jaguares. He's 23 now and is in form for the starting job also, if indeed Bravo is on his way out.

Thank you for exposing Omar's schizophrenic tendencies. Any unsuspecting fan looking at how Bravo celebrated his goals against Santos would believe that he is a man who loves Chivas. Omar is an imposter! El Rebano does not need him! He is not indispensable! Chivas is more important than the happiness of Bravo. Both sides must benefit from a transfer, not just the player. Bravo deserves the punishment that he is receiving because he lacks professionalism and his lie that Guadalajara is not opening the door for him to go to Europe. I hope that Bravo repents of his attitude, words, and demonstrates that he wants to be in the greatest team in Mexico. A disgruntled player does not benefit his own success nor the well-being of the team. I am very disappointed in Bravo.

Meanwhile, I want to see Santana and Borboa giving el Chiverio many goals and triumphs! Vamos Chivas a derrotar a Pachuca!

[mexicano]

Ojala que lo vendan al Atlas para humillarlo...

Mejor a Chivas USA :D

[amanzo81]

If Chivas was so pissed at him and he was soo out of line, why didn't they just trade him to another mexican team?...

no they could not, the mexican transfer period is over.

This is a bad situation for both bravo and the club. Bravo is a very up and down player, but is a goal scorer and for a club like chivas that can be difficult to find. For vergara and the front office, you have to wonder if any players would sign with the club if they feel the same will happen to them (ie they won't be allowed to transfer to euro clubs if interest exist). I may not have the full story, but from what I've gathered, both parties are in the wrong. Bravo shouldnt expect a transfer because of rumors as we have seen chivas blow similar situations recently. The directiva also shouldnt say that bravo owes them anything either. Yes they developed him, but he has spent years there and hasn't had extended periods of down play. You cant say hes just collecting paychecks, however inconsistant he may be.

Its a real shame to see bravo sent down to the primera A. Do any of you feel he will be called back up if chivas doesnt play well without him?

[devilman]

This is the worst thing that Chivas Directiva could do 2nd worst was getting rid of Galindo. Bravo scores goals.........

dummest thing ever......

[terrible15]

This is the worst thing that Chivas Directiva could do 2nd worst was getting rid of Galindo. Bravo scores goals.........

dummest thing ever......


Chivas was 10 seconds away from the final last season without Bravo...I dont think it was a mistake it had to be done....

[Brailovsky]

i think vergara hates chivas.... and he showed to everyone who was the boss again, and chivas is only his circus... need a prove, check the official photo, hehe

[terrible15]

i think vergara hates chivas.... and he showed to everyone who was the boss again, and chivas is only his circus... need a prove, check the official photo, hehe

I think you should worry about your team playing good or actually winning without the referees help...

[Brailovsky]

haha, you are in America forums, you get mad because the truth hurts...but the reality, vergara is hurting the mexican soccer. Mexican soccer needs a sindicato, and players need somebody that protect them. is not fair that profesional soccer players need to be payasitos when they need free time or practice. And maybe the comment about the circus, was kind of a joke, but Vergara already sent us a message, and it is "IT IS MY CIRCUS AND I RULE"

and sorry if somebody get mad, but is affecting mexican soccerand specially you, and i dont like bravo, but i think he doesnt deserve that kind of sh!t nor you chivas fan. the one that support his circus... vergara need to respect you, you pay tickets, you buy jerseys, and etc.

[terrible15]

haha, you are in America forums, you get mad because the truth hurts...but the reality, vergara is hurting the mexican soccer. Mexican soccer needs a sindicato, and players need somebody that protect them. is not fair that profesional soccer players need to be payasitos when they have free time. And maybe the comment about the circus, was kind of a joke, but Vergara already sent us a message, and it is "IT IS MY CIRCUS AND I RULE"

and sorry if somebody get mad, but is affecting mexican soccer, and i dont like bravo, but i think he doesnt deserve that kind of sh!t nor you chivas fan. the one that support his circus... vergara need to respect you, you pay tickets, you buy jerseys, and etc.

lmao....te duele el culo porque te diga que tu equipo vale verga...te enojas porque digo la verdad que el America esta muy viejo y sus jovenes no pueden con el equipo...o te duele porque Chivas es el mas grande del futbol mexicano...

[Brailovsky]

hey man, dont go off topic, de volada te prendes, if you wanna talk about that, i see you in other forum.

i dont care if chivas is the biggest club ever in the world, but you dont know how to read or you need a nap, it is kind of late. the reality is that vergara is out of control, and I think is not fair that a naquillo ruins an important club in Mexico, i didnt say anything bad, please i ask some chivas that wanna talk about that... im sympatize with you guys...vergara is pest..it is my opinion

i wont lower my levels responding about what you just said...

[terrible15]

haha, you are in America forums, you get mad because the truth hurts...but the reality, vergara is hurting the mexican soccer. Mexican soccer needs a sindicato, and players need somebody that protect them. is not fair that profesional soccer players need to be payasitos when they need free time or practice. And maybe the comment about the circus, was kind of a joke, but Vergara already sent us a message, and it is "IT IS MY CIRCUS AND I RULE"

and sorry if somebody get mad, but is affecting mexican soccerand specially you, and i dont like bravo, but i think he doesnt deserve that kind of sh!t nor you chivas fan. the one that support his circus... vergara need to respect you, you pay tickets, you buy jerseys, and etc.


If anything Vergara is helping Mexican soccer....since he got to Chivas he's been bashing on the femexfut for all the shady shit they've been doing for a long time...he's one of the few owners who believes in the Mexican player and believes Mexico could do big things in the world stage if they gave young players a chance...Vergara has already made Chivas Youth Squads one of the best in the world and believes he could make Chivas the best team in the world...shut the ******** up and please come again pinche ardido...

[Brailovsky]

If anything Vergara is helping Mexican soccer....since he got to Chivas he's been bashing on the femexfut for all the shady shit they've been doing for a long time...he's one of the few owners who believes in the Mexican player and believes Mexico could do big things in the world stage if they gave young players a chance...Vergara has already made Chivas Youth Squads one of the best in the world and believes he could make Chivas the best team in the world...shut the ******** up and please come again pinche ardido...

haha, ardido? whatever, you could believe whatever you want.

the only ardido eres tu, mira como te pones, relaxxxxx!!!

i dont care what you think, why?? because you dont give a coherent answer, and you always end with a stupid thing, you almost surprised me, i thought you were thinking.... anyways, to any inteligent person.....

did bravo say something that bad???

i think vergara is abusing from his power, what you say?