MLS to return to South Florida? Expansion club: Fusion Miami F.C. ??

[jade1mls]

I was going back through MLS trademarks live and dead the original names for Miami and New York were going to be Fusion Miami F.C. or Miami Fusion F.C. and Empire F.C.


Most interesting is that in the case of Fusion Miami F.C. it is still a live trademark while MLS let Miami Fusion and Empire F.C. go dead. Maybe there IS something to Don Garber mentioning Miami twice this year (in April and again in August during the State of the League address). More than that, it was RE-REGISTERED as late as January 31, 2006 meaning the League possibly intends to use it again in the not too distant future.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/Miami_Fusion_logo.gif

Word Mark FUSION MIAMI F.C.
Goods and Services IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: printed matter

IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: wearing apparel, namely, t-shirts, shirts, shorts, pants, jackets, sweatshirts, hats, sweatsuits and footwear
Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 01.05.25 - Sun, other representations of the sun
26.17.13 - Letters or words underlined and/or overlined by one or more strokes or lines; Overlined words or letters; Underlined words or letters
27.03.05 - Objects forming letters or numerals
Serial Number 78803491
Filing Date January 31, 2006
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) Major League Soccer, L.L.C. CORPORATION DELAWARE 420 5th Avenue, 7th Floor New York NEW YORK 10018
Attorney of Record Alan Blum
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

[Metros Striker10]

I'd love for that to happen. They had their own little stadium and anything. I miss the Miami days.

[FuzzyForeigner]

http://www.minigallery.co.uk/Hannah_van_Bergen/images/20060130221501099_l.jpg

[kenntomasch]

I have a feeling they renewed the trademark so that either they can sell retro merchandise or to keep Section 219 or somebody like that from snapping it up if the trademark lapses so they can sell merchandise.

I highly doubt it's for a future MLS team in South Florida.

Check on if they've done the same for the Tampa Bay Mutiny.

[HSEUPASSION]

I have a feeling they renewed the trademark so that either they can sell retro merchandise or to keep Section 219 or somebody like that from snapping it up if the trademark lapses so they can sell merchandise.

I highly doubt it's for a future MLS team in South Florida.

Check on if they've done the same for the Tampa Bay Mutiny.

Yea, they still own that. It's live too.

[Earthshaker]

Quick Jade, trademark Real Miami while you can.:rolleyes:

[Goodsport]

I'd love for that to happen. They had their own little stadium and anything. I miss the Miami days.

It would be pretty cool to have Miami Fusion FC and Tampa Bay Mutiny MLS expansion teams in a few years. :)


-G

[kenntomasch]

It would be pretty cool to have Miami Fusion FC and Tampa Bay Mutiny MLS expansion teams in a few years. :)

I could use that ugly 1996 Mutiny jersey I have. :)

Seriously, though, the reasons why MLS dumped those two franchises are still valid reasons today and they're the reasons this is unlikely to occur anytime soon.

[jade1mls]

It would be pretty cool to have Miami Fusion FC and Tampa Bay Mutiny MLS expansion teams in a few years. :)


-G

Don't count on Tampa Bay. All the trademarks associated with Mutiny are dead.

[jade1mls]

I could use that ugly 1996 Mutiny jersey I have. :)

Seriously, though, the reasons why MLS dumped those two franchises are still valid reasons today and they're the reasons this is unlikely to occur anytime soon.


Ok Kenn, I'll bite.

Why would:

a) Don Garber mention Miami twice this year? In April and then in his State of the League address when he rattled of the list of potential expansion cities.

b) If MLS didn't plan to return to Miami soon why re-register the trademark in January of this year?

c) Why would they allow other old trademarks like the Mutiny to go dead?

d) As anyone knows Tampa is NOT Miami and the fact that you lump both together tells me that maybe you might not know as much as you think you know about Miami and MLS.
What makes you think a MIAMI club if properly run and playing today?

Maybe i'm just reading too much into the tea leaves but when i see a newly registered trademark right under Toronto with a slightly new name and logo i get curious.

[kenntomasch]

Ok Kenn, I'll bite.

Why would:

a) Don Garber mention Miami twice this year? In April and then in his State of the League address when he rattled of the list of potential expansion cities.

Over the years, Garber has mentioned a great many cities as possible expansion cities. I have no idea why he'd mention Miami twice. I'm sure he's mentioned St.Louis and Cleveland numerous times.

b) If MLS didn't plan to return to Miami soon why re-register the trademark in January of this year?

As I said, better to keep your trademarks (as the NFL has with the Baltimore Colts, among others) so that you control what those trademarks are put on. If Section 219 thought it could sell Miami Fusion t-shirts and could get the trademark, they might do that. Better to keep that in house. Just saying that it doesn't necessarily mean that a return to South Florida for MLS is imminent.


c) Why would they allow other old trademarks like Mutiny to go dead? As anyone knows Tampa is NOT Miami

Really? Thanks. Considering I grew up in Tampa, I was wondering why we got those occasional hard freezes in the winter.

Someone above said the Mutiny trademark is live. You say it's dead. I have no idea.

and the fact that you lump both together tells me that maybe you might not know as much as you think you know about Miami and MLS.

I will gladly admit I know nothing about Miami's possible return to MLS because, quite frankly, I haven't thought about it (like I haven't thought about Cleveland or St.Louis or many other places that seem to be vaporware at the moment).

But the fact that you, in another one of your 18-20 daily posts in an attempt to fit in instantly, have gone from Fact A to conclusion Z in a matter of seconds without considering other possible explanations tells me that maybe you're trying a bit too hard.

But what do I know? I'm just an old man.

Maybe i'm just reading too much into the tea leaves but when i see a newly registered trademark right under Toronto with a slightly newname and logo i get curious.

Maybe you are. You get credit for the find if they ever do it.

[jade1mls]

Quick Jade, trademark Real Miami while you can.:rolleyes:


lol you give away my plan!
haha

[jade1mls]

But the fact that you, in another one of your 18-20 daily posts in an attempt to fit in instantly, have gone from Fact A to conclusion Z in a matter of seconds without considering other possible explanations tells me that maybe you're trying a bit too hard.

I love when cranky old people feel threatened enough to go personal online.

If i REALLY wanted to "post in an attempt to fit in" (as if i care,) I'd post half of those threads about single table and promotion and relegation, etc ad nauseum..

i think you just feel threatened that i won last weeks attendance prediction contest on my very first attempt.

[jade1mls]

I have a feeling they renewed the trademark so that either they can sell retro merchandise or to keep Section 219 or somebody like that from snapping it up if the trademark lapses so they can sell merchandise.

I highly doubt it's for a future MLS team in South Florida.

Check on if they've done the same for the Tampa Bay Mutiny.


That's just it Kenn and others, they haven't not to mention i noticed they changed the name and logo just slightly from the old Miami Fusion FC. Also unlike Tampa Bay it's not a Live trademark that was registered years ago and has been left to just hang out there but it is a newly registered trademark. I've looked more into it since last night and i see the subtle differences between the old Fusion and new Fusion.

Additionally it is at the top of the trademark list (meaning i guess that it was recent registration) right up near the Iterliga, Inter Toronto FC, Toronto FC, Houston, Chivas etc.

Here is a list of their 10 most recent registered live trademarks as of today:
Serial Number Reg. Number Word Mark Check Status Live/Dead
1 78606628 3116634 INTERLIGA RUMBO A LA LIBERTADORES TARR LIVE
2 78803491 FUSION MIAMI F.C. TARR LIVE
3 78881175 FC TARR LIVE
4 78881173 FTC TORONTO TARR LIVE
5 78848189 INTER TORONTO FC TARR LIVE
6 78835576 HOUSTON DYNAMO TARR LIVE
7 78826062 HOUSTON DYNAMO TARR LIVE
8 78803482 I I ICHIVAS TARR LIVE
9 76580166 3084090 INTERLIGA RUMBO A LA LIBERTADORES TARR LIVE
10 76977563 2978074 MLS FUTBOLITO TARR LIVE

[slimjim21591]

but there is a USL DIV 1 in Miami , Miami FC ...... how about FT Lauderdale ........... FT Lauderdale strikers

[jade1mls]

but there is a USL DIV 1 in Miami , Miami FC ...... how about FT Lauderdale ........... FT Lauderdale strikers

And there is perhaps the most compelling alternative explaination that not even Kenn thought of.

Maybe they are protecting that trademark so Miami FC doesn't take it.

I'm going to dig up this information and show you what i mean about 'subtle changes' in the logo and name that kinda of make one go 'hmmmm, Chivas, Inter Toronto, Fusion Miami F.C.?"