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Isaia
19 Aug 2006, 12:27 AM
Van Nistelrooy and Stam were both extremely good signings for Man Yoo. Unfortunately.

And Robben is a good signing for Chelsea. Real Madrid tried hard, but in the end accepted they couldn't lure him away from Chelsea.

Interesting article from The Guardian:

"I spoke not only to Ruud but also the other players in the Premier League who are in the Dutch team," said Kuyt, who has received his international clearance but is unlikely to start this afternoon's game at Sheffield United. "They said this is a perfect competition and that I would enjoy myself here. They didn't give specific advice but they said I would love it and I'm ready to play in the Premier League. They said Liverpool are a fantastic club with fantastic support and that we are ideally suited for each other.

"Arjen said the crowd is incredible. He played against them in the Community Shield and said he came into the stadium before kick-off and it was all red. He said Liverpool fans don't like him very much and said a few things to him, but he also said Liverpool have a very good team and will challenge Chelsea this year."

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1853623,00.html

SiriuslyCold
19 Aug 2006, 01:20 AM
He said Liverpool fans don't like him very much and said a few things to him

gee, a regular einstein.

Sire
19 Aug 2006, 05:06 AM
The thing with Kuyt is that unlike a lot of strikers that are available and out there - e.g. Martins, Klose, Saviola - his pedigree is much less. He'll have everyone's support, that is not the issue. The point is that unlike the aforementioned players, he will not have everyones' belief in him as a given. He'd have to prove himself moreso than say... Klose would have to.

Another point I was trying to emphasis is that Liverpool gotta step up sometime. Count the transfer money for Cisse, Heskey, Diouf, Kuyt and so on...well how about buying a well-known, established, goal scorer with a pedigree for 30 million pounds? Add the money we've spent on forwards these past few years, and a striker in the top tier of goal scorers would have easily come and would have probably gotten us more goals than the players we ended up buying.

feyenoordsoccerfan
19 Aug 2006, 06:05 AM
Good on you for being a booster for all things Feya and Dutch, though. You are very vociforous.

When Kuyt came to Feyenoord I wasnot thrilled at all. First he came from a club I hate and second I doubted if he could be of any worthwhile contribution to the team. I changed, rather Dirk changed my mind and I hate loosing him to Liverpool. If you take the effort why you should read my post on him in the Feyenoord thread, that might give you an insight on what Kuyt is about and Benitez has spotted that already three years ago before I did.

By the way, Chelsea has taken immediate counter measures by signing Khalid Boularhouz, the HSV defender nicknamed the "cannibal". He's the one who tried to slice up Christiano Ronaldo for dinner:D . HSV sold him because he ate too many Hamburgers:D

OldPoem
19 Aug 2006, 06:06 AM
I think it is smart decision to buy Kuyt instead of those so called top striker in other 3 big leagues (EPL, LA Liga, Serie A). Who we can really get iin 10M range? Don't forget this summer we spent lot in transfer market before acquired Kuyt. Get 4th striker will make us challenge for title this year and with this year transfer actions will make us in good position to buy so called top striker next year without fill other needs.

Next summer we will have money to spend for top player even big money player because our team won't have many holes to filled. Striker will be one position we will look at again to replace Fowler and maybe Right back position if Kromkamp leaves or can't fill in Finnan shoes.

feyenoordsoccerfan
19 Aug 2006, 06:07 AM
Would you like fries or salad with your order...???
Please do, with sauce hollandaise of course:p

feyenoordsoccerfan
19 Aug 2006, 06:38 AM
There have been some posters in this thread doubting Kuyt's ability to be a success for Liverpool. They cite the fact that players like Kezman have not been a success in the Premiership straight from Holland.

I would prefer to look at example of successful imports from Holland. Think of Istanbul May 2005. It is not hard for a Reds fan. Two of the starting eleven were imports straight from the Eredivisie into Liverpools ranks - Dudek and Hyppia.

Van Nistelrooy and Stam were both extremely good signings for Man Yoo. Unfortunately.

In fact players from Holland are well suited for the English game as they almost all speak English well and the climate and culture is more similar than most other countries. The adjustment required is less. Also the Dutch have proved that they are excellent teachers of technique when developing players.

Also reflect on the fact that there are several Dutch posters in this thread who support a variety of Dutch teams. Almost universally they are praising Kuyt and are confident of his abilities. It is also the case that they are the ones who have had the most time observing Kuyt play and therefore the best qualified to give a judgement on his skills. This bodes well for the success of Kuyt at Anfield. If all the Dutch posters were slating his abilities then I would be more worried but happily this is not the case.

I had more doubts about Crouch this time last year but he has delivered.

Kuyt is now a Red. He already has my support.

As a matter of fact Kuyt is the most popular Nat. team player and probably the most popular player in the Dutch competition.

johan neeskens
21 Aug 2006, 02:53 AM
Rather than comparing the Dutchman Kuyt to the Serb Kezman (which is absurd anyway as they're completely different footballers), consider the track record of Dutch strikers' first move abroad over the past 10 years or so. The only Dutch striker to fail at his first foreign adventure that I can remember was Dennis Bergkamp (....).

While it is true that success in the Dutch league does not guarantee success in a foreign league, I think it's pretty safe to say that no country in the world produces as many quality strikers as Holland. Even Dutch strikers that are considered not good enough in Holland itself do well abroad: Makaay and Hasselbaink notably were both considered mediocre by the Dutch as was Van Hooijdonk initially.

In short: I for one would be very surprised if Kuyt didn't do well for Liverpool.

Red Bird
21 Aug 2006, 05:16 AM
Actually, Kezman was signed by Mourinho who has a lousy eye for talent. Enough said.

I think Kuyt will be a success at Liverpool; maybe not as prolific a goal-scorer as van Nistelrooy but a far better team-player. And not over-priced, either. Exactly what we need at Liverpool.

usscouse
21 Aug 2006, 10:12 AM
I remember all the talk when Nando came and how excited I was..........

Enough talk. When do we see him in action for the 'pool. Let him form our opinions for us on the pitch. He's a Liverpool player now, like it or not.

Sire
26 Aug 2006, 05:17 AM
Martins, who I mentioned earlier in this thread as good buy, went to Newcastle. 21 years old, 8 million pounds, great forward, proved his worth in Serie A.

Twenty26Six
26 Aug 2006, 06:41 AM
Martins, who I mentioned earlier in this thread as good buy went to Newcastle. 31 years old, 8 million pounds, great forward, proved his worth in Serie A.

Fixed your post. ;)

Sire
26 Aug 2006, 09:10 AM
Fixed your post. ;)

Obafemi Martins is 21 years old.

Anyway, after seeing Kuyt play today...*takes humble pie out the fridg*.

Twenty26Six
26 Aug 2006, 10:19 AM
Obafemi Martins is 21 years old.

Anyway, after seeing Kuyt play today...*takes humble pie out the fridg*.

It was a joke, yea? There was a rumor that Martins was older than his advertised age [like 5-6 years older]. Roeder hinted at it before they signed him.

Kaynem
26 Aug 2006, 10:57 AM
The guy looked good today. He looks very promising. Seems like a better version of Crouch. Holds the ball up, links with the midfield BUT can turn away from a man, has reasonable speed and looks like hes got a shot.

Bobinhood
26 Aug 2006, 11:33 AM
Hes very smart positionally, he gets into spaces and hes faster than i thought also. Early signs are very promising indeed. Gerrard was looking for him all day, which must mean hes impressed him on the training ground so far.

liverbird
26 Aug 2006, 12:17 PM
Hes very smart positionally, he gets into spaces and hes faster than i thought also. Early signs are very promising indeed. Gerrard was looking for him all day, which must mean hes impressed him on the training ground so far.

That's what I saw. Good runs, good positioning, unselfish, good awareness of those around him -- I was impressed

ULL NEVER WALK ALONE
26 Aug 2006, 12:53 PM
That's what I saw. Good runs, good positioning, unselfish, good awareness of those around him -- I was impressedi was impressed aswell....he did look great,recovered some excelent balls and linked up well with most of the players.....maybe its actually money well spent.for the first time well be able to field a quick striking partnership,and with crouch from the bench well have an awesome front line.

Sven-from-holland
26 Aug 2006, 01:42 PM
Kuyt???Now that's what you call an old-fashioned English-style ugly centre-forward :D

http://www.teamtalk.com/Images/73033.jpg

ForeverRed
26 Aug 2006, 02:01 PM
I don't care how he looks to be honest...as long as he plays like he did today.

He has the passion of Bellamy, the workrate of Gerrard, the intelligence of Alonso and the finishing of Fowler......really looking forward to seeing more of him.