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Kryptonite
10 Aug 2006, 02:48 PM
Just absolute wow. (http://www.apple.com/macpro/)

Meet Mac Pro. Running at speeds up to 3GHz, Mac Pro not only completes the Mac transition to Intel processors but delivers advanced performance, workstation graphics, and up to 4.9 million possible configurations.

Storage
Four independent 3Gb/s Serial ATA cable-free, direct attach hard drive bays; four internal hard drive carriers included
Up to 2TB of internal storage (2) using hard drives in the following capacities:

Hard drive bay 1
+ 160GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache
+ 250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache

o Hard drive bay 2
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache

o Hard drive bay 3
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache

o Hard drive bay 4
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache



Just when you thought you couldn't be impressed, Apple stuns again.

Pibe#10
10 Aug 2006, 02:58 PM
I want to see Window's response to this, damn that rig is nice.

Kryptonite
10 Aug 2006, 03:05 PM
Four hard drives. I think that's the first time, outside Foos' build-it-yourself system that i've seen such a large setup. Certainly, it's the first time where you could buy such a large system out of the box.

Daniel from Montréal
11 Aug 2006, 12:42 AM
I want to see Window's response to this, damn that rig is nice.
Windows doesn't make machines. Neither does Microsoft.

And you can run Windows on Mac Pro (and all Intel Macs) with "Boot Camp".

Kryptonite
11 Aug 2006, 01:55 PM
Windows doesn't make machines. Neither does Microsoft.

And you can run Windows on Mac Pro (and all Intel Macs) with "Boot Camp".

Good point. You'd have to compare Windows to OSX; Apple to Dell.

Not just Boot Camp, but there's 2-3 other similar programs. Boot Camp is one of the best, i've heard.

It's still a nice machine though.

Pibe#10
11 Aug 2006, 03:23 PM
Windows doesn't make machines. Neither does Microsoft.

And you can run Windows on Mac Pro (and all Intel Macs) with "Boot Camp".

you know what I meant, IBM clones per say :p

noaihmtch
14 Aug 2006, 02:45 AM
Just absolute wow. (http://www.apple.com/macpro/)

Meet Mac Pro. Running at speeds up to 3GHz, Mac Pro not only completes the Mac transition to Intel processors but delivers advanced performance, workstation graphics, and up to 4.9 million possible configurations.

Storage
Four independent 3Gb/s Serial ATA cable-free, direct attach hard drive bays; four internal hard drive carriers included
Up to 2TB of internal storage (2) using hard drives in the following capacities:

Hard drive bay 1
+ 160GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache
+ 250GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache

o Hard drive bay 2
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache

o Hard drive bay 3
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache

o Hard drive bay 4
+ 500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s, 7200-rpm, 8MB cache



Just when you thought you couldn't be impressed, Apple stuns again.

and with this spec you will waste $4500 for something hardly anyone uses. indeed apple stuns us all

Kryptonite
14 Aug 2006, 07:39 PM
you know what I meant, IBM clones per say :p

2 Terabytes. Dell's "cutting edge" disappoints at 1 Terabyte. (2x500 gig)

Kryptonite
14 Aug 2006, 07:43 PM
and with this spec you will waste $4500 for something hardly anyone uses. indeed apple stuns us all

You could always spend less. But you get what you pay for.

Don't forget to download your driver updates, security updates (there were at least 14 for Windows over the past 2 months), patches, maintenance upgrades.

Then you'll have to pay for a anti-virus checker, and update and run that. Then you'll have to check for spyware.

Then you'll get a virus and have to pay someone to come clean out your computer.

Then there'll probably be some more critical updates to download.

Then you'll have to run your virus checker again.

Then, if you have time, you'll have to run to the store and get some tylenol because you'll certainly have a headache.

You get what you pay for.

Pibe#10
15 Aug 2006, 11:54 AM
You could always spend less. But you get what you pay for.

Don't forget to download your driver updates, security updates (there were at least 14 for Windows over the past 2 months), patches, maintenance upgrades.


yup, for the past week or so I've been getting that little notice of "updates are ready"..........

Kryptonite
15 Aug 2006, 11:35 PM
yup, for the past week or so I've been getting that little notice of "updates are ready"..........

Search my posts in the technology forum and you'll find out that one of those updates phones home back to Microsoft. :eek:

Andy Bennett
18 Aug 2006, 08:36 PM
You think you've got it bad... My brother runs, (has to, unfortunately), a couple of servers with windows Server 2003. A little while ago MS were releasing patches and fixes quicker than he could install them. He'd install one or two and then have to get everyone to logoff so he could reboot the machine if necessary. This would take a while and then he'd reboot only to find out later the same day that MS had released ANOTHER patch. It just wasn't practical to keep shutting down the servers that relugarly.

Things went relatively quiet after a while but, even so... mickey mouse operation or what!!!

Kryptonite
18 Aug 2006, 09:10 PM
You think you've got it bad... My brother runs, (has to, unfortunately), a couple of servers with windows Server 2003. A little while ago MS were releasing patches and fixes quicker than he could install them. He'd install one or two and then have to get everyone to logoff so he could reboot the machine if necessary. This would take a while and then he'd reboot only to find out later the same day that MS had released ANOTHER patch. It just wasn't practical to keep shutting down the servers that relugarly.

Things went relatively quiet after a while but, even so... mickey mouse operation or what!!!

I wonder if it would be possible for everyone to turn their computers off on Friday night and set it to auto-update over the weekend?

$5 billion spent last year in research and development...

Dante
18 Aug 2006, 09:39 PM
At my work we're supposed to restart our computers every day when we leave and not log in. Supposedly they install updates and patches overnight. I have noticed many times that if I turn my PC off at work and come back a couple days later my comp will lag for at least 30-60 minutes when I first turn it on. The systems dept. tells me that it's because it's installing updates in the background.

Kryptonite
18 Aug 2006, 09:54 PM
That's scary. You think they could somehow install the updates on the server and have that suffice (since all traffic goes through the server, it just acts as a portal/gateway to the outside).

Ringo
19 Aug 2006, 12:27 AM
and with this spec you will waste $4500 for something hardly anyone uses. indeed apple stuns us all


:confused: :confused:
What it produces --- images, movies, etc. --- everybody could use. what's stunning is that this post of yours was entriely predictable. do you honestly think that something produced on a Mac only works on a Mac (and vice versa)?
this computer is obviously pushed towards the high-end professionals. What they're producing with this machine you'll be paying $10 to go see on the big screen. it's not a secret that many (most?) creative professionals prefer Macs.

Andy Bennett
19 Aug 2006, 09:32 AM
I wonder if it would be possible for everyone to turn their computers off on Friday night and set it to auto-update over the.
Not on the server you can't. It would be shutting down at odd times after it had completed it's updates and users, some of them remote connecting in over the internet, would be disconnected or otherwise inconvienced. Security's a problem no matter HOW you organise things but it's even more of a headache if the software has to be constantly updated because it wasn't written correctly the first time.

Andy Bennett
19 Aug 2006, 09:40 AM
That's scary. You think they could somehow install the updates on the server and have that suffice (since all traffic goes through the server, it just acts as a portal/gateway to the outside).
Well, a firewall and a server are 2 different things strictly speaking but even in those cases where they're the same thing updates and security patches on the server are almost worthless if the user's PC isn't patched and updated as well.

Pibe#10
23 Aug 2006, 08:04 AM
Search my posts in the technology forum and you'll find out that one of those updates phones home back to Microsoft. :eek:

I read it a while back, Thanks.