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Dan Loney
09 Aug 2006, 02:05 PM
Chivas USA has had terrific promotions, dating from before the club existed. The San Bernardino open tryout from a couple of years ago yielded no players - not even any players good enough to compete for a spot on the team that would play some of the worst ball in league history. But it drew a bagful of fans, to a metropolitan area that is, shall we say, underserved by the mainstream sports entertainment dollar.

Even the little ideas have been done well - the lucha libre mask giveaways, the appearances in faux-Mexico national team jerseys, the contacts with Antonio Villaraigosa (who, after all, is a mayor of a city where Chivas USA does not actually play). One of the best ideas yet starts today - the 100 Hour Game where passersby as well as old-time club legends will kick the ball around in celebration of the club's centennial.

Which is part of the problem for other MLS clubs trying to duplicate those results - Chivas USA is glomming onto the tradition built generations ago and hundreds of miles away. It's successful, of course, but highly problematic as a role model for other teams. Compare the glowering discontent of Jose Mourinho as he didn't even pretend to be happy to meet the American and Canadian legends behind the Los Angeles Galaxy. Mourinho might not have been aware of the Galaxy's existence before arriving at UCLA. Even if he had, he might have wondered aloud why his team was obliged to train in Los Angeles for an exhibition in Chicago. Picture the Dallas Cowboys flying to Dublin to train for a game in Prague, then having to pretend to care about their "sister" team for a series of photo ops.*

At least Real Madrid was merciful and/or paid well enough to prop up their namesakes in Saltistan. If that doesn't save the franchise, nothing will.

And that's why, however terrific an idea I think the 100 Hour Game is, I won't be dropping by. Because it's not a celebration of Major League Soccer. It's about something I have nothing to do with. I'd stop to see an 11 Hour Game in celebration of another MLS team, or a 2 Hour Game to celebrate Real Salt Lake, or a scheduled 11 Hour Game in San Jose that gets cancelled after 10 hours over the protests of fans. But Chivas de Guadalajara means nothing to me.**

But there is only so much reflected glory that any MLS team, including Chivas USA, can get from posing next to their social superiors. (Somewhere I have a picture of myself standing next to John Prine, but I'm not going to win any Grammy Awards in the near future.) As Jorge Vergara is learning this week, the only thing worse than not being in a position to inconvenience a big club is actually being in such a position. We've all heard, and were amazed, at the story, but Guadalajara snubbed a league game in order to play an exhibition. Keep an eye on Chivas' group in the Mexican League now, because if they miss a playoff spot by three points or less, the horse laughs will be long and loud.

Whether Vergara will hear them over the huge sacks of cash he made on Sunday is another question.

*Even this isn't a good example. The real Dallas Cowboys are currently stuck in Oxnard, California for training camp, so they would probably take this deal.

**Does Chivas de Guadalajara have any non-Mexican fans anywhere?

SideNetting
09 Aug 2006, 02:31 PM
What's the 100 hour game? I have no idea what you're talking about. Also, Chelsea chose to train in L.A. for the media coverage they assumed they'd receive from Hollywood.

Dan Loney
09 Aug 2006, 02:41 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about. Boy, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that.

Chivas 100 Hour Game (http://chivas.usa.mlsnet.com/MLS/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20060809&content_id=68565&vkey=pr_cdc&fext=.jsp&team=cdc)

SideNetting
09 Aug 2006, 02:53 PM
Thanks for the link.
I get the feeling that even if Chelsea and the Galaxy didn't have a relationship, Chelsea and their players would want to hang out in Planet LA for training.

FlashMan
09 Aug 2006, 03:13 PM
Boy, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that.

Chivas 100 Hour Game (http://chivas.usa.mlsnet.com/MLS/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20060809&content_id=68565&vkey=pr_cdc&fext=.jsp&team=cdc)

even your link explains less than half of it.

loved your thoughts...

DoctorK
09 Aug 2006, 03:48 PM
Hate to break the news to you Looney, but Chivas USA isn't celebrating its 100th anniversary. Club Deportivo de Guadalajara S.A. de C.V. are 100 years old, and the 100 Hour Game is in their honor.

ThreeApples
09 Aug 2006, 03:56 PM
Hate to break the news to you Looney, but Chivas USA isn't celebrating its 100th anniversary.Thanks for the newsflash, Cronkite.

Matrim55
09 Aug 2006, 03:58 PM
Hate to break the news to you Looney.
You called him Looney instead of Loney. I get it.

DoctorK
09 Aug 2006, 04:00 PM
Thanks for the newsflash, Cronkite.

Hey man, don't shoot the messenger. ;)

Dan Loney
09 Aug 2006, 04:12 PM
Doc, in all seriousness - and I'll try to keep this quick, because this is gonna be BORING.

(1) Went back and re-read Larry Newsham's foreword, and I was way, way wrong about my second paraphrase of the end of his introduction. I totally blew it, and I apologize to everyone.

(1a) However, I stand by the first paraphrase (although, again, I didn't explicitly label it as such, so I suck for that). You can't write "They called him Larry, but his name was Joe." I've actually seen "Joe 'Larry' Gaetjens" out there. If he were alive, he'd laugh...but if he were alive, no one would be saying it. It's a bastardization of our history that only been corrected recently. I want our real history out there, not the fake.

(2) I deliberately conflated Chivas de Guadalajara and Chivas de Guadalahaha. See, that's exactly what the Chivas USA front office is doing. It's their entire marketing strategy. Has been since Chivas and Cleveland were awarded franchises. That was the source of the high comedy of the thread title. Occasionally I will try to be funny, and apparently, I failed.

DoctorK
09 Aug 2006, 04:30 PM
I deliberately conflated Chivas de Guadalajara and Chivas de Guadalahaha.

Oh I like that, I really really do! It'll give me something more interesting to say than just Goats (which suddenly doesn't seem anywhere near as insulting as ... Donkeys). :eek: I swear, I'll give you credit whenever asked. ;)

SankaCofie
09 Aug 2006, 07:36 PM
Hate to break the news to you Looney, but Chivas USA isn't celebrating its 100th anniversary. Club Deportivo de Guadalajara S.A. de C.V. are 100 years old, and the 100 Hour Game is in their honor.

You mean to say there is ANOTHER Chivas in Guadalajara? And I thought having one was horrible.

bigdumbgod
09 Aug 2006, 07:44 PM
I'd stop to see...a scheduled 11 Hour Game in San Jose that gets cancelled after 10 hours over the protests of fans.

Hey! Who cancelled it? Bastards! F*** AEG!


Does Chivas de Guadalajara have any non-Mexican fans anywhere?

Yeah, whenever they play Club America, they come out of the woodwork.

DoctorK
09 Aug 2006, 09:55 PM
And I thought having one was horrible.

Oh, you know how goats reproduce...

Brian in Boston
09 Aug 2006, 10:09 PM
It'll give me something more interesting to say than just Goats (which suddenly doesn't seem anywhere near as insulting as ... Donkeys).Donkeys, you say? Try Chivas de GuadalaHEE-HAWWWWWW!!!

djwalker
09 Aug 2006, 10:20 PM
Hate to break the news to you Looney, but Chivas USA isn't celebrating its 100th anniversary. Club Deportivo de Guadalajara S.A. de C.V. are 100 years old, and the 100 Hour Game is in their honor.

Wow.

TOTC
10 Aug 2006, 01:11 PM
Oh I like that, I really really do! It'll give me something more interesting to say than just Goats (which suddenly doesn't seem anywhere near as insulting as ... Donkeys). :eek: I swear, I'll give you credit whenever asked. ;)

Have you noticed that BigSoccer is now advertising inflatable barnyard animals? I kid you not.

DoctorK
10 Aug 2006, 01:16 PM
Have you noticed that BigSoccer is now advertising inflatable barnyard animals? I kid you not.

Even better than the real thing? :eek: I shudder to think the uses they'll be put to...

TOTC
10 Aug 2006, 03:47 PM
Even better than the real thing? :eek: I shudder to think the uses they'll be put to...


http://www.bigsoccer.com/ads2006/adimage.php?filename=loveewe_728x90.gif&contenttype=gif

Too bad these aren't goats ...

OKTerrific
10 Aug 2006, 09:55 PM
Hate to break the news to you Looney, but Chivas USA isn't celebrating its 100th anniversary. Club Deportivo de Guadalajara S.A. de C.V. are 100 years old, and the 100 Hour Game is in their honor.


For the sake of actually getting some sleep tonight, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was just joking.

Phheww.