View Full Version : Grahame Jones: Nowak as coach, Klinsmann as technical director
wufc
07 Aug 2006, 03:15 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-soccol7aug07,1,2631008.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports
Did anyone here come up with this idea? Sounds like it could be a wild option that could work.
Matrim55
07 Aug 2006, 11:34 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-soccol7aug07,1,2631008.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports
Did anyone here come up with this idea? Sounds like it could be a wild option that could work.
While it's a good idea, it doesn't change the fact that Grahame Jones is a fool. The US exits the World Cup in the first round every four years? Nowak has 10 years in MLS? Way to subvert the premise of your own article with asinine fact-checking there, bub.
drew_VT_6
07 Aug 2006, 11:37 AM
Good read. I'd really like to see Klinsmann associated on some influential level with US Soccer.
IowaBoy
07 Aug 2006, 01:15 PM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-soccol7aug07,1,2631008.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports
Did anyone here come up with this idea? Sounds like it could be a wild option that could work.
Well, on HDNet last night, Marcelo Balboa said he thought it would be good to have Yallop as the US coach and Klinsi as the Gals coach...(no comment)
Tony in Quakeland
07 Aug 2006, 01:16 PM
Outrageously great Plan B. I'd love it.
bltleo
07 Aug 2006, 01:29 PM
Good read. I'd really like to see Klinsmann associated on some influential level with US Soccer.
looks like I was right or I will be right:)...Klinsi will be not USMNT coach
I told many many times here that Klinsi will do another job that coaching..
technical director is one possibility...but this way he will not coach USMNT
maybe be involved in some business issue of american soccer, make profit,
make money. He will think of HIS OWN BENEFIT.He donīt care of future of american soccer. Just on his own success. Remember this. Maybe he will do some "silent" advisory services for german team, we can not exclude this:)
superdave
07 Aug 2006, 01:56 PM
Nowak has 10 years in MLS?
It's 9, so I wouldn't roast Jones for it.
Li mu bei
07 Aug 2006, 01:59 PM
It's 9, so I wouldn't roast Jones for it.
Yeah you would.
Good thing his error is out there in print, rather than in here in post. ;)
Haole
07 Aug 2006, 02:30 PM
While it's a good idea, it doesn't change the fact that Grahame Jones is a fool. The US exits the World Cup in the first round every four years? Nowak has 10 years in MLS? Way to subvert the premise of your own article with asinine fact-checking there, bub.
Also, he has K. living in Huntington Beach. He lives in Newport Beach.
Jones must dictate these puff pieces on his phone...on the way to the race track.
He's always propping himself up above everyone else but, he's a hack too.
JeremyEritrea
07 Aug 2006, 02:48 PM
It's 9, so I wouldn't roast Jones for it.
This is the league's 11th year. The most experience anyone in the league could have is 10 2/3 seasons. Nowak was also traded to New England after the '02 season, but he never played for them at all in the '03 season.
Jones wrote "now, with more than 10 years in MLS under his belt, it is safe to say that he also understands how the sport works — or doesn't work — in this country."
It's more like a little over 8. However, I do think that he understands soccer in the USA, which is something I'm not sure Jones does.
scarshins
07 Aug 2006, 02:52 PM
It's his 9th season as player or coach. He was on that 98 Fire team.
JeremyEritrea
07 Aug 2006, 02:54 PM
It's his 9th season as player or coach. He was on that 98 Fire team.
And he didn't play or coach at all in 2003.
Ghost
07 Aug 2006, 02:57 PM
So are we going to pay Juergen the 2 1/2 million a year (or whatever it was) to be the technical director and then pay Nowak on top of that? Or are we going to come back to Klinsmann and cut the offer? And if so, why does he take the job rather than taking some other coaching job?
sidefootsitter
07 Aug 2006, 03:00 PM
For $2M, they can get a lot of good coaches but they're painting themselves into the corner or trying to go cheap.
MightyMouse
07 Aug 2006, 03:01 PM
Nowak is more than capable of coaching, now, with that said, is he ready for the wild, wild CONCACAF!!! His record against Mexican teams and Chile is not that great... I can see it now, we tie Guatemala at home and then get killed 4-0 in Guatemala. (ok I'm kidding, but every time DC gets into these tournaments lately I feel like they will do great one game and then lay an egg the next)
Adam Zebrowski
07 Aug 2006, 03:33 PM
so we have wynalda, balboa and lalas pushing yallop??
what incest is going on there....
oddly. late in the chelsea match, waldo pointed out nowaks contract was expiring, and then proceeded to mention nowak as a usmnt potential...
jones does point out and excellent aspect, nowak does NOT coddle his players...
and I think adu is learning a valuable lession, being exposed to this guy...
donovan....what would nowaks hard edge do to his fragile psyche??
on the whole arena was a players coach, despite the criticism of donovana and beasley in june, arena covered for his players the vast majority of the time....
so after a players coach, moving onto one with nowak's intensity would be a significant adjustment...
where would landon run then...
and does ussf consider that a factor...
keeping landon happy might eliminate nowak...and nicol to an extent too...
leaving klinsmann...
and if klinsmann declines, yallop, and what did he do for canada....???
were they even in the hex...yallop is a step up??? NOT
Tony in Quakeland
07 Aug 2006, 03:38 PM
keeping landon happy might eliminate nowak...
Why? Especially since keeping Landon happy clear has not paid off. Landon needs to be uncomfortable.
Adam Zebrowski
07 Aug 2006, 03:54 PM
landon beign happy might be a MAJOR concern with usf decision makers...
hence the hots for yallop...
nowak would force donovan into a uncomfortable zone...
remind him somewhat of the processes at leverkusen perhaps...
that's my concern, gulati et a l value DONOVAN too much, making nowak a lesser player
Tony in Quakeland
07 Aug 2006, 04:02 PM
landon beign happy might be a MAJOR concern with usf decision makers...
hence the hots for yallop...
nowak would force donovan into a uncomfortable zone...
remind him somewhat of the processes at leverkusen perhaps...
that's my concern, gulati et a l value DONOVAN too much, making nowak a lesser playerI think you are making too much out of that, as far as the US Soccer perspective. I doubt keeping any one player happy factors that much into it. (And if Freddy is happy at DC, who is to say Nowak won't make him happy? Dueling icons Freddy and LD.)
That said, Yallop has slide behind Nowak as my favorite domestic candidate, but Yallop is without question a great coach. He was remarkable when he was here and would do a great job. I think he's a better choice than Nicol (who I also like).
By the way, I don't get the feeling Wynalda is interested in making Landon happy and he is one of the leading voices for Yallop. I think it is based purely on Yallop being a great coach.
Rob Base
07 Aug 2006, 04:07 PM
I keep coming back to the notion that if a candidate doesn't have a better pedigree that Arena, what's the point. Sunil could have just kept the Bruce. I don't think either Nowak or Yallop at this time have a better pedigree, though I do like them both. As a supporter and fan, I want there to be some excitement about the new coach and don't feel that naming a guy that has less to bring to the table than Bruce did would be very exciting. Despite all that, I'll support whoever gets the job, because that's what I have to do as a fan (unless it's Mooch, Sarachen, or Bradley - then I'll scream nepotism and be pissed...and even worse, bored).