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Karl Lagodzki
30 Jul 2002, 04:25 PM
Just curious. If DC want Gazza, they need an allocation, and they have reportedly had trouble getting it from Columbus. If we had the allocation, would they be willing to give up Convey for a chance to sign Gazza? Hmm....

Fanaddict
30 Jul 2002, 04:32 PM
I thought the MLS did away with the allocation system. I think all you need now is salary cap room and not to have 3 senior Internationals already.

HalaMadrid
30 Jul 2002, 04:38 PM
MLS never did away with the allocation system. It was merely zeroed out at the time of contraction so everyone started even again.

Also, DC does not need an allocation, they need a discovery signing slot.

Karl Lagodzki
30 Jul 2002, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by HalaMadrid
MLS never did away with the allocation system. It was merely zeroed out at the time of contraction so everyone started even again.

Also, DC does not need an allocation, they need a discovery signing slot.

Thanks.
Another question: Is the MLS going to publish an MLS/English, English/MLS dictionary?

Anyway, do we have what DC needs? (however you call it)

Fanaddict
30 Jul 2002, 04:47 PM
The system MLS has for distributing players is so ridiculously complicated, no wonder fans feel the're team is getting shafted.

IJS
30 Jul 2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by HalaMadrid
MLS never did away with the allocation system. It was merely zeroed out at the time of contraction so everyone started even again.

Also, DC does not need an allocation, they need a discovery signing slot. So Gazza would be signed as a discovery player. Well we all know about him, guess the BBSL missed out there !!

usa1950
31 Jul 2002, 10:26 AM
No way they give up Convey for the allocation/discovery slot that would become Gazza anyway.

Would you trade Kelley Gray for Gazza?
Beasley?
Curtin?

Any of our other young potential stars?

Of Course not.

Swampgas United
31 Jul 2002, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by HalaMadrid
MLS never did away with the allocation system. It was merely zeroed out at the time of contraction so everyone started even again.

Also, DC does not need an allocation, they need a discovery signing slot.


The allocations were not zeroed out, the teams due for allocations were given the first picks in the dispersal draft.

alf
31 Jul 2002, 01:18 PM
We already traded one discovery pick to Colorado I think and used our other one.

HalaMadrid
31 Jul 2002, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by Swampgas United
The allocations were not zeroed out, the teams due for allocations were given the first picks in the dispersal draft. Thus zeroing them out after the dispersement of the players from contraction.

Swampgas United
31 Jul 2002, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by HalaMadrid
Thus zeroing them out after the dispersement of the players from contraction.


No, they were used as draft picks in the dispersal draft. By saying "zeroing out" makes it seem that
no allocations took place. The fact is the allocations were used as picks in the draft.

HalaMadrid
01 Aug 2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Swampgas United
No, they were used as draft picks in the dispersal draft. By saying "zeroing out" makes it seem that
no allocations took place. The fact is the allocations were used as picks in the draft. Yes. In the dispersal draft, during the offseason. Then everyone had zero when the season began. Look, this is MLS' term, not mine.

Swampgas United
02 Aug 2002, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by HalaMadrid
Yes. In the dispersal draft, during the offseason. Then everyone had zero when the season began. Look, this is MLS' term, not mine.


I have seen the MLS use a lot of goofy terms but never that one. Even if it is a MLS term, it does not mean it is correct.

My orignal point was that your orignal post made it look like there was no allocations this year.

Jeremy Goodwin
02 Aug 2002, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Swampgas United



I have seen the MLS use a lot of goofy terms but never that one. Even if it is a MLS term, it does not mean it is correct.

My orignal point was that your orignal post made it look like there was no allocations this year. One way or the other, MLS told teams that they either used their allocations for draft picks or traded them for someone else to use. If they didn't use them, they would lose them.

In any case, there were 9 (count 'em (http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/mls0109dispersal.html)) allocations before the draft. There were 9 allocation picks made (http://www.mlsnet.com/special/draft/2002/dispersal/rd_a.html).

No one currently has any allocations.

At the end of the year, I expect that two teams will get you suck allocations. Probably any team that has a player sold out from under their nose will get an allocation for that during the season.

Swampgas United
02 Aug 2002, 12:56 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by HalaMadrid
[B]MLS never did away with the allocation system. It was merely zeroed out at the time of contraction so everyone started even again.

Allocations were used in the dispersal draft. The MLS never used the term "zeroed out" in the links that Jeremy just gave.

Liam, just go make a sign and everything will be better.