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Z010 Union
03 Aug 2006, 08:39 AM
There are several key decisions that should be made as a group, in person, but I wanted to create and sticky a thread that will contain pre-debate topics and ideas for the first Philadelphia Supporters Club.


Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?
Where should we sit?
Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?
Where/when should we meet?
Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?

Z010 Union
03 Aug 2006, 08:46 AM
Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?

No, lets come up with something regional and strong

Where should we sit?

Midfield

Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?

Depends, I think Sky Blue or Yellow/Maroon would look great, whether Milestone chooses those colors is the question

Where/when should we meet?

I think sooner rather than later, bar in Philly, is there one near Franklin Field?

Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?

I think we get active now, if nothing else to really get the songs and ideas going



I strongly favor 700 or 0700 as the name.

Sundevil9
03 Aug 2006, 09:22 AM
Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?

Yes, something regional is good, but should not be independent of the team. Otherwise it's just some regional supporters' group. There should be some sort of evolutionary process from the team to the supporters. (I've always thought that the ESC was a bad choice in this case)

Where should we sit?

Midfield - Across from TV cameras. To get the same positive impact that the DC groups get. Folks that are riding the fence about going to games will likely catch some on TV. Seeing the atmosphere will help. It's better than having it off in a corner/end - see Chicago.

Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?

Yes. Once again it should all play off of the team.

Where/when should we meet?

At or near the two stadium locations would be good. For one, folks will get an idea of the travel involved (for now and in the future). And besides, how many other groups have organized in a peach orchard?:p

Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?

Sooner is better than later. But then you can only really lay out broad ideas. Songs and chants would be generic until more specifics of a team are revealed.

SoccerPrime
03 Aug 2006, 09:51 AM
-Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?
My opinion is that unless a large group of people are passionate about a name now, I would wait so that the club name mirrors the team name.

-Where should we sit?
Midfield is best but goal tickets are cheapest. $600 vs. 400 per person.
Big difference, especially if you factor in families.

-Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?
Main color should always be the same as the teams. IMHO

-Where/when should we meet?
Organize now if you want to. Unless the team starts in 2009, the team will be in Philly. Somewhere close to FF is the smart choice.

-Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?
Why wait? MLS will come eventually ( :) )

Lobezno1
03 Aug 2006, 10:19 AM
Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?
I would like to have the name of the supporters group be tied to the name of the team, so I say we wait until we know the official name of the team to decide 100% on the name of the supporters group.

Where should we sit?
Midfield - Across from TV cameras, this would show the great atmosphere of going to the teams games and probably help get more people out to the games. The more support we get for the team, the more solid it becomes which will help ensure that we don't lose the team like K.C.

Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?
The Supporters Group main color SHOULD DEFINITELY be the club's PRIMARY COLORS!

Where/when should we meet?
As close to the stadium as possible...Parking Lot. This of course would be the days of the game, for other meetings, we can have those at a bar. We will have to decide where exactly that will be.

Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?
We can meet before the team comes to the area, but I think it's too early to start quite yet. Let's get 100% confirmation of when the team exactly will be starting to play whether it's 2007 or 2009. I think starting our meetings 3 months prior to the team coming would be fine, enough time to decide on songs and such.

Eddie26
03 Aug 2006, 12:29 PM
Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?
I personally don't like the supporters groups names who follow the team. Names like La Norte, LARS, ESC are good names and way better than the Midnight Riders or whatever that rediculous one that NE has.
Where should we sit?
Behind goal. Screw midfield. Midfield is not possible. I am standing the whole game and you can't do that in midfield. Behind the nets is the spot to be when your team is shooting on that goal in the second half with 10 mins left and down 1-0.
Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?
Same as the teams.
Where/when should we meet?
McFaddens in CBP on a day/night when the Phillies are away from home. The bar is open year round.
Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?
Now that way when it is announced, we've already mobilised and are ready to get active. Meet in person, layout goals for the group/s, ideas, etc.

SoccerPrime
03 Aug 2006, 12:48 PM
In respect to a supporters club name, I mentioned waiting for the team name IF there was no concensus on a name (which seems evident).

Call it Ben's Brigade or Cheesesteak SC now if you like. But from reading the many posts on this subject it seems there is no clear winner.

For instance Bryan76 is one of the most active guys in this subject, but when he mentions his 700 name, there are only a few who like the name.

Thats why I say wait for the team name, then you'll have something that everyone will probably agree with. Or at least tolerate.

For example, that is what they did in Salt Lake. All three big supporters clubs waited and then used the team's ReAl name (spanish for "royal") and picked their supporter club names accordingingly (Loyalists, Royal Cavaliers, Jesters).

ALSO
I am sure that once the first one forms, some ppl will have issues with it and form 3 or 4 others. So lets not over do it here.

Z010 Union
03 Aug 2006, 01:08 PM
I agree that since there is no unifying name, we should wait and until such time be the Philadelphia Supporters Club and get started on the bigger issues.

Rocky1869
03 Aug 2006, 03:15 PM
*Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?
i'd say wait that way it can be related to the team

*Where should we sit?
i'm a traditionalist. i like behind the goal, but midfield is alright, and so are multiple groups, like all the same group divided into philly, nj, and delaware factions.

*Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?
go the route of sam's army and have it be the third color. if the squad goes with sky blue and maroon, we should go yellow.

*Where/when should we meet?
the landmark in glassboro....get used to the ride and grab a tower. :D

*Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?
a little activity never hurt anyone, but i'm one that doesn't like to count my chickens before they hatch.

SoccerPrime
03 Aug 2006, 03:28 PM
*Where/when should we meet?
the landmark in glassboro....get used to the ride and grab a tower. :D

If the team starts in 2007, in Philly, it would be nuts to start the meetings down in Glassboro. Toronto FC fans don't meet at the construction site. Houston fans didn't hang out at Robertson Stadium. They met in pubs which were centrally located.

However, it would be cool if the supporters club(s) organized trips to watch Rowan Soccer on occassion before the Stadium is completed (and beyond).

jade1mls
03 Aug 2006, 03:30 PM
One word: Tifo

SoccerPrime
03 Aug 2006, 03:32 PM
One word: Tifo
Uh?

Can you use more than one word please?

jade1mls
03 Aug 2006, 03:33 PM
Uh?

Can you use more than one word please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tifo

SoccerPrime
03 Aug 2006, 03:51 PM
So you want the name of the Philly supporters club to be "supporter" in Italian...
Okay.

jade1mls
03 Aug 2006, 04:01 PM
So you want the name of the Philly supporters club to be "supporter" in Italian...
Okay.

This, my friend is Tifo. MLS Tifo but Tifo nonetheless



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/S8C03tifo.jpg
http://legion1908.net/Gallery/albums/Legionarios/4_legion.jpg
http://www.spitfirephoto.com/matchnight/image_dir/album105/md_DSC_3171.jpg
http://www.spitfirephoto.com/matchnight/image_dir/album90/md_DSC_2581.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/dcunited4life/match.jpg
http://www.mikeditkastreetcrew.com/images/Newsroom/D!%20News/SpruceGoose3.jpg
http://www.mikeditkastreetcrew.com/images/MilwaukeeFlares.JPG
http://section8chicago.com/images/archives/63.jpg
http://img149.echo.cx/img149/9025/45rr.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/rokstedy/Soccer/2006-04-01_Kickoff.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/stuntin909/Picture031.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c288/Desco95780/Gato.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/49/190985539_543b164f36.jpg

celt1997
03 Aug 2006, 04:03 PM
Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?
I would wait, because it should be somehow related to the team.

Where should we sit?
I prefer midfield, but I do know that is not a popular or viable option for all.

Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?
Primary color.

Where/when should we meet?
I really have no preference on this.

Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?
Certain things can get done now, especially laying the initial groundwork and details (such as what this thread is attempting to do). There's absolutely nothing wrong with starting early!

jade1mls
03 Aug 2006, 04:06 PM
Given philly's heavy italian population it would be a shame if philadelphia didn't have the best Tifo in the league.

for more tifo photos from abroad see http://www.tifonet.it

http://www.tifonet.it//fotousr2/19559_10062006122935.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Innocent-Hooliganism.jpg

FC Matt 90
03 Aug 2006, 04:20 PM
yo bryan, I was reading through the other philly mls threads and saw that you were liked the idea of "700" as the supporters group name, but that could easily be confused with the eagles and their "700" level fan group. instead of just leaving as 700, why not just add something to it like "Union 700" or "Tifo 700". just some suggestions i thought id throw out there.

jade1mls
03 Aug 2006, 04:51 PM
yo bryan, I was reading through the other philly mls threads and saw that you were liked the idea of "700" as the supporters group name, but that could easily be confused with the eagles and their "700" level fan group. instead of just leaving as 700, why not just add something to it like "Union 700" or "Tifo 700". just some suggestions i thought id throw out there.

Tifo700 would be meraviglioso !

Dills
03 Aug 2006, 05:23 PM
Given philly's heavy italian population it would be a shame if philadelphia didn't have the best Tifo in the league.
although it's exciting to think about what could be in terms of a supporters club, i think it's imperative to get a good foundation in order before anything begins, and that's the true purpose of this thread. a team's longevity in the league, and its relative success, will affect the size and "passion" of the supporters club. things may start out small, but that doesn't mean our actions and excitement towards the game and OUR team won't be infectous, bringing more supporters into the fold. that's when it can grow to that size.

Do we wait for a team name to name the supporters?
We would have to ... just because a team name is popular in the forums doesn't mean it would be what is chosen by Milestone.
Where should we sit?
Midfield (opposite the cameras) gets the club more TV time, and sees the field as a whole. An end gives the club more of a presence (and psychological influence) for the home team and against the opposition. I can see pros and cons for either, and I'm undecided for what it's worth.
Should our main color be the club's primary or secondary color?
Secondary, or even something complementary to the team's uniforms
Where/when should we meet?
Someplace at/near Penn's campus (because it's near FF), or centrally located to anyone/everyone interested in attending. After the summer and Labor Day (i.e. after vacations and whatnot) would be a good time to get together.
Should we get active now or wait until team comes to area?
Start with the basics now ... like creating a mission statement and figuring out what the goals/objectives of this club are. When the team arrives, the specifics of the club (name, colors, seating location, etc) can get ironed out.