View Full Version : Why doesn't Peter Reid purchase Landon for Sunderland?
Etchescary
30 Jul 2002, 03:48 PM
With Peter Reid's 9 million pound offer for Robbie Keane turned down why doesn't he purchase Landon Donovan? I am sure he can do a great job for Sunderland.
GoDC
30 Jul 2002, 03:54 PM
I have heard that Landon does not like bananas.
SoFla Metro
30 Jul 2002, 04:53 PM
He just doesn't like the way he looks in vertical red and white stripes.
geordienation
30 Jul 2002, 10:34 PM
http://www.toonarmyusa.com/images/Other/mackems.jpg
eric515
31 Jul 2002, 11:43 AM
Where is that picture from Geordienation??
And what movie is your signature from...that sounds so damn familiar.
Donovan at the Stadium of Light?? Geez, if they could have somehow picked up Sanneh, most Americans would have been hard pressed to not root for the Black Cats!
I think 9 Mill pounds (about $13 million) would shatter any record for an American. Considering Donovan's performance at the WC, that is not an unreasonable price for a proven international striker.
capt. america
31 Jul 2002, 12:35 PM
i love landon and all, and i believe that he has the POTENTIAL to be great, but he is no robbie keane. at least, not yet. i'd love to see him go though.
ShadowNC
31 Jul 2002, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by eric515
And what movie is your signature from...that sounds so damn familiar.
I think it's from Say Anything. Someone else on here uses another quote from that movie, the 'Power LLoyd' scene :)
eric515
31 Jul 2002, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by capt. america
i love landon and all, and i believe that he has the POTENTIAL to be great, but he is no robbie keane. at least, not yet. i'd love to see him go though.
Why is he not?? I know Keane played well for Leeds, but he wasn't their first choice at striker IIRC. I think this is the attitude that is still pervasive in most circles, though. It is still a prejudice against Yanks...even we fall prey to it.
Who is to say Donovan is not on par with Keane?? The only common ground we can compare them on is the WC, and Donovan's team went further and scored more goals, in many ways because of Donovan. He scored 2 goals in the WC, was responsible for an OG, and had several chances that were stuffed by and "out-of-his-mind" Kahn.
And isn't Donovan about 2 or 3 years younger than Keane??
I think he had a better overall WC than Keane, even though Keane had one of the more memorable moments.
SoFla Metro
31 Jul 2002, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by eric515
Why is he not?? I know Keane played well for Leeds, but he wasn't their first choice at striker IIRC. I think this is the attitude that is still pervasive in most circles, though. It is still a prejudice against Yanks...even we fall prey to it.
Who is to say Donovan is not on par with Keane?? The only common ground we can compare them on is the WC, and Donovan's team went further and scored more goals, in many ways because of Donovan. He scored 2 goals in the WC, was responsible for an OG, and had several chances that were stuffed by and "out-of-his-mind" Kahn.
And isn't Donovan about 2 or 3 years younger than Keane??
I think he had a better overall WC than Keane, even though Keane had one of the more memorable moments. Keane is better (for now).
Donovan will be a great player one day, but if I had to pick one of the two to play up front for me today, I'd pick Keane hands down.
capt. america
31 Jul 2002, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by eric515
Who is to say Donovan is not on par with Keane?? The only common ground we can compare them on is the WC, and Donovan's team went further and scored more goals, in many ways because of Donovan. He scored 2 goals in the WC, was responsible for an OG, and had several chances that were stuffed by and "out-of-his-mind" Kahn.
Keane has proved himself in EPL, Donovan has proved himself in MLS. not taking shots at MLS, but c'mon don't be silly.
fox point fury
31 Jul 2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by capt. america
Keane has proved himself in EPL, Donovan has proved himself in MLS. not taking shots at MLS, but c'mon don't be silly.
Kenae had 3 goals and 4 assists in 25 epl matches last year. I'd put my money on LD beating those numbers.
capt. america
31 Jul 2002, 06:30 PM
yeah a league so good, that robbie keane is your 3rd striker. the year before fowler showed up, keane played for inter and leeds. 18 games for leeds, 9 goals. i'm not dissing LD, but he's not as good as robbie keane. could he be? yes. could he be even better? yes. is he? not in my opinion
pookspur
03 Aug 2002, 02:47 PM
capt america is spot-on.
the things keane did at wolverhampton, alone, make for a more impressive resume than anything donovan's accomplished at the club level. not to mention that he was excellent at coventry in the prem before his time at inter and leeds.
this is not to rip donovan, who i rate very highly, indeed. but think of some of the strikers who have put up big season goal totals in mls, and you'll have to admit, strong form in mls does not automatically translate into goals in one of the best leagues in the world. and donovan certainly doesn't do himself any favours (in euro managers' eyes) by opting to remain a big fish in a small pond, rather than giving the bundesliga his best shot.
there is no way that peter reid, or any other prem manager, is going to rate ld anywhere near robbie keane when it comes time to break out the checkbook.
K.P.
03 Aug 2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by pookspur
there is no way that peter reid, or any other prem manager, is going to rate ld anywhere near robbie keane when it comes time to break out the checkbook.
But on the other hand, Landon wouldn't cost nine million pounds.
TravisMinor_23
04 Aug 2002, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by capt. america
Keane has proved himself in EPL, Donovan has proved himself in MLS. not taking shots at MLS, but c'mon don't be silly.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! What kind of EPL team is going to be foolish enough to throw money at an American after watching JMM flourish in Everton or Lewis tear it up at Fulham. Donovan needs to prove himself for a lower fee, and that sucks, but its the way it is. The MLS is not a proven feeder league into the EPL yet, the players who have made the jump have had mixed success at best. It is going to take a couple of players like Landon to go over there, score some goals, and establish that the MLS has something to offer before we can even dream of offers like 9 million pounds.
As to those for Donovan being an established striker? PLEASE. Two goals (one meaningless, one with the other team pushing for an equaliser) does NOT make an established striker. Nor does MLS success. I don't like it, you don't like it, but thats how the Europeans view it, and as long as we want their money we are going to have to play by their rules and impress them.
P.S. The MLS doesn't even own Donovan and in the few and far between statements out of Bayer it appears they have no interest in transfering him unless they get a stupidly large bid....
MadSirAlexxx
04 Aug 2002, 04:39 AM
lack of funds...Bayer not willing to sell..Reid seemingly clueless on the tranfer market...doesn't pair well with Niall...(...insert reason here...)
irishFS1921
04 Aug 2002, 04:57 AM
despite the numbers or WC performance i'd take keane over donovan any day.
Mason16
04 Aug 2002, 10:55 AM
Blah blah blah is what all of the MLS-EPL comparisons are worth at this point. LD proved on the international stage that he can score and be a threat. Maybe he's not worth $13mm but he can surely help sunderland, this I have no doubts about since his performance on the international stage against the best competition. 2 goals, an OG and several dangerous chances. It's crystal clear to all but the most jaded that he can play and be effective in any league in the world.
pookspur
05 Aug 2002, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Mason16
It's crystal clear to all but the most jaded that he can play and be effective in any league in the world.
included among the most jaded, then, must be bayer leverkusen, who hold his contract.
eric515
05 Aug 2002, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by pookspur
included among the most jaded, then, must be bayer leverkusen, who hold his contract.
Well, except for the fact that Bayer is fighting tooth and nail to get Bobblehead back b4 next season...
And anyone who compares LD to JMM and Lewis is comitting the cliche of "comparing apples and oranges". We are talking about a 20 yo who scored twice at this WC, and made Kahn work for his money, not 30+ JMM or an unfairly benched Lewis.
Saying LD isn't worth it because of what they did is like saying that every player in Trinidad And Tobago deserves alot of money because of Dwight Yorke, or every Costa Rican because of Wanchope. Get real.