Javier Aguirre (tecnico) at Atletico Madrid. [R]

[guado]

why is there no thread on javier aguirre?

anyways, aguirre is taking over a talented underperforming team. last year they finished tenth, with 50 points.

this, after leading the overachieving osasuna to a tie for fourth place(68 points), and a champions league birth. they play hamburg in the last qualifying round.

atletico has 12 players coming in , the most important being aguero, pernia, seitaridis and costinha. the only major loss is contra (which is debateable.)

he also wants ludovic delporte and raul garcia to go with him from osasuna.

el niño is staying, saying he has confidence in aguirre

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/football/07/25/spain.torres/index.html?section=cnn_latest

[Necaxista]

He added pretty average players, except for aguero and pernia. Costihna seitardis mista and co, are past their time, Ive heard maniche could go to atletico because they need a playmaker, someone who can make the plays.
Unfortunately, I think aguirre will get fired by the end of the campaign, atletico is one of the teams who doesnt have much patience, Osasuna had nothing to lose and they took a chance.

[mopey04]

with the team he has this year they should do much better i like el nino very loyal to he's team

[fdp]

There is a thread here somewhere.

I may be several pages back since they haven't played in awhile.

I will see if I can revive it and close this one.

[fdp]

I just remembered that he is no longer at Osasuna.

I'll go ahead and make this his new official Atletico Madrid thread.

[guado]

I just remembered that he is no longer at Osasuna.

I'll go ahead and make this his new official Atletico Madrid thread.

thank you fdp.


He added pretty average players, except for aguero and pernia. Costihna seitardis mista and co, are past their time, Ive heard maniche could go to atletico because they need a playmaker, someone who can make the plays.
Unfortunately, I think aguirre will get fired by the end of the campaign, atletico is one of the teams who doesnt have much patience, Osasuna had nothing to lose and they took a chance.


gil y gil is gone, he died.

most of the players are nothing special, but he had a a decent team to begin with.

costinha is past his prime, but he still has at least this year left in him (hopefully.)

seitaridis over th hill?

he's 25.

did you watch euro 2004?

mista isn't so much washed up as he had only one good year, in which valencia thought they had found a 20 goal a year striker.

too bad his name is villa, and came two years later.

playmaker wise, you have a point, but maniche wouldn't fix that, he's more of a defensvie midfielder.

they have good forwards, but no real playmaker. that's tough one right there.....

i don't think he'll get fired by season's end though.

ii hope he also qualifies for a european cup.

[Necaxista]

Hmm, i thought seitardis was 30..
But did he really need pernia? He didnt need to upgrade over A. Lopez
Does he need mista? Hes not playing over aguero or torres.
He blows money on players he didnt really need over priorities like tim borowski or pablo aimar.
I doubt he makes champions, probably uefa, but atleti and their fans like to see their team as a top 4 (Barsa, Real Madrid, Valencia first 3). They expect to finish on top, and if aguirre doesnt get at least 6th, I think hell get dumped.

[panda loca 87]

do you guys think that in a couple of year aguire would coach the national team again?

[El Dude Malacopa]

do you guys think that in a couple of year aguire would coach the national team again?

Never again.

[panda loca 87]

i understand. that was a stupid question. but he is a good coach.i hope he does good in spain

[guado]

Hmm, i thought seitardis was 30..
But did he really need pernia? He didnt need to upgrade over A. Lopez
Does he need mista? Hes not playing over aguero or torres.
He blows money on players he didnt really need over priorities like tim borowski or pablo aimar.
I doubt he makes champions, probably uefa, but atleti and their fans like to see their team as a top 4 (Barsa, Real Madrid, Valencia first 3). They expect to finish on top, and if aguirre doesnt get at least 6th, I think hell get dumped.

i don't think most of the purchases were aguirre's decisions. some were already signed before he came in.

bringing in raul garcia would be though.

pernia is a stud. depending on your point of view, he's an upgrade. dude's a killer scoring defender.

lopez is more than solid. but i think he'll be gone before the season ends.

either that, or aguirre would figure some way of using both of them effectively. (hopefully)


mista is a mystery. he had one good year. they don't need more forwards.

i see some leaving in january.

i get a feeling the first half is going to be more challenging than the second.

aguirre is going to need to restore some balance (too many forwards, need a good playmaker.) if he does , he'll get a european cup spot.

[txiki]

do you guys think that in a couple of year aguire would coach the national team again?
well even though he's at aleti he should be a candidate to take over mexico, him and Hugo Sanchez.....even though I don't like the fact that he didn't got a single mexican to play at his team, that sucks.......

[metalmaster]

well even though he's at aleti he should be a candidate to take over mexico, him and Hugo Sanchez.....even though I don't like the fact that he didn't got a single mexican to play at his team, that sucks.......


He will never coach the N.T again, that's what he said. As far as Mexican players, he didn't have much luck last time he took some players. He knows how the Mexican player think and how over priced they are.

[txiki]

He will never coach the N.T again, that's what he said. As far as Mexican players, he didn't have much luck last time he took some players. He knows how the Mexican player think and how over priced they are.

But I also remember him saying that it would be really hard to say no to mexico, and about the mexicans players remember who he took, vidrio and ochoa I mean come on they suck(ochoa not as much as vidrio) and about them being overpriced don't tell me that aguero wasn't........

[guado]

But I also remember him saying that it would be really hard to say no to mexico, and about the mexicans players remember who he took, vidrio and ochoa I mean come on they suck(ochoa not as much as vidrio) and about them being overpriced don't tell me that aguero wasn't........

aguirre didn't have many people to choose from.

he was going to osasuna

osasuna. a small navarran club.

he wasn't taking any overpriced mexican players over there.

so he took one of his buddies (vidrio) and a guy who he had a lot of hope for (ochoa.) neither one worked out.

of course they'll pay more for aguero. he plays in a league that sends players to europe in bunches to clubs of all stature.

also, look at the way he played at independiente... and that was as a 17 year old.

not only that, atletico had to outbid liverpool and bayern (- i still don't think that either team offered that much, but then again, valencia bought aimar for 20 million from river, so it is possible.)

aguirre probably doesn't have much say right now transfer-wise, since he is a new coach. wait until he shows good results.

you shouldn't hold the fact that he has no mexicans against him. first off, he doesn't have to,it's not exactly his duty. secondly, it wasn't going to happen at osasuna. thirdly, with the lack of prestige the mexican league has and the high price tags, it's the same story (mostly, except for this summer.)

[smartbomb]

Torres, Agüero y Galletti sellan la victoria del Atlético ante el Kashima (1-3) (http://www.clubatleticodemadrid.com/es/atleticoaldia/noticias.asp?id=17536)

[smartbomb]

When a team has wings that can run to the middle and play as interiores, I don't see why you "need" a playmaker.

[Rebaño_Sagrado]

When a team has wings that can run to the middle and play as interiores, I don't see why you "need" a playmaker.
That is what Lavolpe said.

[smartbomb]

Erm, a 5-3-2 doesnt have wings (volantes laterales). It has defensas laterales

What I said, works on a 4-4-2, but probably not on a 5-3-2.

[guado]

When a team has wings that can run to the middle and play as interiores, I don't see why you "need" a playmaker.

if it works, sure.

he'll probably have to play that way, and mix in ibagaza a little as the playmaker.


who knows. maybe ibagaza will have a break out year feeding all the forwards atletico has.