Transfer Thread #5 2006

[Dead Fingers]

Please continue

and to keep us in a bad mood. :p

Bayern make admission over Ruud (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/5230850.stm)

[AllReD]

10.2Mill is more than they wanted to pay for a world class striker. I know hes 30 but that is dirt cheap for a player of his caliber.

LMAO is all i can do right about now.

Why dont we just close this whole transfer thread, because if 10.2 is too much for bayern to sign a 1A star, then who and what are we going to sign in the near future.

:mad:

[Dead Fingers]

LOL..we are not going to close the transfer thread just because Bayern have a bad transfer policy. Besides, we can always speculate about others for the future, even if nothing happens during this transfer window. :)

[FCBerken]

if 10.2 is too much for bayern to sign a 1A star, then who and what are we going to sign in the near future.
its 10.2 million pounds, but i agree with you, that is peanuts for a player like RvN. the reason they didnt make a highre bid was probably the fact that they dont really need another striker.

[SoftTackle]

To put it in perspective, ManU paid £18.6m for Carrick who I'd rate below Hargreaves and DeMichellis at least in the holding midfield department. Clearly we are no longer in the top 8 clubs in Europe as we either cannot or choose not to compete with clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal, ManU, Liverpool, AC Milan, Inter, Juve, Barcelona, and Real Madrid in transfer fees. Deppressing, but maybe a rising Bundesliga tide will lift all ships.

[vinontop]

And aimar is gone to Zaragoza , whot man !! he was the player we needed.We shud have got him ,he hasn't gomw for much money i think .

[Duncan Idaho]

Carrick for 27 Mio Euro to Manu shows how empty the market actually is concerning quality mifielders. Carrick isn't even worth half the sum, but the huge demand for quality midfielders and the small to non-existent offer of quality midfielders are rising the prices.

It is more and more funny that Aimar is named here, one of the most often points about our midfielders is that they are either critized for being inconsistent or being injury-prone, so why is Aimar proposed so often? Isn't injury-prone as well? And what about consistency concerning Aimar? :rolleyes:

[Dr.Phil]

Well I say we go after Viera until he gets out of our price range :)

[ForeverRed]

Well I say we go after Viera until he gets out of our price range :)

not what we need...

Juve also said no more players are leaving the club

[BMike86]

can someone tell me why we go after Ruud, and Hamburg goes after Saviola?? Saviola is a much younger player and is a solid argentinian. if we really needed a striker that bad we could of easily gotten Saviola for the price we put up on the table for the aging Ruud. If not we could of spent less, but I think Bayern was foolishly going to use Ruud moreso for his name, than his play on the pitch. Because even though he is a great player, he has had a fallout with his NT coach and Club coach. So he would almost appear to eventually just be a cancer to the club. I'm glad we didn't get him, but I think we could still use a fricken midfielder

[ForeverRed]

can someone tell me why we go after Ruud, and Hamburg goes after Saviola?? Saviola is a much younger player and is a solid argentinian. if we really needed a striker that bad we could of easily gotten Saviola for the price we put up on the table for the aging Ruud. If not we could of spent less, but I think Bayern was foolishly going to use Ruud moreso for his name, than his play on the pitch. Because even though he is a great player, he has had a fallout with his NT coach and Club coach. So he would almost appear to eventually just be a cancer to the club. I'm glad we didn't get him, but I think we could still use a fricken midfielder

Of course its for the name, someone needs to fill the gap that Ballack left in merchandising and sales.

Podolski is a good new buy but not the name that Ballack was and Ruud would be.

[BMike86]

Of course its for the name, someone needs to fill the gap that Ballack left in merchandising and sales.

Podolski is a good new buy but not the name that Ballack was and Ruud would be.

because there are much better players from the Italian fallout that we could easily afford with our bid we made for Ruud. that amount could just about pick up any player in that italian fallout. i'm glad Real Madrid outbid us because it would have been a throw away on money for a face and a name

[Dead Fingers]

I think the whole RvN was a matter of chance/opportunity. They obviously are not 100% convinced of our striking force, which I don't think any of us really are. The circumstance came about and they thought they could upgrade. Depsite his age, Ruud has a few years left in him and personally, he would have done just fine in the Bundesliga. Now...if we has not spent the amount on Van Buyton that we did, this would not have been the worst of moves. To me, the Van Buyton trade was the one that was bad. And this is strictly in financial terms...as I think he will do fine on the field.

[BMike86]

I think the whole RvN was a matter of chance/opportunity. They obviously are not 100% convinced of our striking force, which I don't think any of us really are. The circumstance came about and they thought they could upgrade. Depsite his age, Ruud has a few years left in him and personally, he would have done just fine in the Bundesliga. Now...if we has not spent the amount on Van Buyton that we did, this would not have been the worst of moves. To me, the Van Buyton trade was the one that was bad. And this is strictly in financial terms...as I think he will do fine on the field.

I wish we could of gotten Van der Vaart or Sneijder before Van Buyten to help fill the void left in the attacking mid role. But if Hamburg drops off a little and a club like Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen, Stuttgart, etc. have a good year and finish above Hamburg we could actually probably realistically get Van der Vaart next summer. Hamburg still has to make it to the CL this year which is what Van der Vaart wants, if they don't make it that could even add more to his case of leaving, no CL this year and no CL next if they finish 4th or worse

[Duncan Idaho]

because there are much better players from the Italian fallout that we could easily afford with our bid we made for Ruud. that amount could just about pick up any player in that italian fallout. i'm glad Real Madrid outbid us because it would have been a throw away on money for a face and a name

players from Italy easily affordable? Guys stop dreaming! Bayern can't pay those players without going financially harakiri. Why? Well, you should not forget that there is always some (better lots of) additional money which goes directly to a player for signing besides the transfer fee. In Germany that money is called "Handgeld". Furthermore the players in Germany have to pay higher taxes than those in Italy consequently Bayern has to pay them more money brutto that they get the same amount netto like in Italy. That's the simply reason for having no transfer culture between Germany and Italy

to the Saviola topic: I've already said after that RvN case went down the toilet that Bayern could have gone for Berbatov if they wanted a striker so desperately. Would have been much easier signing him and much better in terms of perspective. But Bayern only wanted to do that bargain RvN transfer not specifically a striker transfer. Saviola himself is just a name - and not even a great one - and not an outstanding player, so he won't help us

[Dead Fingers]

I wish we could of gotten Van der Vaart or Sneijder before Van Buyten to help fill the void left in the attacking mid role. But if Hamburg drops off a little and a club like Dortmund, Schalke, Leverkusen, Stuttgart, etc. have a good year and finish above Hamburg we could actually probably realistically get Van der Vaart next summer. Hamburg still has to make it to the CL this year which is what Van der Vaart wants, if they don't make it that could even add more to his case of leaving, no CL this year and no CL next if they finish 4th or worse


Well, I don't mind that we went for another CB, but for what we paid, that is what is absurd. It affected what else we did in the transfer market. Yes, we do now have a shortage of midfielders, but I there is no way we get Van der Vaart. I just don't seeing him leaving Hamburg, regardless of how they do...ok, if they get relegated then maybe. ;) :p

[BMike86]

Well, I don't mind that we went for another CB, but for what we paid, that is what is absurd. It affected what else we did in the transfer market. Yes, we do now have a shortage of midfielders, but I there is no way we get Van der Vaart. I just don't seeing him leaving Hamburg, regardless of how they do...ok, if they get relegated then maybe. ;) :p

so should we all start cheering for Aachen, Bochum, etc. :p

I still would like to see Bayern get Sneijder, which is almost impossible for some reason. But then there would be no need for Van der Vaart then. I prefer Sneijder over him anyways

[Dead Fingers]

so should we all start cheering for Aachen, Bochum, etc. :p


Ah hell...why not? :D

[SirManchester]

so should we all start cheering for Aachen, Bochum, etc. :p

I still would like to see Bayern get Sneijder, which is almost impossible for some reason. But then there would be no need for Van der Vaart then. I prefer Sneijder over him anyways

ok, Sneijder it is, now how are we going to convince managment he's a grea addition to the club?

[Duncan Idaho]

Sneijder had a poor WC and an average season in Holland, so it does not surprise that there was no rumor concerning a Bayern move. Since he extended his contract signing him next season could be possible. But don't forget no every player wants to go to Munich ;)

The other Dutch (vdV) has an exit clause about 1,5 Mio in his contract for 09/10. Since he is playing in the Bundesliga he could be an obvious move for one of the next two seasons depending on what the HSV can achieve during this two seasons ;)

Another obvious move could be Barnetta, watch out for him this season :cool:

Well, I opened my book a bit :p