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Ruud
30 Jul 2002, 12:25 PM
Top ten

1 EPL
2 LA LIGA
3 SERIE A
4 BUNDESLIGA
5 TURKEY DIV 1
6 FRANCE DIV 1
7 DUTCH DIV 1
8 PORTUGAL DIV 1
9 GREEK VID 1
10 J-LEAGUE

calcioplaya
30 Jul 2002, 12:39 PM
How can u forget the Argentinian league where teams like River Plate and Boca Juniors roam, clearly one of the top leagues in the world.

Mobile
30 Jul 2002, 12:40 PM
I'd rate La Liga higher than the Premiership personally.

GringoTex
30 Jul 2002, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Ruud
Top ten leagues in Europe



Fixed your post.

Mobile
30 Jul 2002, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by GringoTex


Fixed your post.

I don't think the J-Lague is in Europe. And Turkey isn't really either, although a member of UEFA.

Elninho
30 Jul 2002, 01:36 PM
The Greek league is no better than the SPL. Apart from Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, and Iraklis, the league is quite poor. Turkey is similar - Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are great teams, but many clubs are hardly worth watching.

1. Spain
2. England
3. Germany
4. Italy
5. Netherlands
6. France
7. Argentina
8. Brazil
9. Portugal
10. Turkey

RutgerB
30 Jul 2002, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Elninho
The Greek league is no better than the SPL. Apart from Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, and Iraklis, the league is quite poor. Turkey is similar - Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are great teams, but many clubs are hardly worth watching.

1. Spain
2. England
3. Germany
4. Italy
5. Netherlands
6. France
7. Argentina
8. Brazil
9. Portugal
10. Turkey
No thats a good top ten :)
Close the thread we got the top ten in the right order now :D

BenReilly
30 Jul 2002, 02:49 PM
Surely MLS is in the top two or three.

Crazy_Yank
30 Jul 2002, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by BenReilly
Surely MLS is in the top two or three.


I'm assuming (hoping) you mean that in jest :D

BenReilly
30 Jul 2002, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Crazy_Yank



I'm assuming (hoping) you mean that in jest :D

Nope, I'm serious. MLS is #1. It's the only league where you can find true passion.

Leto
30 Jul 2002, 07:17 PM
No, really.........are you just messing?

BenReilly
30 Jul 2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Leto
No, really.........are you just messing?

Leto, if you ever have the opportunity to go to a Wizards match, you will learn the true meaning of football passion. As someone who has been to over 50 European matches, I can say nothing compares with MLS. Someday, Europeans will learn how to truly appreciate the beautiful game.

nowhere
30 Jul 2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by BenReilly


Leto, if you ever have the opportunity to go to a Wizards match, you will learn the true meaning of football passion. As someone who has been to over 50 European matches, I can say nothing compares with MLS. Someday, Europeans will learn how to truly appreciate the beautiful game.
hehe. He's speaks the truth. Listen to him.

Signature - I'm a cheap bastard

glove
30 Jul 2002, 08:19 PM
I love futbol and I have not been to any matches outside of the US, but tune into FSW and watch Argentian clubs, their fans are rabid. The MLS has a long way to go. I go to games with boat horn and scream till Iam hoarse. Most people around me could pass for dead. I wish we had an awesome league but right now there is only potential no raving success in the stands or on the field. When you see Americans at MLS games filling up stadia and hear them chanting in unison,not hearing coach telling left back to push forward into attack on TV will be the day you can list us in the top 10. No hate just being realistic.

soccernutter
30 Jul 2002, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by BenReilly


Leto, if you ever have the opportunity to go to a Wizards match, you will learn the true meaning of football passion. As someone who has been to over 50 European matches, I can say nothing compares with MLS. Someday, Europeans will learn how to truly appreciate the beautiful game.

ROFLMAO!!! The Wiz. hahahahahahaha...

But back to the fun part...

In order:

1. England
2. Germany
3. Spain
4. Italy
5. Argentina
6. Brazil
7. France
8. Holland
9. Portugal
10. Mexico

But this is for excitement. England, simply because of added cup play. Germany for the parady. But, if adding outside factors, I would eliminate Argentina (the influence of hooligans) and Brazil (the accepted financial irregularies). In place I would add J-League and MLS, in order, at the bottom.

BenReilly
30 Jul 2002, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by glove
I love futbol and I have not been to any matches outside of the US, but tune into FSW and watch Argentian clubs, their fans are rabid. The MLS has a long way to go. I go to games with boat horn and scream till Iam hoarse. Most people around me could pass for dead. I wish we had an awesome league but right now there is only potential no raving success in the stands or on the field. When you see Americans at MLS games filling up stadia and hear them chanting in unison,not hearing coach telling left back to push forward into attack on TV will be the day you can list us in the top 10. No hate just being realistic.

You've obviously never been to a Wizards match. The passion is overwhelming.

Spartak
30 Jul 2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by BenReilly
Surely MLS is in the top two or three.
Maybe in North America.

BenReilly
30 Jul 2002, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Spartak

Maybe in North America.

We're defintely #1 in the world. The "MLS Cup" should be changed to "World Champions Cup" I'd love to see the Wizards win another world championship.

Preston North End
30 Jul 2002, 09:33 PM
1. Spain
2. England
3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France
6. Netherlands
7. Brazil
8. Turkey
9. Argentina
10. Greece

Anyone who says MLS is not a legit 1st Division (top-flight) league is wrong. Sure the top six or so sides in ESP, ENG, ITA, and GER are better (no MLS club could win the title), but after that MLS sides can hold their own.

MLS sides probably couldn't win the league in the other six above, but could challenge for a spot in Europe (most definitely the UEFA Cup and in some cases the Champions' League) or the Libertadores Cup.

I would rate the MFL and MLS in the top 20 for sure. Based on recent Champions' Cup play (CONCACAF) I would rate MFL better than MLS, with the leagues in CRC, HON, GUA, and ELS rounding out the top six in our region.

Spartak
30 Jul 2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Preston North End
Anyone who says MLS is not a legit 1st Division (top-flight) league is wrong. Sure the top six or so sides in ESP, ENG, ITA, and GER are better (no MLS club could win the title), but after that MLS sides can hold their own.

MLS sides probably couldn't win the league in the other six above, but could challenge for a spot in Europe (most definitely the UEFA Cup and in some cases the Champions' League) or the Libertadores Cup.

I don't think a MLS side could survive one of the top 4 leagues in the world (Germany, Italy, Spain, and England). Which MLS side is better than Fiorentina, Real Zaragoza, Real Betis, Atletico Madrid, Ipswich, or Man City? All of these sides were either relegated or promoted to the top flight. You have to realize that MLS only has an 18 man roster and that would severely hurt them in a long grueling season in europe. Even the worst clubs in europe are much deeper than MLS sides.