Would Klinsmann pick Dooley as an assistant?

[Scotty]

Just wondering about the possibility of Klinsi picking Thomas Dooley as an assistant coach if he were to accept the U.S. job.

Here's why:


Dooley has his German coaching license and some experience coaching in the lower German divisions.
Dooley is familiar with U.S. Soccer.
Both come from the same country/culture and are relatively close in age (Klinsmann is 3 years older).
Both share the same language, as well as being fluent in English.
Both reside in Southern California.


Has anyone heard this being mentioned anywhere? Thoughts?

[Scotty]

Wouldn't normally bump my own thread, but this one took some time to get approved and then lost in the shuffle. So....

Bump.

[westsidepunk]

Just wondering about the possibility of Klinsi picking Thomas Dooley as an assistant coach if he were to accept the U.S. job.

Here's why:


Dooley has his German coaching license and some experience coaching in the lower German divisions.
Dooley is familiar with U.S. Soccer.
Both come from the same country/culture and are relatively close in age (Klinsmann is 3 years older).
Both share the same language, as well as being fluent in English.
Both reside in Southern California.


Has anyone heard this being mentioned anywhere? Thoughts?
You give some pretty compelling arguments for why but I don't think anything has been mentioned yet. It is still a bit premature for possible assistants to be leaking out when we haven't even had the manager announced yet. But if Klinsi were chosen there might be some logic to bringing Dooley on.

[Tigerpunk]

You give some pretty compelling arguments for why but I don't think anything has been mentioned yet. It is still a bit premature for possible assistants to be leaking out when we haven't even had the manager announced yet. But if Klinsi were chosen there might be some logic to bringing Dooley on.

Well Klinsmann's primary assistant will be a major Xs and Ox sort of guy, but I can see Dooley being a second assistant.

[Mark424]

I have tried to mostly erase France 98 from my mind, but wasn't it Klinsmann who scored the second goal against us by jumping over Dooley? Too long ago and painful to remember ...

I would be nice if Klinsmann were our next manager ... even better if he did choose Thomas.

Here is a link to his Youth Club that he runs in the O.C.

http://www.ockings.us/index.asp

[St. Patrick]

Could see it happening within the framework of Schmid being lead assistant and Dooley the second.

[falvo]

Could see it happening within the framework of Schmid being lead assistant and Dooley the second.
To tell you the truth, even if they can't get Klinsman it wouldn't be far from reality that they won't consider Sigi Schmid as head coach and Thomas Dooley as his assistant. I really wonder if Klinsman wants the job? I mean he keeps saying he doesn't but when they say that they usually end up taking it.

[Scotty]

I have tried to mostly erase France 98 from my mind, but wasn't it Klinsmann who scored the second goal against us by jumping over Dooley? Too long ago and painful to remember ...



Yep. Dooley got smoked on Klinsi's goal.

Doesn't mean they can't be friends, though. :)

[galperin]

Again, anything that involves Fat Sigi and the Nats is utterly obsurd.

Now, regarding Klinsi bringing in Thomas Dooley...why not? This might be a great fit for the reasons Scotty mentioned. If Klinsi really wanted to bring in an American assistant, which would definately be a good idea IMHO, then perhaps Wynalda or Harkes, or Bradley would be nice options. ANYONE, and I do mean ANYONE is better than Fat Sigi.

[Casper]

It's not clear to me that Klinsmann and Dooley even know each other particularly well. Maybe they have. But I imagine if Klinsmann plans to choose a German assistant, it will be someone with whom he has already worked, and not just the bets German/American option available. Dooley brings plenty to the table, but your arguments aren't going to be persuasive to Klinsmann himself - he knows US Soccer well enough, they are plenty of English-speaking options for assistants, and he probably doesn't care where his assistants live.

[falvo]

It's not clear to me that Klinsmann and Dooley even know each other particularly well. Maybe they have. But I imagine if Klinsmann plans to choose a German assistant, it will be someone with whom he has already worked, and not just the bets German/American option available. Dooley brings plenty to the table, but your arguments aren't going to be persuasive to Klinsmann himself - he knows US Soccer well enough, they are plenty of English-speaking options for assistants, and he probably doesn't care where his assistants live.
Klinsmann speaks better English than Dooley

[bltleo]

if Klinsi is USMNT coach (and he is still not), he will choise german assistent:)

[Sandon Mibut]

Klinsmann speaks better English than DooleyThis is true. Sad, but true.

Though, I've spoken with Dooley and you can certainly understand him and conversations with him, it's just accented, heavily.

[Scotty]

This is true. Sad, but true.

Though, I've spoken with Dooley and you can certainly understand him and conversations with him, it's just accented, heavily.

That's probably because Klinsmann learned English in school.

On the other hand, when Dooley came to play for the U.S. he was already 30 years old and couldn't speak a word of English. Actually, I once read him say that he had "cheeseburger" and "please" in his vocabulary. But at the time that was it!

[JoeW]

1. Dooley was a big fan of Lothar Mattheus and his leadership style. Jurgen Klinsmann and Mattheus mostly bumped heads all the time. Doesn't mean that Dooley and Klinsmann are on the outs but to speculate that they'd work together (assuming Klinsmann were USMNT coach) b/c they're both Bundesliga players who have ties to America assumes that Klinsmann has no contacts in the USA, no other resources in the Bundesliga (or his tie with Spurs or Monaco), and sees Dooley as filling a really critical need.

Look, I like Thomas Dooley but this doesn't happen b/c they both have MLS/US ties. It happens ONLY if Klinsmann sees Dooley as bringing some special insight (like a tactical expertise) that he can't get elsewhere.

[Dr.Phil]

It's not clear to me that Klinsmann and Dooley even know each other particularly well. Maybe they have. But I imagine if Klinsmann plans to choose a German assistant, it will be someone with whom he has already worked, and not just the bets German/American option available. Dooley brings plenty to the table, but your arguments aren't going to be persuasive to Klinsmann himself - he knows US Soccer well enough, they are plenty of English-speaking options for assistants, and he probably doesn't care where his assistants live.

Actually they do know each other
Thomas got Klins to move out hear

[Klecko]

Supposing that Klinsmann gets hired, I'm actually starting to warm to the idea of having a Euro-based assistant/scout.

For that matter, no matter WHO is the head coach, I think there would be good reason to have an assistant that was based out of Europe. This, if for no other reason than to have a "set of eyes" on the YA based in Europe. This way, the national team coach can have a direct basis for capping some as-yet unknown player with a US passport. In addition, this Euro-based assistant could help in "recruiting" those players that might have more than one international option.

EDIT: In the 21st Century, is it REALLY necessary to have the coaching staff all based domestically? What with teleconferencing, the internet, and other technologies, why not have a coach "stationed" where many of the players are playing?

[Elninho]

Supposing that Klinsmann gets hired, I'm actually starting to warm to the idea of having a Euro-based assistant/scout.

For that matter, no matter WHO is the head coach, I think there would be good reason to have an assistant that was based out of Europe. This, if for no other reason than to have a "set of eyes" on the YA based in Europe. This way, the national team coach can have a direct basis for capping some as-yet unknown player with a US passport. In addition, this Euro-based assistant could help in "recruiting" those players that might have more than one international option.

EDIT: In the 21st Century, is it REALLY necessary to have the coaching staff all based domestically? What with teleconferencing, the internet, and other technologies, why not have a coach "stationed" where many of the players are playing?

That's an intriguing idea. Especially with more and more Americans heading over the pond. It seems to me that Earnie Stewart, being currently based in the Netherlands, could fill this role pretty well. He's well placed to keep tabs on the younger YA now playing in the Netherlands (Nguyen and Bradley as well as DMB), and it's not hard for him to travel to keep tabs on the English/German-based players either. And what about David Regis, who was last seen being pulled out of retirement to play (for a club coached by a friend, apparently) in the Belgian fourth division? As much as the latter is maligned for being a "mercenary", one image of him that sticks in my mind is being the first player to leave the bench to congratulate Donovan on the goal that iced the Mexico game despite having not played a minute in the 2002 World Cup.

[Monarch Bay Beachbum]

This is true. Sad, but true.

Though, I've spoken with Dooley and you can certainly understand him and conversations with him, it's just accented, heavily.


Maybe it has been a while since you spoke with him. His English is very good and his accent is slight.

[Scotty]

Here's how Dooley currently occupies his time:

http://www.ockings.us/