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ElRoss425
17 Jul 2006, 03:34 AM
All I know about him is that he:

1. Was a great player
2. Somewhat knows about the European professional system from being in it
3. Has been involved, to some extent, with youth soccer in the US
4. Has coached less than 10 international games for Germany and was successful, but it was perhaps the easiest coaching gig on the planet(b/c they were playing in Germany)

Is this a resume of a guy that should be running the entire USMNT program? I'm not so sure.

TheWindmill
17 Jul 2006, 06:00 AM
All I know about him is that he:

1. Was a great player
2. Somewhat knows about the European professional system from being in it
3. Has been involved, to some extent, with youth soccer in the US
4. Has coached less than 10 international games for Germany and was successful, but it was perhaps the easiest coaching gig on the planet(b/c they were playing in Germany)

Is this a resume of a guy that should be running the entire USMNT program? I'm not so sure.

10? Where did you get that number. He has been Germany coach for 2 years and has coached far more games then 10. Further, he succesfully changed the German playing style into a more offensive style which has turned out te be more attractive too watch. Don't forget that th whole lot in Germany critisized him. They didn't like it in Germany that he came with USA fitness trainers, a psychologist and he did everything in US style, something they didn't like in Germany. After seeing World Cup matches it turns out that Klinsi changed the boring German team in an atractive team and he got the maximum result out of the team.

I think he could be great for the US national team. He has proven to make a team better and he's respected all over the world+ he's a cool person an a big fan of the US.
Far more better than a tactical nobody like Bruce Arena.

The Beautiful Frame
17 Jul 2006, 06:31 AM
but it was perhaps the easiest coaching gig on the planet(b/c they were playing in Germany)

You clearly don't have the slightest clue.

bltleo
17 Jul 2006, 06:38 AM
. After seeing World Cup matches it turns out that Klinsi changed the boring German team in an atractive team and he got the maximum result out of the team.

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german soccer was NEVER boring:). Remember german soccer in 70s (Kaiser era) or in early 1990 (we won the world cup with our "boring" soccer) and European cup in 1996. And with our "boring" soccer we were second in last world cup. German soccer has long history. IN sport it is normal that team has some up and downs. But if you look at history of world cups you will see that Germany belong to the most successful teams considering our performance in whole world cups.

Of course Klinsi has "change" german soccer and introduced new attacking style, in new positive style. It is different style from style in 70s or early 90´s.

Klinsi said about German soccer following:
"One of the most important things that we have achieved in the last two years is that we have seen players grow that have an enormous potential.

"We should not be afraid for what is coming up for Germany in the future.

"We have all the reasons to be optimistic and confident about our football prospects.

"Quite a few German players have made a name for themselves at the World Cup and attracted the attention of major football clubs around the world."

Germany was successful in this world cup because of both excellent coach and excellent team.!.

I´m not worry about future of german football (soccer) after Klinsmann era. The world is looking at us again. Many have respect of this young german team.

Klinsi is fresh, innovative coach with a lot of enthusiasm and optimism, excellent motivator. This is what makes him to special coach.

bltleo
17 Jul 2006, 07:59 AM
Juergen Klinsmann, Germany' is extraordinary manager who can motivate, full of enthusiasm and optimism. He has done away with Germany's traditional 3-5-2 formation. He has choosen
a 4-4-2 system with a diamond formation in midfield. Everything revolves around speed of attack. This is "new german way".

Klinsmann always believed German football needs to be quicker. This is "new Klinsi style".

Also remember that current German team has new young and fresh players. This team worked like family, had perfect chemistry. This is why this team was so successful this world cup. Germany surely offered very attractive soccer this world cup and we have great future.

SamsArmySam
17 Jul 2006, 08:11 AM
If you ask the question the other way around, you'll see why people are so interested in JK as the next US manager: First, what are our key requirements? Then, who best fills those, given the available candidates?

Needs (my best guess at US Soccer priorities):
1. Familiarity with the US talent pool.
2. Understanding of difficulties of CONCACAF qualifying.
3. International level tactical understanding.
4. Relationships (at least credibility) with club managers of our Euro players.
5. World recognized as quality international manager.
6. Attack minded playing style.
7. Speaks English.

JK has
1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. Yes

Pretty good fit.

Soccernethost
17 Jul 2006, 08:15 AM
But his resume as a coach includes only SEVEN meaningful matches.

bltleo
17 Jul 2006, 08:23 AM
But his resume as a coach includes only SEVEN meaningful matches.

you forgot CONFEDERATION Cup 2005 when Germany finished as 3rd:). Klinsi´s resume is more than just 7 meaningful matches:)

After Confed Cup Klinsi said:
"Our emphasis is on attack and we will stick by this policy."

Germany were the tournament's top scorers netting 15 goals in their five Confederations Cup matches to finish third.

Maximum Optimal
17 Jul 2006, 11:27 AM
If you ask the question the other way around, you'll see why people are so interested in JK as the next US manager: First, what are our key requirements? Then, who best fills those, given the available candidates?

Needs (my best guess at US Soccer priorities):
1. Familiarity with the US talent pool.
2. Understanding of difficulties of CONCACAF qualifying.
3. International level tactical understanding.
4. Relationships (at least credibility) with club managers of our Euro players.
5. World recognized as quality international manager.
6. Attack minded playing style.
7. Speaks English.

JK has
1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. Yes

Pretty good fit.

I think #3 is a maybe. They started the tournament (remember the Costa Rica game) playing in a rather naive way on defense. The key adjustment that solidified the midfield apparently came from Ballack. Klinsmann deserves some credit here for willingness to listen. Once Germany started playing quality sides (Argentina and Italy) they looked overmatched.

My hope is that the USSF gives whoever is hired as the head coach the funds to hire a very experienced #2, someone who has proven himself as a tactician. It is ok to hire someone like Klinsmann who is mainly a manager and motivator as long as he has that kind of #2.

Soccernethost
17 Jul 2006, 11:29 AM
Seven, twelve -- no difference. He has virtually no experience or track record as a head coach.

In other words...I don't believe that hand picking the best players from a soccer powerhouse like Germany and playing a World Cup at home proves you can coach.

CbR
17 Jul 2006, 11:43 AM
Seven, twelve -- no difference. He has virtually no experience or track record as a head coach.

In other words...I don't believe that hand picking the best players from a soccer powerhouse like Germany and playing a World Cup at home proves you can coach.

true but there arent many alternatives out there. I'd love to have Hiddink,Jose, or Lippi but that aint happening.

i think Jurgen is the perfect guy to carry us into the "post reyna" generation era.

art
17 Jul 2006, 11:45 AM
I love what Klinsmann said about his philosophy...he believes in winning by being more creative than the other guy, not by packing it in and grinding it out. Plus he seems like a very quick learner and a guy with some freah ideas. I personally dont want a Hiddink or a Parriera if they're just going to come in with set ways and an all- x's and o's mentality and no flexibility and ironclad "philosophy" that may or may not fit the players or their potential. Bruce Arena was a great coach but got very stale towards the end. We shoudnt start out with another stale manager who has nothing new to bring to the table, which is why I really dont support a Bradley or a Sarachan.

Klinsmann sounds good to me. Of course all this is very premature as he hasnt said he wants the job.

bwach
17 Jul 2006, 11:58 AM
Seven, twelve -- no difference. He has virtually no experience or track record as a head coach.

In other words...I don't believe that hand picking the best players from a soccer powerhouse like Germany and playing a World Cup at home proves you can coach.

He had enough experience for the DFB to annoit him the coach to lead them through a World Cup they were hosting, and good enough for them to stick with him while he lived in California.

I think he's got enough experience for the USMNT. It is not his resume that is lacking.

Li mu bei
17 Jul 2006, 12:55 PM
http://www.klinsmann.us/career.htm

bltleo
17 Jul 2006, 01:08 PM
I think #3 is a maybe. They started the tournament (remember the Costa Rica game) playing in a rather naive way on defense. The key adjustment that solidified the midfield apparently came from Ballack. Klinsmann deserves some credit here for willingness to listen. Once Germany started playing quality sides (Argentina and Italy) they looked overmatched.

My hope is that the USSF gives whoever is hired as the head coach the funds to hire a very experienced #2, someone who has proven himself as a tactician. It is ok to hire someone like Klinsmann who is mainly a manager and motivator as long as he has that kind of #2.

Yes this is true. It was Ballack who made a note to play more defensively. I remember his "criticizm" on Klinsi after Italy friendly game when we lost 4:1.
Also his assistent Löw was not really assistent, but he was responsible for tactic. Klinsi was more manager, motivator, the engine of this team. I would say players, coach, assistent, manager (Bierhoff) all worked perfect together. It was example of excellent team work. Everyone Ballack as captain, Löw as his assistent, Klinsi, Bierhoff, Lehmann, Kahn - all contributed in his way to success of german team.

Klinsi said about Löw:
“He has a lot more tactical knowledge than me and I rely on him completely,” Klinsmann said.

the next advantage of Klinsmann is that he was not afraid of changes, new reforms in german soccer and he did not listen to criticizm from the press or from some experts from Bundesliga. He did it in his way:
this is what Klinsi said in 2004 after he started to be coach of Germany:
Klinsmann: "We Germans are always ready for reforms, but when it comes to changes, it gets to be a little bit uncomfortable, because we're forced to depart from our daily routine," Klinsmann said.

source: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,1395932,00.html

bltleo
17 Jul 2006, 01:58 PM
also very good article: Klinsmann´s principle

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2094107,00.html

Klinsmann said:
"It was the most beautiful World Cup ever. We've created a new image of the Germans around the world," the 41-year-old said.

and for me is Klinsi the best coach forever:).

But as Klinsi said it was not just his success, but success of whole team.

There is no guarantee that he can repeat this success with USMNT if he decide to coach US team. USMNT has another types of player and also another soccer culture and atmosphere in the country.

After winning 3rd place in the world cup Klinsi said:
It's impossible to put into words what happened here this evening. You can't top that," Klinsmann told a press conference after the game.

"The fans were fantastic, and the team played like men possessed." He said. "I'll need a few days to let all this sink in and fully comprehend the extent of what we managed to achieve"

source:
http://worldcup.filbalad.com/english/News.asp?NewsID=25610

I think to coach USMNT would be a bit different because both teams are so different.