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w-inds.
15 Jul 2006, 10:00 AM
will be pure South American tournament

and every teams vs oppoents 2 times

MoRado
15 Jul 2006, 12:19 PM
Copa America will never be replaced.

Caturro
15 Jul 2006, 02:14 PM
Why are CONCACAF people trying to change our tournaments? :(

dcsundevil2002
16 Jul 2006, 01:13 AM
Why are CONCACAF people trying to change our tournaments? :(

Because we have nothing better to do. :)

Because we would like to see a tournament that is called the America's Cup, to have more teams from the America's in it?

Because our soccer federation has been stupid for th elast several years and said no to a chance to play in an international tournament that could provide a great proving ground for prepping our guys for the World Cup, and now said soccer federation has woken up from its slumber and now wants to see if it can get into the Copa. However, from where we all sit, Costa Rica has filled the spot that would be our's. So rather than bully the Tico's out of the spot that would be our's, we are suggesting expanding the tournament, so we can play with you all and you all take have us spend more money down there.

I think that covers it pretty well.

Argentine Futbol
16 Jul 2006, 12:00 PM
That's just great!!! Add more mediocrity.. How about St. kitts? I'm already sick to death about having the Mexicans down here. let's add the USA with landon donovan and there ridiculous fans..go to your own region..

dcsundevil2002
16 Jul 2006, 12:03 PM
That's just great!!! Add more mediocrity.. How about St. kitts? I'm already sick to death about having the Mexicans down here. let's add the USA with landon donovan and there ridiculous fans..go to your own region..

The stop inviting us and the Mexicans.

Argentine Futbol
16 Jul 2006, 12:05 PM
Then stop inviting us and the Mexicans.

If only most true South american futbol fans had their way.

chileann redded
16 Jul 2006, 04:19 PM
ohh man, south american qualifiers are the best!!! how lucky we the south americans are to watch these qualifiers, copa america is nothing compared to south american qualifiers, even parreira once said " i don't have a doubt that south american qualifiers are harder than a w.c" cafu also said that once.
copa america is played by u-17 south american teams
south american w.c qualifiers are played with all the super stars from south america who play in europe

copa america will never again would have that prestigious it had back in 1991, until the tournament become again 100% southamerican.

lfsr1544
17 Jul 2006, 04:13 PM
ohh man, south american qualifiers are the best!!! how lucky we the south americans are to watch these qualifiers, copa america is nothing compared to south american qualifiers, even parreira once said " i don't have a doubt that south american qualifiers are harder than a w.c" cafu also said that once.
copa america is played by u-17 south american teams
south american w.c qualifiers are played with all the super stars from south america who play in europe

copa america will never again would have that prestigious it had back in 1991, until the tournament become again 100% southamerican.

what r u numb....?

Mind you, not all the top players play in CA due to their club duties, but overall it's still playd with the top MEN currently playing in Latin America clubs. Meaning, Argnetina might not be sending Crespo, but they may send 1/4 best players from Boca Jrs; 1/4 best from River' 1/4 best from Independiente/Velez and so on... these guys are still solid.

jlscrub
17 Jul 2006, 06:01 PM
what r u numb....?

Mind you, not all the top players play in CA due to their club duties, but overall it's still playd with the top MEN currently playing in Latin America clubs. Meaning, Argnetina might not be sending Crespo, but they may send 1/4 best players from Boca Jrs; 1/4 best from River' 1/4 best from Independiente/Velez and so on... these guys are still solid.

I was at the CA in Lima last year and saw the Arg-Brasil match...

Argentina brought...

1 ABBONDANZIERI Roberto
2 AYALA Roberto
3 SORÍN Juan Pablo
4 QUIROGA Facundo
5 MASCHERANO Javier
6 HEINZE Gabriel
7 SAVIOLA Javier
8 ZANETTI Javier
9 FIGUEROA Luciano
10 D´ALESSANDRO Andrés
11 TEVEZ Carlos
12 CAVALLERO Pablo
13 PLACENTE Diego
14 RODRÍGUEZ Clemente
15 FERNÁNDEZ Leandro
16 GONZÁLEZ Luis
17 GONZÁLEZ Mariano
18 GONZÁLEZ Cristian
19 DELGADO César
20 MEDINA Nicolas
21 ROSALES Mauro
22 COLOCCINI Fabricio

of which 9/11 players on the field were starters of the Argentina NT at this years WC

hardly an u-17 squad wouldnt you say...;)

Brasil really did bring a B-team... The only players that were also at the WC were Adriano and Juan.

lfsr1544
19 Jul 2006, 04:53 PM
I was at the CA in Lima last year and saw the Arg-Brasil match...

Argentina brought...

1 ABBONDANZIERI Roberto
2 AYALA Roberto
3 SORÍN Juan Pablo
4 QUIROGA Facundo
5 MASCHERANO Javier
6 HEINZE Gabriel
7 SAVIOLA Javier
8 ZANETTI Javier
9 FIGUEROA Luciano
10 D´ALESSANDRO Andrés
11 TEVEZ Carlos
12 CAVALLERO Pablo
13 PLACENTE Diego
14 RODRÍGUEZ Clemente
15 FERNÁNDEZ Leandro
16 GONZÁLEZ Luis
17 GONZÁLEZ Mariano
18 GONZÁLEZ Cristian
19 DELGADO César
20 MEDINA Nicolas
21 ROSALES Mauro
22 COLOCCINI Fabricio

of which 9/11 players on the field were starters of the Argentina NT at this years WC

hardly an u-17 squad wouldnt you say...;)



Brasil really did bring a B-team... The only players that were also at the WC were Adriano and Juan.

Didnt they also have Robinho and Diego??

Popol Vuh
19 Jul 2006, 04:58 PM
I was at the CA in Lima last year and saw the Arg-Brasil match...

Argentina brought...

1 ABBONDANZIERI Roberto
2 AYALA Roberto
3 SORÍN Juan Pablo
4 QUIROGA Facundo
5 MASCHERANO Javier
6 HEINZE Gabriel
7 SAVIOLA Javier
8 ZANETTI Javier
9 FIGUEROA Luciano
10 D´ALESSANDRO Andrés
11 TEVEZ Carlos
12 CAVALLERO Pablo
13 PLACENTE Diego
14 RODRÍGUEZ Clemente
15 FERNÁNDEZ Leandro
16 GONZÁLEZ Luis
17 GONZÁLEZ Mariano
18 GONZÁLEZ Cristian
19 DELGADO César
20 MEDINA Nicolas
21 ROSALES Mauro
22 COLOCCINI Fabricio

of which 9/11 players on the field were starters of the Argentina NT at this years WC

hardly an u-17 squad wouldnt you say...;)

Brasil really did bring a B-team... The only players that were also at the WC were Adriano and Juan.
You forgot Pablo Aimar, I remember him wearing #10 in this tournament.

locoxriver
19 Jul 2006, 05:05 PM
Didnt they also have Robinho and Diego??
Yeah, they were.. And players like Luisao, Cris, and Julio Cesar were also there. Sure, they didn't get to play in this World Cup, but they were still in the list of 23 players there.

SankaCofie
19 Jul 2006, 05:17 PM
I love the South American qualifiers. They're scary as hell because a team really does need luck to qualify. There are too many talented teams fighting over only 4 spots and except for Argentina it usually does come down to the last 2 or 3 games.

Copa America is fine as it is. Invite the Mexicans. Invite the US. Costa Rica. Jamaica. Japan.

Whoever.

Zitor
20 Jul 2006, 08:14 AM
IMO Copa America is sanctioned by CONMEBOL, all royalties goes to that confederation. WCQ's royalties goes to FIFA.

Goofy
20 Jul 2006, 12:14 PM
Fine.
No more mexico & other guest, big deal. but corona, telmex and the other mex sponsors & tv interest leave too. Let the tournament go back when cameramen aimed at the pitch and the sponsors were Tome Pin y Haga Pun and Santa Clota y Santa Clira.
Jabon Sussio No Lava.
Santa Clota Tres Tiritones.
Fine.

Visca...
20 Jul 2006, 02:38 PM
Fine.
No more mexico & other guest, big deal. but corona, telmex and the other mex sponsors & tv interest leave too. Let the tournament go back when cameramen aimed at the pitch and the sponsors were Tome Pin y Haga Pun...

I love that drink. I used to have it at Bar "El Tufo" all the time. :p

Goofy
20 Jul 2006, 02:45 PM
I love that drink. I used to have it at Bar "El Tufo" all the time. :p

They also had it at EL Pollo Farsante...

btw... DId you know that EL CUMPEO actually DOES exist?

Dominican Lou
20 Jul 2006, 02:53 PM
will be pure South American tournament

and every teams vs oppoents 2 times
They're not going to just do away with an 80 year old tournament just because.

And it wouldn't be smart business either. Eliminate games = eliminate profit.

Dominican Lou
20 Jul 2006, 03:01 PM
ohh man, south american qualifiers are the best!!! how lucky we the south americans are to watch these qualifiers, copa america is nothing compared to south american qualifiers, even parreira once said " i don't have a doubt that south american qualifiers are harder than a w.c" cafu also said that once.
copa america is played by u-17 south american teams
south american w.c qualifiers are played with all the super stars from south america who play in europe

copa america will never again would have that prestigious it had back in 1991, until the tournament become again 100% southamerican.
This is true.

The qualifers combine the intensity of a Copa Libertadores with the quality of a World Cup. Everyone brings their best players and everyone goes all out.

I kinda wish Concacaf would join our qualifers just so they can see their mighty Mex & US, who they think are above everyone except Arg & Brazil, get stomped by all the "little teams"