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footyfan1
25 Jan 2007, 05:25 AM
not true....i was a BVB fan way before Smolarek donned the yellow and black colors....
for your info - BVB sparked my interest when Flemming Povlsen was running up and down on the flank for BVB in early 90's....and thanks for playing, buddy

My apologies for the alliegance comments. I was dead wrong. Sorry. No excuses.

As far as your snide remarks go, well, I'd tell you about them, but Cris' post after yours said things perfectly.



whether Ebi missed sitters or not is not the point....the point is that Valdez has 0 goals this season.....now doesn't that directly affect BVB's standings?

No. Because in match changing situations, Valdez isn't the one missing sitters. Valdez has mainly been the guy freeing up the dude who's been missing the sitters.

That's been Frei. The thing that saves Frei much of the harsh criticism that he deserves is that he at least has some goals.

I'm not going to lie and say I'm not angry that Valdez hasn't scored yet. I'm mad as hell. But he's also doing other things to help this team and the others aren't helping him out.

That's the boat I also think Ebi is in this season. He's doing his part, but the others are failing him. Especially Frei and Valdez.

However, remember, YOU originally brought up the comparison to last season.

And the thing you continue to conveniently ignore, that I once laid out for you case by case, is that Smolarek continously missed sitters that cost the team matches that would have put them in the UEFA Cup.

Valdez has done no such thing yet. Valdez has missed a couple, sure, but Frei is the one missing far more of those sitters in match changing situations.

What seems to gall you the most is that I still think Valdez is the better overall player between he and Ebi. I still stand by that. Ebi is poaching better so far, but as far as overall team play, Valdez has him beaten by a country mile.

The one place where we do agree is that we didn't pay 4.5M for a setup man. We paid 4.5M for a f#cking goal scorer.

Here's what I said on our e-mail list about Valdez last night after posting an article stating Valdez still has the backing of the BVB management:


"Of course they have to back him. They paid about 2M too much for him.

If he doesn't come through, they look like asses.

Not that that is hard to do anyhow......

We thought Buckley would score a goal and catch fire too. It was easy to dump him because he only cost 425,000.

Buckley was a good gamble only because of the price. Easy to cut him loose. Great move.

If he doesn't score, the same is not so with Valdez.

Valdez had better f#cking come through.

Of course. Not as harsh as I was on Smolarek last season. But we're not to that point of futility yet. When or if he gets there, he'll get his.........

He's just not there yet. Of course, for you, he is. They are going to be keeping your guy on the bench for him when Valdez is totally healthy.

I don't agree with that move and I've said so.

Perhaps Ebi will score on Friday and keep Valdez' ass on the bench. But other than that, I think despite all the praise Valdez is getting from BVB management, the only f#cking reason Valdez will eventually take over from Smolarek is so BVB management can try to keep themselves from looking like asses for paying 4.5M for Valdez.

Yeah, I was all for getting the guy (But not at 4.5 or even 4M) and playing him ahead of Ebi based on last season. But look back and you will see that I also said they were paying too much for him.

Yeah, I said I would not be happy if Ebi Smolarek was in BVB's starting lineup in Munich at the start of the season. I had damned good reason for that and even Ebi knew why the team went out and bought two new starting strikers. But instead of bitching and moaning, it took two matches, but Ebi went out and played better than both of them.

That's the guy I was waiting to see. That's the guy I want to see now.

And that's the guy I think BVB management are going to screw for two reasons:

1) Again, they have to play Valdez and hope he starts scoring. Otherwise, they look like asses for spending 4.5M on him.

2) I still believe Watzke wants to rid this team of anything "BvM" or "old regime". I think he's plotting to let Metzelder walk and cry that he could not match other offers and I think they are going to try to get rid of Smolarek because he's a "BvM Guy".

Just how long before Watzke wants to get rid of Dede???? :(

HeyaBVB
30 Jan 2007, 09:02 PM
If nothing changes we have our zero goal strikers tomorrow ...

footyfan1
31 Jan 2007, 04:13 AM
If nothing changes we have our zero goal strikers tomorrow ...

Not according to the club's website. The website says:


1) Frei will most likely play.

2) Even if Frei doesn't play, Ricken will most likely be used before Amoah.

russ99
05 Feb 2007, 04:44 PM
That's the guy I was waiting to see. That's the guy I want to see now.

And that's the guy I think BVB management are going to screw for two reasons:

1) Again, they have to play Valdez and hope he starts scoring. Otherwise, they look like asses for spending 4.5M on him.

2) I still believe Watzke wants to rid this team of anything "BvM" or "old regime". I think he's plotting to let Metzelder walk and cry that he could not match other offers and I think they are going to try to get rid of Smolarek because he's a "BvM Guy".

Just how long before Watzke wants to get rid of Dede???? :(

Sorry to jump a little off topic here, but there's some rumblings that the Chicago Fire may be interested in acquiring Ebi Smolarek. I know there's lots of ridiculous and unfounded MLS rumors out there since Beckham signed with LA, but this one seems a bit more plausable than the others. (Like Figo, Ronaldo, Davids, etc.)

He's a bit out of their league, and I can see Ebi wanting a lot more wages than they can offer, but the Fire are looking hard at Polish internationals, since they have big Polish community support (Chicago has the largest Polish population outside of Warsaw) and a good past history with Polish players, such as Nowak and Podrobzny. Word is they might consider using the Beckham-like DP spot for him when the summer window opens.

Have you heard anything about this in Germany?

footyfan1
05 Feb 2007, 05:11 PM
Sorry to jump a little off topic here, but there's some rumblings that the Chicago Fire may be interested in acquiring Ebi Smolarek. I know there's lots of ridiculous and unfounded MLS rumors out there since Beckham signed with LA, but this one seems a bit more plausable than the others. (Like Figo, Ronaldo, Davids, etc.)

He's a bit out of their league, and I can see Ebi wanting a lot more wages than they can offer, but the Fire are looking hard at Polish internationals, since they have big Polish community support (Chicago has the largest Polish population outside of Warsaw) and a good past history with Polish players, such as Nowak and Podrobzny. Word is they might consider using the Beckham-like DP spot for him when the summer window opens.

Have you heard anything about this in Germany?


"Lemons" reported this in the transfer thread a week or so ago too. I've seen not one word about it in Germany. The transfer window is closed now anyhow.

Gunning4Chelsea
06 Feb 2007, 12:59 PM
"Lemons" reported this in the transfer thread a week or so ago too. I've seen not one word about it in Germany. The transfer window is closed now anyhow.


Smolarek is not going to go overseas for football at this stage in his career....(maybe at 32) he wants to play in CL (top flight football at least) and for the Polish national team....if he goes overseas - both of these options will be closed for him.
i have been reading those reports as well in the Trib (chicago tribune)....it seems that MLS is just sparking these rumors to garner more attention for the league and the beckham signing....

footyfan1
06 Feb 2007, 01:02 PM
Smolarek is not going to go overseas for football at this stage in his career....(maybe at 32) he wants to play in CL (top flight football at least) and for the Polish national team....if he goes overseas - both of these options will be closed for him.
i have been reading those reports as well in the Trib (chicago tribune)....it seems that MLS is just sparking these rumors to garner more attention for the league and the beckham signing....


That's what I thought too. Plus, I think BVB management are starting to realize they paid 4.5M for a piece of shit in Valdez, so they aren't going to let Smolarek go anytime soon.

This is a f#ckin' 180 from last season, but I have to say that getting Smolarek back on the pitch with Frei might be our only chance to get anything done this season at the striker position......

footyfan1
14 Feb 2007, 03:26 AM
wow....i cant believe we are having this discussion (BVB possibly being relegated)



Well, yes, the way they are looking and playing, it is getting time to have this discussion.

After all, even the players have acknowledged that now, they are in the relegation battle......

footyfan1
14 Feb 2007, 04:41 AM
Don't even f#cking joke like that. A year in the 2. Liga would be financially disasterous for us. We probably would not recover.

just preparing myself psychologically...


No need to. We will be in the relegation battle, but we will not be relegated.

jonam
19 Feb 2007, 04:46 PM
With this win we stayed away from relegation battle. It is not so much the number of points to the 16th spot but there are so many teams bhind us. That really looks like 3 boring months in the middle of nowhere.

footyfan1
19 Feb 2007, 05:48 PM
With this win we stayed away from relegation battle. It is not so much the number of points to the 16th spot but there are so many teams bhind us. That really looks like 3 boring months in the middle of nowhere.


Shit. This team is so up and down, the last thing they will be is boring.

And I don't think this win over Gladbach means much. The team, save for Frei and Metzelder, did not impress me one f#cking bit.

I don't think they did that "well" at all. I just think Gladbach were worse.

BTW, "kicker" reports that there is FINALLY some criticism of Zorc going on in Dortmund!!

ZORC RAUS!! ZORC RAUS!! ZORC RAUS!!!!

footyfan1
20 Feb 2007, 07:03 AM
At the moment there are strange things happening at BVB. Zorc's position might be at stake. Michael Rummenige might take over....or even Thomas von Heesen could be our next sporting manager.



Hell yeah! I don't know a damned thing about Michael Rummenegge, I just know I want Zorc's f#cking sorry ass GONE!!!

I'd rather ask the following people, but, hell, with even von Heesen taking over, who did that job at Bielefeld before he became coach there, I WANT ZORC GONE!!!!


My Wish List For Zorc Replacements:

Kalle Riedle: Holds the same position with Grasshoppers Zurich right now.

Stefan Reuter: Holds the same position with 1860 Muenchen right now and is under fire from their fans for not being able to hold on to young striker talent Nicky Adler, who I wanted for BVB before FCN scarfed him up. Turns out FCN has been scouting him for at least a year. Probably more.

von Heesen: Like I said, did the job with Bielefeld before becoming their coach.

Jurgen Kohler: Had the position at Leverkusen for a short time.

jonam
27 Feb 2007, 04:01 PM
I would love to see TvH as sporting director. I could even live with Stefan Reuter.

footyfan1
27 Feb 2007, 04:18 PM
I would love to see TvH as sporting director. I could even live with Stefan Reuter.


Same here, but since we had that conversation here, I have a new top candidate. At least for me.

I want Ilya Kaenzig. The former Leverkusen and Hannover executive.......

jonam
27 Feb 2007, 04:36 PM
I don't think Kaenzig has the power and personality to put his ideas through. Despite his nice network of scouts all over the world.

footyfan1
27 Feb 2007, 04:41 PM
I don't think Kaenzig has the power and personality to put his ideas through. Despite his nice network of scouts all over the world.


The "power and personality"? What are you talking about? If the guy has the position, that in itself should give him the authority.

Who is going to challenge him??

What "power and personality" does Michael Zorc have?

jonam
27 Feb 2007, 05:36 PM
Kaenzig had the position in Hannover but wasn't able to put his ideas past Kind. A nice guy, but not tough enough for this job.

footyfan1
28 Feb 2007, 03:22 AM
Kaenzig had the position in Hannover but wasn't able to put his ideas past Kind. A nice guy, but not tough enough for this job.


Where's our "Kind?" Watzke?? Watzke is going to busy enough trying to keep the fans from lynching him and Zorc when this season goes completely to shit.

You don't give a guy a job and then sabotage him every step of the way.

Watzke won't hire him if he isn't going to let the guy do the job and I don't think Kaenzig would stay if Watzke hired him and didn't let him do his job.

F#ck the Hannover situation. You can point to that and I'll point to his YEARS at Leverkusen and their years since he left.

If he isn't "tough enough", how did he work all those freakin' years with Calmund??

I think it's because it isn't about being "tough". It's about having a good working relationship with your leadership.

He had it with Calmund, he didn't have it with Kind.

Simple as that.

It's not about being "tough enough", it's about being GOOD ENOUGH and Kaenzig is plenty good enough.

Right now, Hannover is succeeding with talent Kaenzig found. Wait until some of that talent gets away......

They will be sorry.

This conversation is probably moot anyhow. I don't think Rauball and Watzke are smart enough to fire Zorc and hire a guy like Kaenzig.

jonam
28 Feb 2007, 03:49 AM
Oh, come on. In Leverkusen Calmund was the man, the sporting director with absolute power. And still Calmund and his assistant Kaenzig needed ridiculous amounts of cash to put a team together. Hell, their salary bill in 2001/02 was even higher than ours.

And whether he is good enough as the number one director? Just your opinion, I haven't seen anything of him yet.

footyfan1
28 Feb 2007, 04:23 AM
Oh, come on. In Leverkusen Calmund was the man, the sporting director with absolute power. And still Calmund and his assistant Kaenzig needed ridiculous amounts of cash to put a team together. Hell, their salary bill in 2001/02 was even higher than ours.

And whether he is good enough as the number one director? Just your opinion, I haven't seen anything of him yet.

Come on man. We both know that while Calmund was the man who made the decisions, Kaenzig was the one who went out and got them most of the talents they got.

Kaenzig laid the groundwork behind the scenes and that's what we need right now.

We are not a "top club" who just needs a little work. We need to re-establish the entire foundation we once had. We've gotten away from it for far too long.

We can't afford to make a few purchases and be "right back in the game". We need to build from the ground up again.

We have nice layers of that foundation already. But we need to stengthen it before he can build upwards.

That is what Kaenzig can do.

Yes, everything I said is just my opinion.

Sure, Reuter has more practical experience with 1860 and he would be my second choice.

And he might be readily available since it seems quite a few of the 1860 fans want to run him out of there because they don't like to face the reality that no manager can keep young talents with no money and no upward sporting prospects.


However, most of the talents 1860 are using, they already had on hand. You slam Kaenzig's lack of experience, but where's Reuter's experience at going out and finding talents to build or re-build a club? He didn't have to do it at 1860. Most of them were already there.

Where's Kohler's experience at doing that?

Let's get away from the guys we are talking about and ask the big question.

Where is Michael Rummenegge's experience at doing that??

Do you like talents like Huszti and Rosenthal? Who found them?

You're using 2001/2002 to slam a guy when everyone who could was spending money back then.

I usually buy into mostly everything you say, but that's pretty weak man.

Exactly how much did he spend at Hannover? How much did Huszti cost them??

How much did VALDEZ cost us???

Come on man. If you just prefer the others, that's fine. Hell, I think you're right when you say that Kaenzig has never been "in charge".

Let me ask you something.

When has Zorc ever been "in charge??"