Make the call.

[usatowin]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4C1dLut_XmU&search=soccer

Note: Tripping includes an attempt to trip.

Bad quality, but you get enough viewed on full screen. All you need is the first 5 seconds, but the rest is amusing.

[Wahoo]

Quick question.... when did this play happen?
I only ask because I can think of a few things in this video that need to be addressed.

You're asking about simulation so I'll vote on that...
But what about the backpass to the keeper and how he picks it up and then the punt from the keeper entering the net without touching another player.

[usatowin]

Quick question.... when did this play happen?
I only ask because I can think of a few things in this video that need to be addressed.

You're asking about simulation so I'll vote on that...
But what about the backpass to the keeper and how he picks it up and then the punt from the keeper entering the net without touching another player.

Random pull. Added to the site 12/2005. Judging by team and ref uniforms, it's really old. Probably an early USISL game (Umbro logo on sign board).

Looks like the keeper's first touch is a parry, which is never called even though it should be. Was that even a factor before the passback rule?

It's hard on this angle, but after about 100 views, I'm going with a trip. The better chance to dive was when he was still going to the right. If the ref's sprinting in just off the camera and left as he should be, that would make it harder to see. It would also be easier for him to put himself over the opponent's leg. Next, when they come together. He's made a quick turn and it looks like the defender is putting his right leg right where the attcker's right leg needs to go. Hard to see for sure how much he put it out, but the next part sells it for me. Attacker leaps over and falls, but makes no attempt to sell it. He hops up and plays. Doesn't roll, doesn't clutch it, doesn't look at the ref, jumps straight when a trip/dive usually would put you to one side. The only thing I'm convinced of is it's not nothing. Without a better view, I'll say I'm pretty sure it's not a dive, and all that leaves is a trip.

I should have been clearer and put attempting to trip.

[Statesman]

When you trip, you fall down. You do not go up first then down.

The player had no passing lanes or paths towards goal, so he cut over and jumped. He is drawing the foul, trying to get a free kick in a good spot in what otherwise is a dead attack. If it was further from goal I would ignore the dive, but in this case might consider a caution. It really depends on the temperature of the game and what transpired up to that point. But, from a textbook perspective and ignoring the intangibles, I vote for a dive and caution.

[USSF REF]

Well it was clear that the player was trying to dribble sideways and then...

HE IS ATTACKED BY A GIGANTIC PIXEL :eek:

The video ate up the attackers run.

I can't tell anything from this video.

[Ref Flunkie]

Well it was clear that the player was trying to dribble sideways and then...

HE IS ATTACKED BY A GIGANTIC PIXEL :eek:

The video ate up the attackers run.

I can't tell anything from this video.

Same, he goes down, no idea if he is trying to jump over the leg or simulate. Nice punted goal though!

[bluedevils]

Same, he goes down, no idea if he is trying to jump over the leg or simulate. Nice punted goal though!

Agreed, can't tell if he is trying to jump over leg or simulate. I'm leaning toward trying to jump over the leg, based just on a single viewing of the clip. His body language did not say 'dive' to me while he was in the air.

Great goal!

[chrisrun]

When you trip, you fall down. You do not go up first then down.

When you don't see the trip coming, you fall down. When you see it coming, you might try to jump over it, yet still get tripped. I can't tell from this video if that is what happened, but I don't agree with this blanket statement about tripping.

[HoldenMan]

You can't possibly tell from this video. The best you can hope to achieve is an academic discussion - but the same discussion has been held numerous times.

I am convinced there should've been an IFK against the keeper, though.

[refmike]

Holden,

This clip is from a game about 10-20 years ago. At that time the keeper could parry the ball and then pick it up and the passback rule did not exist.
Come to think of it, there was no rule against a dive (except USB) at that time, either.

When I was a high school goalkeeper, about 45 years ago, the rules allowed me to take 4 steps, bounce the ball, take 4 more steps... I took every punt from the top of the 18 and almost all of them reached the other goalie on one bounce. A different game then...

[DadOf6]

Quick question.... when did this play happen?
I only ask because I can think of a few things in this video that need to be addressed.

You're asking about simulation so I'll vote on that...
But what about the backpass to the keeper and how he picks it up and then the punt from the keeper entering the net without touching another player.

I can't remember a time when a 'keeper could not score directly from a punt.

[Sean_94]

It's hard to tell from this video, but it looks like a tripping foul to me.
The dribbler, after falling, gets right back up. It doesn't appear to me he's looking for a call. A dive is an attempt to fool the ref.
At least from what I can tell.