Nobody is scared of the US getting another World Cup

[Maczebus]

Originally posted by jamesf24
We have the "phone", you have the "telly", if that's how you even spell it,



Yeh, hadn't noticed this one.

Two different names for two different objects...will the mysteries ever cease?

[jamesf24]

Originally posted by maczebus


No different to the vast amount of Americans that derive national pride from NFL and MLB.

And we have no problem with having success at cricket being a source of national pride, after all it does involve some competition on a global scale.

Dammit I told myself I wouldn't get into that again... it just angrys up the blood you know, what what.

We don't derive any national pride from either of those sports. Neither of those sports are really "world" sports. Baseball has Japan & Cuba, and Venezuela, and really, there is not competition for us there. Same for American Football, no one else plays it. Personally, I don't care for baseball at all.

Anyhow, back to the point, we take national pride in tha we dominate everything, with soccer (and cricket) being the only exception. Soccer will soon be ours too.

I suppose there are a few winter olympic sports that do not dominate, but still, does anyone outside of a few Scandanavian countries care?

Don't get me wrong, I love English football, and I love the game as it is, but as I'm sure your sick of American Arrogance, we are sick of Euro Snobbery.

James

[sinner78]

Originally posted by jamesf24


, we are sick of Euro Snobbery.



ooh I aint heard that before.

[RSwenson]

Originally posted by jamesf24



Anyhow, back to the point, we take national pride in tha we dominate everything, with soccer (and cricket) being the only exception. Soccer will soon be ours too.

James

how about rugby and team handball (both of which are played in many more countries than play any of the so-called american sports except hoops... soccer/football is not "the final frontier" if that is the point you are making... we are just so fixated on our own activities that we rarely know what is goiing on outside our borders... what is more, for the average joe sixpack, that is the way he likes it;-)...

you are right... if we are going to play, we want to win... and, by god, the history of US sports is that we will change the rules or ignore it if we don't think that we can... (btw, ice hockey is not an excpeption... most Americans regard Canada as a colony and it really didn't start to gain big traction until we actually won a couple of world events... most Americans couldn't tell you which players in the NHL were Canadian, and which were American)...

rand

[photar74]

Originally posted by RSwenson


how about rugby and team handball (both of which are played in many more countries than play any of the so-called american sports except hoops...
rand

I've been to over twenty countries on four contitents, and everywhere I wnet, one thing remained the same--

people just kept talking about team handball. Truly the sport of the future.

[Alex_1]

Originally posted by jamesf24
For the record, American Football is called football, because the ball is 12 inches long.

James

You know, I never knew that. Really, I never did. I just figured what the hell, that's the name of the sport in the United States so what's all the fuss about? You use your feet in American football as well... you run and occasionally kick the ball. ;)

And I have heard of the handball claims as well... I don't get the "phenomenon" about that sport but my ex used to play the sport and loved it to death... in Norway, that is.

[Maczebus]

Originally posted by jamesf24


We don't derive any national pride from either of those sports. Neither of those sports are really "world" sports. Baseball has Japan & Cuba, and Venezuela, and really, there is not competition for us there. Same for American Football, no one else plays it. Personally, I don't care for baseball at all.

That was pretty much my point, but thanks for agreeing with me anyway.
And I just get a hint of national pride when I hear that MLB champions are now World champions and the same can be said of NFL where the Patriots are now World champions.
You may well be the rose amongst many thorns, but from my time in the US it certainly appeared to me that the 2 sports mentioned above engendered some kind of national feeling about them, hell the US can make anything a national pride issue!


Originally posted by jamesf24

Anyhow, back to the point, we take national pride in tha we dominate everything, with soccer (and cricket) being the only exception. Soccer will soon be ours too.

I suppose there are a few winter olympic sports that do not dominate, but still, does anyone outside of a few Scandanavian countries care?

It's really not that simple Uncle Sam.
Tennis, probably, golf almost definitely apart from Els little slip up recently. Basketball, not that much of a surprise really, but yes. Athletics, short distance sprints certainly, but longer distances no. Or the field events? Nowhere near dominating. And as someone has mentioned, handball (not that we play it) and rugby seem beyond the US.
I can't go on, after all mindless trolling just saps ones will to live.
Surely this is trolling ? Surely not even you can believe what you said about the winter olympics?

Originally posted by jamesf24

Don't get me wrong, I love English football, and I love the game as it is, but as I'm sure your sick of American Arrogance, we are sick of Euro Snobbery.


It is in response to American arrogance that most 'Euro-snobbery' comes to the fore. Europeans (such a nice generalisation) counter the argument that the US will be crowned World champions within the next 3 WCs, and then get lambasted for disagreeing.

[wu-tang beez]

And yet, it all comes back to the reason we dominate sports:




ATTITUDE!!!

[sinner78]

Originally posted by wu-tang beez
And yet, it all comes back to the reason we dominate sports:




ATTITUDE!!!

What sports??

the only sports that yanks dominate are wrestling ,baseball ,american football and ice dancing.

[SoFla Metro]

Originally posted by ignatz


According to the New Shorter Oxford Dictionary, "soccer" is "Football as played under Asscociation rules; Association Football." It is derived from "Assoc" (an abbreviation of "Association") plus "ER." That's Oxford, not Webster. So why do Brits worry if we use a termed they coined? I did not know that.

[vflkirwan]

I'm no basketball fan but I think we clearly dominate that one too if its our best 5 vs another's best 5.

[SoFla Metro]

Originally posted by sinner_ronald_monk


What sports??

the only sports that yanks dominate are wrestling ,baseball ,american football and ice dancing. which, coincidentally, is four more than the English dominate.

[Maczebus]

Originally posted by SoFla Metro
which, coincidentally, is four more than the English dominate.

Hey surely you're above the mindless trolling stakes Sofla?
If the US didn't dominate at least four sporting events with all their fabled money, facilities and stupendously huge population, then something would be seriously amiss.

[wu-tang beez]

Originally posted by SoFla Metro
which, coincidentally, is four more than the English dominate.

How many medals have the Limeys ever won? Bad teath, bad food, bad weather, ugly beeachez, no constitution, stupid dying monachy, steering wheels on the wrong side, no guns? What a vacation!

Back to futbol. Cognito ergo sum. We believe we're are invincible & are destined to dominate everything (politics, sports, economics) as is the will of our Creator. I wish I was making it up. Look up "manifest destiny" one day & you'll come to understand our broad shouldered arrogance & indifference to the world. Even our most treasured fathers warned against involving ourselves in european conflicts & traditions. Conservatives here blame german marxist & european intellectuals for the rise of atheism. Just a little insight on our psyche, sinful monk.

But then again, you still call us "yanks" 226 yrs after we ended an era of suffrage.

How does it feel to know that our best days are ahead of us & not behind like yours?

[boydreilly]

Originally posted by wu-tang beez

Even our most treasured fathers warned against involving ourselves in european conflicts & traditions.

Pick-up a book "Our Founding Brothers" and give it a good read before you ramble on about the intentions of our treasured fathers and their desire to meddle in foreign affairs.

[RyanH]

Leave the Brits alone! The post that started this thread was a joke! Get it? He was kidding! I bet he meant to start a friendly dialogue with a little jab about the spectacle that is American sports. Why don't all you "US Soccer fans" try to be a little more diplomatic instead of taking offense at something so small and feeling the need to immediately retaliate with something as stupid as "Uhhhhh, wulll....we dominate 4 sports!

How rediculous <shakes head>.

The USA has sporting success, and so do the English. Good for both of us. I think I can concede that England has excellent athletes without that admission doing any harm to US sports.

Ryan

[RyanH]

Wow, Wu-tang beez. I'm so impressed with your grasp of US/European history. You're very good at that.

What you suck at is making friends or being an emotional adult.

[Achilles]

How about you're all doorknobs?

Having pride in your country does not mean you have to trash someone elses. Or their culture.

Soccer, football, world sports, medals, Olympics.....

Does it really matter? You don't see the Japanese coming to this board talking about how they can whoop anyone's ass in Sumo Wrestling, do you?

We all have our culture and our own sports. Personally, even being an American, I can't stand American Football, Baseball, Hockey, or the ever mind numbing basketball.

Yet, I also can't stand Cricket, Australian Rules Football, Sumo Wrestling, Rugby is all right, but still not my style.

We can argue that all American's are fat, greedy, and arrogant and all the Europeans (Or British to be more accurate in this discussion) have bad teeth and are snobs.

But is it true? Most likely not.

I've wasted enough braincells on this conversation. Time to go back to ESPN and petition for more televised EPL games.

[Maczebus]

Originally posted by wu-tang beez


But then again, you still call us "yanks" 226 yrs after we ended an era of suffrage.

Surely the North was called something like this during your Civil War, you lot made us think it was fine. We can't be blamed for everything.



Originally posted by wu-tang beez

How does it feel to know that our best days are ahead of us & not behind like yours?

Arguably (and only slightly) our best days are still ahead of us. It's hardly like we have a shrinking economy. Owning a quarter of the world and the subsequent loss of the Empire, has not, by the 21st Century resulted in Britain simply managing to 'get by' without it. By the end, it was more of a burden than anything else, hence the ease with which it was given up between 1920 and 1970.

And to answer your question, how does it feel? It feels fine. It's nice to know that my country has a decent size footnote in history, which most great civilisations have.
I still cease to be amazed by how many Americans need to know what our perception of them is. If it weren't for the fact that it was 226 years ago when you ended an era of suffrage, I could have sworn you were still wondering what 'big' brother thinks of you.

[Baracuda]

American football and baseball were derived from English games, and basketball was created ba a canadian.
Hockey is well you know....second best isn't bad!
I think Lacrosse was created in the Americas by native Americans. The most American sport I believe. Just imagine if allf our athletes only played lacrosse. wow!
Can't we all just get along?
The English are just sore because they don't dominate any of the sports they created.
I love you all anyway though!