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Castroman
01 Jul 2006, 04:00 PM
After watching all games our boys played i am not just going for Argentina anymore as a matter afact i am proud as hell to cheer it up for this team!!!

the players played from heart what a soul and a performance they showed those players are pure class!

Although we went into this world cup fearing the coach's mistakes i really came to conclude that his mistakes did affect us. all do respect but the worst fear happened the same thing that happened to us in our friendly matches against England and Croatia. to be honest i agree with Maradona when he said that this is not Pekerman's level he gets confused and messes things up, he was actually right.

other things i liked to talk about such as ppl and fans talking about the coach needs more time a couple of yrs with these players to do well. all i have to say is guys ur not Korea and ur not Australia! ur Argentina ur players are talented u have a great league and ur a power house a monkey can put ur players together and have them play a good game! but all that counts is the subs that u make and what period of the game.

Pekerman talks about how he trusts Riquelme and subs him out! seems very confident about his playmaker.

he also concluded that we had a great tournament and we failed? Argentina didnt fail the players succeded but the coach fail! and wants to drag all others with him! Tevez is not Superman playing by himself for 120 mins up in front.

and honestly ive never seen a coach who decides on a player 1 hour before the match for an example Coloccini's situation which was decided 1 hr before the game.

anyways u may or may not like what ive talked about and said in this thread and i really would like to hear opinions and things u guys have to say back all i want to say is Argentina didnt lose they won! the players played from heart and won the match they played!

although many others should have been in the roster such as: Castroman, Zannetti, Santana, D'Alessandro, Zabaleta, Samuel, Lux, Diego Milltio

some were great in their leagues and still didnt get the chance they really deserved to be in this world cup! but i dont think any of those would forgive pekerman and neither would the ones he actually picked

the question now is who will be Argentina's next coach? or who are the candidates?

Bianchi?
Rossi?
Basile?
Maradona?
Burruchaga?
Calderon?

mariealus
01 Jul 2006, 05:22 PM
Maradona just...no.

He doesn't seem the type for such an important job. Just because he was a great player doesn't mean he would be a good coach.

leoriver
01 Jul 2006, 05:54 PM
Maradona alot may not like him to be a coach and I also have said that I would not like to see but the guy has been through a million wars and has had some of the best coaches.It sure as hell will be interesting.

My choices would be:

Bianchi
Burruchaga
Maradona
Ramon Diaz
Americo Gallego

and why not Bielsa

Castroman
01 Jul 2006, 07:37 PM
I dont know what to tell u but if maradona understands good football why not being a good coach? by the way most of his training was by himself he became one of the best players for training alone with his own abilities and new types of training that has nothing to do with football! put that on a side i think everyone got a chance to coach Argentina! we need a coach that knows what he's doing i dont care if pekerman played good football but made a bad sub and screwed it all up.

thats why theres a coach outside! his good and bad subs are the ones that decide a game if he gets confussed and subs wrong guys in and out then ull lose the match even if u had maradona playing!

most of u things subs dont count or maybe dont affect the game ur deffinetly mistaken! and if u think that way then i think that u dont understand football! watch Scolari and when he subs and how he subs and what period of time does he sub and ull know what im trying to get to u!

Bianchi same thing, Rossi same thing a coach is not just a coach who trains he's a coach on the field so when the game is going the players are playing physically and the coach should be playing mentally!

cordobesenUS
02 Jul 2006, 06:07 PM
Maradona in my opinion is uncapable of following a regimented life, as a coach he would suck, probably show up to training once every blue moon, it would be a disaster. I think he should remain as a motivator only but coach no way.

Castroman
02 Jul 2006, 10:29 PM
i dont know much spanish but as far as i understood they wanna work together to coach Argentina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i say Hell Yeah!



Una dupla ganadora
Carlos Bilardo afirmó que le gustaría ser el nuevo entrenador de la Selección Argentina, tras la renuncia de José Pekerman y, si es posible, que su ayudante sea Diego Maradona

02-07 | 15:21 hs. - "Sí, me gustaría", dijo Bilardo en la alemana Herzogenaurach, adonde siguió a la selección argentina en su papel actual de comentarista para televisión.

Argentina fue eliminada el pasado viernes de Alemania 2006 en los cuartos de final por la selección local en la definición por penales (4-2 tras haber igualado 1-1 en el juego), y su director técnico, José Pekerman anunció inmediatamente después que su ciclo había concluido.

Las dos finales que disputó el equipo albiceleste conducido por Bilardo fueron precisamente contra Alemania y con resultado dispar, ya que ganó 3-2 en el estadio Azteca de México y perdió 1-0 en el Olímpico de Roma.

"Me gustaría con un grupo. Tiene que ser gente que colaboró conmigo. Sería lo que busqué siempre: dirigir con un equipo de trabajo", dijo Bilardo.

Aclaró que le agradaría formar su elenco de colaboradores con los jugadores de aquellas selecciones que hoy son entrenadores, como Jorge Burruchaga y "Diego (Maradona) también".

"El otro día me encontré con Diego en un avión. Fue justo el día (29 de junio) que se cumplían 20 años del título. Ibamos para Berlín. Y hablamos mucho, y quedamos en que nos íbamos a reunir, a ver qué hacemos. Algo tenemos que hacer", relató Bilardo.

En las especulaciones que el anuncio de Pekerman abrió en los medios Maradona aparece como eventual sucesor aunque Carlos Bianchi luce como el preferido de los hinchas, y Bilardo también figura, por su afinidad con el presidente de la Asociación del Fútbol Argentino (AFA), Julio Grondona.

Éste, sin embargo, tomó nota de la decisión de Pekerman pero no la considera un asunto terminado.

"No es momento para decidir nada. No hay nada cerrado. Más tranquilos, en Buenos Aires, nos ocuparemos del tema", dijo en la localidad germana donde los argentinos tuvieron su base durante el Mundial, un día después de quedar afuera de la lucha por el título.

(Agencia AFP)

http://batanga.sportsya.com/noticia.php?id_estruc=1&id=103671

Castroman
02 Jul 2006, 11:26 PM
one more thing


Motivación 10

Maradona está en Munich y sueña con agarrar la manija.








Quién se hace cargo del buzo de DT? Es la pregunta que se hacen todos. Pero sí hay alguien que se muere por dirigir a la Selección, y que incluso lo dijo públicamente a los cuatro vientos antes del Mundial: Diego Maradona. El Diez, que no vio el partido en la cancha porque no dejaron entrar a un amigo suyo, según le dijeron ayer a Olé espera el llamado de Grondona y ya tiene equipo armado: Mancuso, el Tata Brown y el Negro Enrique. Dicen que está muy ansioso con este sueño y que en la intimidad no le gustaron nada los cambios de Pekerman contra Alemania.

Ayer, en el búnker de la Selección, esperaban su visita pero Diego ni pintó. Igual, desde su entorno confirmaron que se quedará hasta el 10 en Alemania. ¿Por qué no vio el partido del viernes? "Le comentamos que una persona se había comportado de manera agresiva y que había amenazado con violencia física y no podía entrar. Y Maradona decidió irse", explicó el director de comunicaciones de la FIFA, Markus Siegler.


http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v4/pagina.jsp?pagId=1226588&fecha=20060702

EL MONO MARIO
03 Jul 2006, 09:13 AM
My choices would be:

Bianchi (hated by Grondona)
Burruchaga (needs to win something)
Maradona (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)
Americo Gallego (nothing else to prove a winner everywhere he has gone!)
Bielsa (Why not?)
Miguel Russo (associated with Velez.... )
Hector Cuper (out of the picture for a while may turn up in ARgentina)

bsas
03 Jul 2006, 11:27 AM
El Narigon Bilardo would be a great choice. He already won a WC, so he knows what it's about.

cigar_city
03 Jul 2006, 02:12 PM
First, my first choince would be the retention of Pekerman, a classy guy who really had the team playing as well as i've seen them play since the first round of the '04 Copa here in the US. I think he will have learned a tremendous, tremendous lesson from this WC, which will only make him a better tactician. Of course, if he REALLy does NOT want to stay, i don't want him there, given the pressure.

Other than Pekerman, I'd say Gallego or Bianchi. If la prensa e el publico Argentino would clamor for Bianchi, it would force Grondona's hand. After all he really allowed for no other options than Pekerman. Bianchi is easily the most succesful Argentinian coach in recent memory, and i think he does well under pressure.

Gallego, la leyenda Rojinegra, has won everywhere he's gone, and was a winner himself on the '78 team. More so than tactical expertise, he reaaly has a good feel for whom will excel in certain circumstances, and he's noit afraid to change his style to make the most of what he has. (Tevez, Messi, Aguero - 4-3-3 ????).

It should be one of these two, Basile, Bilardo and Passa have had their shots.

megamac20817
03 Jul 2006, 02:43 PM
Why does no one consider Ramon Diaz? He won almost as many titles as Bianchi, and he did it in less time with a single team, not to mention that he never flopped with a team (At. Madrid should be fresh in our minds).

I don't know much about Gallego, but he seems like a good choice, along maybe with Burruchaga. Bielsa is a possibility, but he's too strict and would limit certain players through preference I believe.

El Kaiser Pasarella is happy at River, and I'd rather he stay there, so AFA better not touch our manager, just our ex-manager Ramon.

elciclon
03 Jul 2006, 03:23 PM
to name bielsa is a little dramatic no, has he done anyhting to prove himself after 02, i like gallego as coach but hate him as a person, ramon is a choice although unlikely, burru is at independiente and is not going to leave. i liked pekerman but he was married to certain players and in a way cost us the world cup. its wierd that he never takes out riquelme yet in the game were we need he to set the tempo and keep it there he takes him out for a guy who in most opinnions has been playing under his usual level. also cruz was a wierd sub as well. i think that if pekerman were to come back he should explain this things and should also show us that he has a plan b in case our main palyer (riquelme is not playing a good game). i think that el bambino veira could do it, it would be a fantastic four years, if anyone saw the especial of san lorenzo campeon 95' his expression are worth having him as a coach.as much as i love bilardo i think his time has come to an end, hopefully he'll make me eat my words and wins a wc.

cigar_city
03 Jul 2006, 03:44 PM
para mi, fue muy pero muy obvio que Riquelme no daba mas. Se habia desenchufado y no tenia mas para dar - eso siempre fue me problema con JRR, que se cansa demasiado en un tiempo muy corto. Cruz hizo su penal y tambien tuvo un buen cabazazo. La problema fur en el tactico de poner Cambiasso y no a Messi o Palacios, alguien que hiba a llevar la pelea alos Alemanes hijos de pvta.

Yes, for some reason i keep forgetting Ramon Diaz, el unico que hizo algo en el '82.

Bielsa, aunque es de Newell's, para mi fue un desastre lo que ocurrio en'02. He showed me that he could not manage strong personalities.

On second thought, get the gallina Passarella back in there

megamac20817
03 Jul 2006, 09:19 PM
para mi, fue muy pero muy obvio que Riquelme no daba mas. Se habia desenchufado y no tenia mas para dar - eso siempre fue me problema con JRR, que se cansa demasiado en un tiempo muy corto. Cruz hizo su penal y tambien tuvo un buen cabazazo. La problema fur en el tactico de poner Cambiasso y no a Messi o Palacios, alguien que hiba a llevar la pelea alos Alemanes hijos de pvta.

Yes, for some reason i keep forgetting Ramon Diaz, el unico que hizo algo en el '82.

Bielsa, aunque es de Newell's, para mi fue un desastre lo que ocurrio en'02. He showed me that he could not manage strong personalities.

On second thought, get the gallina Passarella back in there

Dejen el Kaiser y pongan al cabezon

elciclon
03 Jul 2006, 09:39 PM
Dejen el Kaiser y pongan al cabezon
ruggeri? el se queda en san lorenzo por ahora, esperemos ganar algo con el, hace tiempo que no tengo una alegria./

papams wind
03 Jul 2006, 10:27 PM
My choices would be:

Bianchi (hated by Grondona)
Burruchaga (needs to win something)
Maradona (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)
Americo Gallego (nothing else to prove a winner everywhere he has gone!)
Bielsa (Why not?)
Miguel Russo (associated with Velez.... )
Hector Cuper (out of the picture for a while may turn up in ARgentina)


Why not Cuper? He is only coach who have successed in Eroupe in recent years. We need this kind of experienced professional coach but not to pick some unkown guy such as Bielsa.

leoriver
03 Jul 2006, 10:51 PM
Cuper? I did like him but his 2 chances of wining the Champions with Valencia gave me second thoughts.
He came out to play both games with one forward and try to see what happens instead of going for the win. He chickened out.

My best bet would be Bianchi,he has won alot with boca and not having many stars on that team, not to mention with Velez.Who in that team there wasn't any stars.

I know he didn't do much with Atletico Madrid but you know how it is in Europe,they expect for a coach to come out wining every game from the start.As for in Roma same thing.

Then it would be Burruchaga yea he needs to win something but look at the teams he has coached, Arsenal and Estudiantes. To very ************ teams with no really good players that stand out and has done an excellent job.Got Arsenal to play in some of their first internacional games such as Sudamericana and Estudiantes doing a pretty good job in this years Copa Libertadores de America.Now with Independiente he might have achance to really win something I wish him the best.

Castroman
03 Jul 2006, 11:02 PM
Cuper? I did like him but his 2 chances of wining the Champions with Valencia gave me second thoughts.
He came out to play both games with one forward and try to see what happens instead of going for the win. He chickened out.

My best bet would be Bianchi,he has won alot with boca and not having many stars on that team, not to mention with Velez.Who in that team there wasn't any stars.

I know he didn't do much with Atletico Madrid but you know how it is in Europe,they expect for a coach to come out wining every game from the start.As for in Roma same thing.

Then it would be Burruchaga yea he needs to win something but look at the teams he has coached, Arsenal and Estudiantes. To very ************ teams with no really good players that stand out and has done an excellent job.Got Arsenal to play in some of their first internacional games such as Sudamericana and Estudiantes doing a pretty good job in this years Copa Libertadores de America.Now with Independiente he might have achance to really win something I wish him the best.


Billardo, Maradona, Burruchaga decided that if one of them gets the job the other two would be the assistants and coaching staff so thats why i dont care if maradona gets the job because Burruchaga and Bilardo will be with him :>

smd9
03 Jul 2006, 11:05 PM
Billardo, Maradona, Burruchaga decided that if one of them gets the job the other two would be the assistants and coaching staff so thats why i dont care if maradona gets the job because Burruchaga and Bilardo will be with him :>

really? if so that would be great.

leoriver
03 Jul 2006, 11:16 PM
Billardo, Maradona, Burruchaga decided that if one of them gets the job the other two would be the assistants and coaching staff so thats why i dont care if maradona gets the job because Burruchaga and Bilardo will be with him :>

I don't think that would be a good ideal really.