View Full Version : Best Coach so far..
gAmA
03 Jul 2006, 09:58 AM
:eek:
Sachin
03 Jul 2006, 11:40 AM
Bruce Arena....
Just kidding y'all...
:D
Sachin
tebbz
03 Jul 2006, 12:55 PM
Ratomir Dujković of Ghana did well, dispite losing out to Brazil, as overwhelming underdogs they were the only African nation to qualify to the knock out stages, considering his team are not world class players he did very well to progress to the knock out stages.
Another man I think is good is Marco Van Basten, the youngest manager in this tounament, in charge of Holland and showed so much enthusiasm until they lost to Portugal.
But my main man I think is Scolari, although I do not respect the methods and tactics of the Portugal team, I do think Scolari has done exceedingly well dispite the odds against him. With out Scolari, Portugal wouldnt be where they are now, thats a fact.
gAmA
03 Jul 2006, 01:09 PM
Fact? How do you prove it?
tebbz
03 Jul 2006, 01:13 PM
Fact? How do you prove it?
You take away Scolari and then see how well Portugal do.
17mika
03 Jul 2006, 01:45 PM
Scolari is te best 4 me.
He made an "ordinary" Brasil win the cup in 2002 (he had quite a bad defence and a just some decent midfielders) and he's doing really a good job with Portugal in these days.
luftmensch
03 Jul 2006, 05:43 PM
You take away Scolari and then see how well Portugal do.
You are correct, I tried that in one of my alternate universes, and it didn't work out well for them at all. Consider it proved.
GoodDead
03 Jul 2006, 05:54 PM
Euro 2000- Quality
WC2006- Probably our best team ever.
I agree. Win or lose we have done more these past two years then ever before and in my opinion eclipse what we done in '66.
Scolari is a genius.
"SCOLARI mandou...apoiar eu vou, eu vou"
RegginaCalcio
03 Jul 2006, 05:55 PM
Lippi
Here you have a team with a huge scandal going on back home, came through one GOD with 7 points, all kinds of injuries to starting players (Nesta, Gattuso, Zambrotta), getting through playing with 10 men twice, having guys suspended (Materazzi, De Rossi), having the media constantly hounding him over team selections, formations, strategies, international media calling his team boring, cheaters etc etc...and still this team only gets better and they seemed to have jelled into a cohesive unit. I am not saying he is the best in this tournament but his name is worth a mention.
LarsSon
03 Jul 2006, 07:42 PM
My $0.02 on the fluff part of coaching:
Klinsmann's excitement during each German goal brings charisma to the German team and football in general. He dresses well too, has a very Germanesque style.
Scolari's mannerisms remind me of a used car dealership manager.
edit, is it just me, or does Klinsmann look like Kevin Costner?
naus, I don't know what he looks like but charisma is what he got. I look at coaches at times and think to myself...he looks like a winner...and Klinsmann looks like the only winner in this world cup. Scolari sure..but no. Doesnt look like a winner. France coach..maybe. He has charisma but he used to be an actor? I think Germany with Klinsmann will go all the way.
He fooled the whole world . That's what he should get credit for. Sweden/argentina did not expect the Germans to be this strong and calculating. I think it will make the difference in the end.
The Western Hag
03 Jul 2006, 07:59 PM
Once play begins, the coach has limited influence. It is prior to actual play that the coach's quality has its major effect.
I think the greatest influence the coach can have is in picking the players he/she takes to the WC. The individual members of the squad determine, to some degree, everything that happens throughout the tournament. It is in correctly assessing talent, putting together offense and defense, picking players that will mesh, that the strengths and weaknesses of any team, as a whole, are born.
With those coaches who have an overabundance of talent in their countries, it is more difficult to discern which are the correct players for the team. Their choices are harder because the players may be more skilled and/or sophisticated in their knowledge of the game (aka prejudiced/set in their ways).
I give all kudos to Huddink, Dujkovic, Beenhaker, for managing their teams to bring out their utmost potential. They played good football.
Pekerman, Van Basten, Erickson, Parreira, Aragones - could not bring out the best in their teams when it was needed.
Dogmatagram
03 Jul 2006, 08:17 PM
Seems hard to argue against this proposition at this point. In the games that mattered, France has performed at maximum ability unlike any other side -- indeed, uniquely so. Thoughts?
ursula
03 Jul 2006, 08:28 PM
One could counter that by saying the coach of the only team left that wasn't a #1 seed could be the coach of the cup.
Probably whoever wins the damn thing will be the coach of the tournament.
I-Got-The-BLUES
03 Jul 2006, 08:32 PM
Nah, definetly not......
Yes France in it, and looking strong, but I strongly believe his formation isn't the greatest for the team...and he has made some odd personelle decisions.
He's not bad, but I wouldn't put him as coach of the cup, based on his decisions thus far.
ForeverRed
03 Jul 2006, 08:34 PM
Klinsi could be it if he takes Germany to the final, especially since he's never really coached before.
Sinter
03 Jul 2006, 08:37 PM
Lippi
sidis
03 Jul 2006, 08:59 PM
Scolari.
rat2k5
03 Jul 2006, 09:41 PM
Lippi without a doubt
ursula
03 Jul 2006, 10:18 PM
Threads merged
Heinz
03 Jul 2006, 11:44 PM
Lippi without a doubt
Lolz..beating Ukraine 3 nil doesn't make him the best coach so far (Spain beat Ukraine 4-0 so Aragones is definitely better than Lippi). Remember the U.S game?? Heck, Italy only managed to beat AUS with a diving...