Jose Pekerman

[Pekerman]

This is likely to be the "end of his cycle" as he has already submitted his resignation according to reports.

This will be a great loss for Argentina as I think that Pekerman was a great coach who did an incredible job in preparing our players mentally, physically and tactically.
List of games under Pekerman:

9-10-04 Buenos Aires Uruguay 4-2 Luis González, Luciano Figueroa (2) y Javier Zanetti.
13-10-04 Santiago Chile 0-0
17-10-04 Buenos Aires Venezuela 3-2 José Rey en contra, Juan Román Riquelme y Javier Saviola.
29-12-04 Barcelona Cataluña 3-0 Lionel Scaloni, Maximiliano Rodríguez y Luciano Galletti.
09-02-05 Dusseldorf Alemania 2-2 Hernán Crespo 2 (uno de penal).
09-03-05 Los Angeles México 1-1 Rolando Zárate.
26-03-05 La Paz Bolivia 2-1 Luciano Figueroa y Luciano Galletti.
30-03-05 Buenos Aires Colombia 1-0 Hernán Crespo.
04-06-05 Quito Ecuador 0-2
08-06-05 Buenos Aires Brasil 3-1 Hernán Crespo (2) y Juan Román Riquelme.
15-06-05 Colonia Túnez 2-1 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Javier Saviola.
18-06-05 Nuremberg Australia 4-2 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Luciano Figueroa (tres).
21-06-05 Nuremberg Alemania 2-2 Juan Román Riquelme y Esteban Cambiasso.
26-06-05 Hanover México 1(6)-1(5) Luciano Figueroa.
29-06-05 Frankfurt Brasil 1-4 Pablo Aimar.
17-08-05 Budapest Hungría 2-1 Maximiliano Rodríguez y Gabriel Heinze.
03-09-05 Asunción Paraguay 0-1
09-10-05 Buenos Aires Perú 2-0 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Luis Guadalupe, en contra.
12-10-05 Montevideo Uruguay 0-1
12-11-05 Ginebra Inglaterra 2-3 Hernán Crespo y Roberto Ayala.
16-11-05 Doha Qatar 3-0 Juan Román Riquelme, Julio Cruz y Roberto Ayala.
01-03-06 Basilea Croacia 2-3 Carlos Tevez y Lionel Messi.
30-05-06 Salerno Angola 2-0 Maximiliano Rodríguez y Juan Pablo Sorín.
10-06-06 Hamburgo Costa de Marfil 2-1 Hernán Crespo y Javier Saviola.
16-06-06 Gelsenkirchen Serbia y Mont. 6-0 Maximiliano Rodríguez (2), Esteban Cambiasso, Hernán Crespo, Carlos Tevez y Lionel Messi.
21-06-06 Frankfurt Holanda 0-0
24-06-06 Leipzig México 2-1 Hernán Crespo y Maximiliano Rodríguez.
30-06-06 Berlín Alemania 1(2)-1(4)Roberto Ayala.

Please leave your opinions and thoughts about Pekerman and his resignation.

[Asalieri]

This is likely to be the "end of his cycle" as he has already submitted his resignation according to reports.

This will be a great loss for Argentina as I think that Pekerman was a great coach who did an incredible job in preparing our players mentally, physically and tactically.
List of games under Pekerman:

9-10-04 Buenos Aires Uruguay 4-2 Luis González, Luciano Figueroa (2) y Javier Zanetti.
13-10-04 Santiago Chile 0-0
17-10-04 Buenos Aires Venezuela 3-2 José Rey en contra, Juan Román Riquelme y Javier Saviola.
29-12-04 Barcelona Cataluña 3-0 Lionel Scaloni, Maximiliano Rodríguez y Luciano Galletti.
09-02-05 Dusseldorf Alemania 2-2 Hernán Crespo 2 (uno de penal).
09-03-05 Los Angeles México 1-1 Rolando Zárate.
26-03-05 La Paz Bolivia 2-1 Luciano Figueroa y Luciano Galletti.
30-03-05 Buenos Aires Colombia 1-0 Hernán Crespo.
04-06-05 Quito Ecuador 0-2
08-06-05 Buenos Aires Brasil 3-1 Hernán Crespo (2) y Juan Román Riquelme.
15-06-05 Colonia Túnez 2-1 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Javier Saviola.
18-06-05 Nuremberg Australia 4-2 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Luciano Figueroa (tres).
21-06-05 Nuremberg Alemania 2-2 Juan Román Riquelme y Esteban Cambiasso.
26-06-05 Hanover México 1(6)-1(5) Luciano Figueroa.
29-06-05 Frankfurt Brasil 1-4 Pablo Aimar.
17-08-05 Budapest Hungría 2-1 Maximiliano Rodríguez y Gabriel Heinze.
03-09-05 Asunción Paraguay 0-1
09-10-05 Buenos Aires Perú 2-0 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Luis Guadalupe, en contra.
12-10-05 Montevideo Uruguay 0-1
12-11-05 Ginebra Inglaterra 2-3 Hernán Crespo y Roberto Ayala.
16-11-05 Doha Qatar 3-0 Juan Román Riquelme, Julio Cruz y Roberto Ayala.
01-03-06 Basilea Croacia 2-3 Carlos Tevez y Lionel Messi.
30-05-06 Salerno Angola 2-0 Maximiliano Rodríguez y Juan Pablo Sorín.
10-06-06 Hamburgo Costa de Marfil 2-1 Hernán Crespo y Javier Saviola.
16-06-06 Gelsenkirchen Serbia y Mont. 6-0 Maximiliano Rodríguez (2), Esteban Cambiasso, Hernán Crespo, Carlos Tevez y Lionel Messi.
21-06-06 Frankfurt Holanda 0-0
24-06-06 Leipzig México 2-1 Hernán Crespo y Maximiliano Rodríguez.
30-06-06 Berlín Alemania 1(2)-1(4)Roberto Ayala.

Please leave your opinions and thoughts about Pekerman and his resignation.

It's really melancholy I feel after all the "y ya lo ve" chanting...
I do not like to see him go so quickly.

[bsas]

I don't like coaches changing too fast. It requires a few years to get perfectly in tune with the players. Pekerman did a very good job. I just regret the fact that he did not trust Messi much. I am not falling into the hype of thinking Messi can do the match alone, but no other team would have left such a talent on the bench.

Anyway, let's see who takes over, but I really hope it's not Maradona.

[TimB4Last]

This is likely to be the "end of his cycle" as he has already submitted his resignation according to reports.

This will be a great loss for Argentina as I think that Pekerman was a great coach who did an incredible job in preparing our players mentally, physically and tactically.

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Please leave your opinions and thoughts about Pekerman and his resignation.

First, I think would have been best for all if he had resigned post-WC, even if Argentina had hoisted the Cup as victors on July 9th. Getting beaten in the QF just makes this point all the clearer.

What's the point? Very few coaches are the 'right' choice for more than one WC cycle. To keep Pekerman now, you would have to project him as the coach for 2010. Better for him to step aside now, and for your federation to bring in a new coach with the entire four-year panorama in front of him.

Argentina is loaded with talent, and you'll still be loaded in four years. You need a coach who can get that talent onto the field.

Pekerman will live with today's loss for the rest of his life, and for better or worse he has only himself to blame. Yes, a key injury forced his hand, but his use of subs was poor.

You have to get Messi on the field. You have to. If you are not going to start Messi (ala Tevez for Saviola), you must get Messi in at the first opportunity. Dare I say that Cruz for Crespo will be Pekerman's 'epitah.'

And speaking of Saviola, I understand the impulse to get Tevez out there from the start. But Argentina was playing pretty nicely with Saviola starting and Tevez coming on later. If I want Tevez to start in the QF v. Germany, then I'm working him into the starting lineup earlier in the competition.

I still can't believe that Messi stayed on the bench - he could very well have been the difference in this one.

Then again, maybe not. We'll never know.

Pekerman's going to have the rest of his life to think about the decisions he made today. But his decision to resign was the right one, for all concerned.

[Borussia]

Today he surely made a mistake, but please don't blame him too much! IMO he's a great manager and real gentleman! A pity to see him resigning...:(

[The Prophet]

He when back to the old south american mentality to bunker in and try to hold the 1-0 lead. It never works.

[Fat Eric Cantona]

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Anyway, let's see who takes over, but I really hope it's not Maradona.

No it the right time for Maradona, give him the job and see how it turns out. i think he'll balls it up. better right after the world cup then during the importnat 2010 qualifiers. i can't wait 4 more years aghaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[efernandez9]

He when back to the old south american mentality to bunker in and try to hold the 1-0 lead. It never works. bunker?

that is first comment on that regards

are U crazy...or too sad for the result?

[soccerocean]

Before the cup, Argentina tried to protect leads against England and Croatia, both times losing in the waning minutes. With the Ivory Coast again Argentina was forced to suffer by trying to sit on a 2-0 lead. Pekerman should have know that 1-0 against Germany is simply not enough!! Aimar and Messi would have kept the offensive edge with Argentina and put Germany on it's heals. Instead, Pekerman goes into defense mode, the Germans gain confidence and the invariable happens. Germany is famous for these types of victories, they thrive on them. Pekerman gave them the opening they needed and Germany killed us.

[botch]

Maradona at least wouldn't be stupid enough to leave Messi on the bench.

What is Peckerman's beef with Messi? is he pissed that at 18 years old he wasn't as good as Messi?

[botch]

I still can't believe that Messi stayed on the bench - he could very well have been the difference in this one.

Then again, maybe not. We'll never know.



You know it would have. Seriously, who is that retarded to leave such a talented player on the bench.

[ElMuneco]

Before the cup, Argentina tried to protect leads against England and Croatia, both times losing in the waning minutes. With the Ivory Coast again Argentina was forced to suffer by trying to sit on a 2-0 lead. Pekerman should have know that 1-0 against Germany is simply not enough!! Aimar and Messi would have kept the offensive edge with Argentina and put Germany on it's heals. Instead, Pekerman goes into defense mode, the Germans gain confidence and the invariable happens. Germany is famous for these types of victories, they thrive on them. Pekerman gave them the opening they needed and Germany killed us.

Totally concur with your take Soccerocean. You couldn't have said it any better. If you have a 1-0 lead against a top club/country, you don't sit back and try to control the game by holding onto the ball. Eventually you're going to give it up(remember in the Copa America against Brasil) and pay the price and that's exactly what happened. Pekerman got too conservative at the end. He should've went for the jugular after Ayala scored.

[ElMuneco]

You know it would have. Seriously, who is that retarded to leave such a talented player on the bench.



Another great take. You don't leave a player who single handedly won the World Youth Championship for Argentina on the bench. Not with his speed, skill, and vision.

[Pekerman]

Ok so I have heard most of your opinions about Pekerman and not many seem to want him as a coach.

How about him having a SECONDARY role in the national team ? How about a coach assistant ? He will not be the man who has a call in the important decision but he would offer valuable work for our players.

I hope he gets a role.

[Viola Star]

This is likely to be the "end of his cycle" as he has already submitted his resignation according to reports.

This will be a great loss for Argentina as I think that Pekerman was a great coach who did an incredible job in preparing our players mentally, physically and tactically.
List of games under Pekerman:

9-10-04 Buenos Aires Uruguay 4-2 Luis González, Luciano Figueroa (2) y Javier Zanetti.
13-10-04 Santiago Chile 0-0
17-10-04 Buenos Aires Venezuela 3-2 José Rey en contra, Juan Román Riquelme y Javier Saviola.
29-12-04 Barcelona Cataluña 3-0 Lionel Scaloni, Maximiliano Rodríguez y Luciano Galletti.
09-02-05 Dusseldorf Alemania 2-2 Hernán Crespo 2 (uno de penal).
09-03-05 Los Angeles México 1-1 Rolando Zárate.
26-03-05 La Paz Bolivia 2-1 Luciano Figueroa y Luciano Galletti.
30-03-05 Buenos Aires Colombia 1-0 Hernán Crespo.
04-06-05 Quito Ecuador 0-2
08-06-05 Buenos Aires Brasil 3-1 Hernán Crespo (2) y Juan Román Riquelme.
15-06-05 Colonia Túnez 2-1 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Javier Saviola.
18-06-05 Nuremberg Australia 4-2 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Luciano Figueroa (tres).
21-06-05 Nuremberg Alemania 2-2 Juan Román Riquelme y Esteban Cambiasso.
26-06-05 Hanover México 1(6)-1(5) Luciano Figueroa.
29-06-05 Frankfurt Brasil 1-4 Pablo Aimar.
17-08-05 Budapest Hungría 2-1 Maximiliano Rodríguez y Gabriel Heinze.
03-09-05 Asunción Paraguay 0-1
09-10-05 Buenos Aires Perú 2-0 Juan Román Riquelme, de penal, y Luis Guadalupe, en contra.
12-10-05 Montevideo Uruguay 0-1
12-11-05 Ginebra Inglaterra 2-3 Hernán Crespo y Roberto Ayala.
16-11-05 Doha Qatar 3-0 Juan Román Riquelme, Julio Cruz y Roberto Ayala.
01-03-06 Basilea Croacia 2-3 Carlos Tevez y Lionel Messi.
30-05-06 Salerno Angola 2-0 Maximiliano Rodríguez y Juan Pablo Sorín.
10-06-06 Hamburgo Costa de Marfil 2-1 Hernán Crespo y Javier Saviola.
16-06-06 Gelsenkirchen Serbia y Mont. 6-0 Maximiliano Rodríguez (2), Esteban Cambiasso, Hernán Crespo, Carlos Tevez y Lionel Messi.
21-06-06 Frankfurt Holanda 0-0
24-06-06 Leipzig México 2-1 Hernán Crespo y Maximiliano Rodríguez.
30-06-06 Berlín Alemania 1(2)-1(4)Roberto Ayala.

Please leave your opinions and thoughts about Pekerman and his resignation.
Cruz instead of Messi? Scaloni instead of Zanetti?
I won't exactly be distraught over his departure.

[papams wind]

First, I think would have been best for all if he had resigned post-WC, even if Argentina had hoisted the Cup as victors on July 9th. Getting beaten in the QF just makes this point all the clearer.

What's the point? Very few coaches are the 'right' choice for more than one WC cycle. To keep Pekerman now, you would have to project him as the coach for 2010. Better for him to step aside now, and for your federation to bring in a new coach with the entire four-year panorama in front of him.

Argentina is loaded with talent, and you'll still be loaded in four years. You need a coach who can get that talent onto the field.

Pekerman will live with today's loss for the rest of his life, and for better or worse he has only himself to blame. Yes, a key injury forced his hand, but his use of subs was poor.

You have to get Messi on the field. You have to. If you are not going to start Messi (ala Tevez for Saviola), you must get Messi in at the first opportunity. Dare I say that Cruz for Crespo will be Pekerman's 'epitah.'

And speaking of Saviola, I understand the impulse to get Tevez out there from the start. But Argentina was playing pretty nicely with Saviola starting and Tevez coming on later. If I want Tevez to start in the QF v. Germany, then I'm working him into the starting lineup earlier in the competition.

I still can't believe that Messi stayed on the bench - he could very well have been the difference in this one.

Then again, maybe not. We'll never know.

Pekerman's going to have the rest of his life to think about the decisions he made today. But his decision to resign was the right one, for all concerned.

I fully agree with you!
The thing I can not pardon Perkerman is that he repeated same mistakes in several important matches: England, Crotia, Ivory Coast, Germany.
But i think the style of argentina in this world cup is better than Bielsa`s.
What perkerman need is to improve his abilty to observe the situation of matches and make right decision.

[TimB4Last]

Ok so I have heard most of your opinions about Pekerman and not many seem to want him as a coach.

How about him having a SECONDARY role in the national team ? How about a coach assistant ? He will not be the man who has a call in the important decision but he would offer valuable work for our players.

I hope he gets a role.

Do we know what Pekerman is doing at the moment? What are his options (in Argentina and elsewhere)?

Apparently Pekerman was interviewed recently by US Soccer President Sunil Gulati and is being considered for the USMNT head coaching position. [The US also needs a U23/Olympic coach.]

Would Pekerman be a good choice for the US? Why or why not?

[Illrod3]

Would Pekerman be a good choice for the US? Why or why not?

He is currently without a job and that is probably why his name surfaced. He also turned down an offer to coach Argentina again saying that he didn't like all the pressure and criticism that comes with the job. So maybe the US would be a good fit since there would be almost no pressure and media criticism (compared to Argentina). I think he would be good, he is an experience coach who has done most of his work with young players U-20 teams winning several U-20 world cups. I don't think that the knows much about the US soccer system but I am sure he would get someone in his staff that would know. I also don't think he speaks english much or at all, so that might be a issue, specially while dealing with the media. But he will definetly be a lot more aggressive than Arena and would always play offensive football, never having played with one single forward. He is known in Argentina for being a great motivator who works with the entire team not just the starting 11, motivation was something that US seemed to really need in Germany. It would be interesting to see how he would relate to US players with the cultural differences and if he can inspire the players like he has done in the past. I think that players like Dempsey, Adu & Donovan would greatly benefit from his coaching though.

[TimB4Last]

He is currently without a job and that is probably why his name surfaced. He also turned down an offer to coach Argentina again saying that he didn't like all the pressure and criticism that comes with the job. So maybe the US would be a good fit since there would be almost no pressure and media criticism (compared to Argentina). I think he would be good, he is an experience coach who has done most of his work with young players U-20 teams winning several U-20 world cups. I don't think that the knows much about the US soccer system but I am sure he would get someone in his staff that would know. I also don't think he speaks english much or at all, so that might be a issue, specially while dealing with the media. But he will definetly be a lot more aggressive than Arena and would always play offensive football, never having played with one single forward. He is known in Argentina for being a great motivator who works with the entire team not just the starting 11, motivation was something that US seemed to really need in Germany. It would be interesting to see how he would relate to US players with the cultural differences and if he can inspire the players like he has done in the past. I think that players like Dempsey, Adu & Donovan would greatly benefit from his coaching though.

First, thanks for answering my question(s).

What about the practical realities of relocating? You mentioned the language issue, but I'm thinking more of leaving everyone/everything behind in Argentina. Has he worked abroad before? If so, for how long and under what circumstances? Are his children all adults and settled? Grandkids?

I associate Pekerman very strongly with Argentina - a lot of international travel, sure, but with a solid base back home. Three years is a long time to live away from home, even if the money is great. I'm nervous that if the US selects him he won't last until 2010, for one reason or another.

[Illrod3]

What about the practical realities of relocating? You mentioned the language issue, but I'm thinking more of leaving everyone/everything behind in Argentina. Has he worked abroad before? If so, for how long and under what circumstances? Are his children all adults and settled? Grandkids?

I associate Pekerman very strongly with Argentina - a lot of international travel, sure, but with a solid base back home. Three years is a long time to live away from home, even if the money is great. I'm nervous that if the US selects him he won't last until 2010, for one reason or another.

I admit that don't know his personnal situation but I know that he is a professional and wouldn't be interviewing for the job unless there was an actual possibility of actually taking the job. IMO. He has worked in Spain in the past.