How scared should the World be of the USA hosting another WC?

[photar74]

In all likelihood, the USA will host the 2014 WC. How scared should this make the large anti-American contigent of football fans around the world? How desparately should the various anti-Americans who exist in pockets around the globe begin working to prevent this from happening? I mean, let's face it. Considering the improvement of team USA over the past fifteen years or so, if the USA hosts the WC in 2014, the unthinkable could happen:

They could win it. Actually, they probably would be the favorites (or at least one of the top five favorites).

How scared does this make you? Be honest. I've seen a lot of slander against USA soccer on this board--doesn't this prospect have you quaking in your boots?

USA--2014 World Cup champions.

[mpruitt]

thats over ten years awawy. i know the current global political climate has us all a little on edge but youre beign a bit parinoid. even despite the pipe bombing at the '96 olympics i'd say theres probably few better places to host an event of that magnitutde. korea did a very good job at security but the US has the resources and the will power to make sure that itd be a safe event for all. i hope the next time we get the cup however that teams, or groups play games a little geographically closer to each other, thatd be better for the teams and better for security purposes.

in terms of any anti-american futball community sentiment, i think the US is in an interesting place in regards to hosting the world cup. north america desirves to host the cup again, and soon. yes we'll have to wait our turn again but the georgraphic distance between France '98 and Germany '04 is probably less than Los Angelos and New York.

[UncleSam527]

I don't think he was referring to terrorism. He was referring to the potential skill level of the USA team at that time.

In that case, then, the USofA will be holding the Jules Rimet trophy for all the world to see.

[CrewDust]

The one thing about a USA hosted cup is that ever country can get good support for there team. There won't be just 1000 people supporting a team.

[MassachusettsRef]

Originally posted by UncleSam527

In that case, then, the USofA will be holding the Jules Rimet trophy for all the world to see. Will they find it by then?

The Jules Rimet trophy was retired when Brazil won it for the third time in 1970 and was lost soon afterwards. Many believe it was melted down.

The winners of the World Cup now received a trophy that is simply titled the "World Cup Trophy". It hasn't been called the Jules Rimet Cup since 1970.

[thepremierleague]

Originally posted by CrewDust
In that case, then, the USofA will be holding the Jules Rimet trophy for all the world to see.

ROFL. :rolleyes:

Holland and Spain have never won it in 30 years of great teams with far more skill, what makes you think you will.

[MassachusettsRef]

Originally posted by photar74
In all likelihood, the USA will host the 2014 WC. It's very possible, but I don't think it's a definite. Remember, the World Cup has not beein in South America since 1978, CONMEBOL will be aching for its return. If Brazil has its economic cards in order, and the infrastructe is there (or will be there soon) when bids are due in 2008, then there is a very good chance that the WC will go to Brazil for 2014. A lot of things can change in the next 6 years, especially with the currently volitile international political and economic scenes. I would say right now that there is an equal likelihood of Brazil, USA or Canada hosting the 2014 WC (Canada as a compromise candidate if the old guard in FIFA don't want to go back to the USA so soon, but can't justify going to Brazil for financial reasons).

Anyway, if the "principle of rotation" that FIFA has switched to means that the WC is rotated as follows:

A) "Other" (Africa, Asia, Oceania)
B) Americas
C) Europe

Then that means the WC would next come back to the Western Hemisphere in 2026. In other words, it's very possible that the US will host 2014. If it doesn't, however, don't expect it to return until 2026.

[photar74]

Originally posted by thepremierleague


ROFL. :rolleyes:

Holland and Spain have never won it in 30 years of great teams with far more skill, what makes you think you will.

Spain never made the semis.

USA did.

I also never remember Spain and the Netherlands improving from the bottom 100 in the world to top fifteen in just fifteen years.

I further never remember either of those nations having the thrid largest population in the world AND a GDP more than 3 times larger than any other nation on earth.

What makes you think that in twelve years the USA won't smack those teams around like Sadui Arabia?

Anyway...

Ti-i-i-i-ime is our side.

Yes it is.

[accion]

well it obviously isn't all about skill, look what korea did this tiem with a home crowd. if the us can get in the last 8 on foriegn soil, why not farther at home?? they have progressed so much in the last 15 years, and i don't see it slowing down soon. i think it'd be pretty easy to say that the us did better than england in 2002, we went out with style instead of looking incredibly flat.

[soccerdome]

I think it would be great to have it here in 2014. The diversity is what makes it a great place to have the Cup. And what's this with "unrealistic" dreams. The way the so-called underdogs are improving, Brazil, Italy, England, Argentina and all those other "powers" better watch their backs!!!
2014, HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thepremierleague]

Originally posted by accion
they have progressed so much in the last 15 years, and i don't see it slowing down soon. i think it'd be pretty easy to say that the us did better than england in 2002, we went out with style instead of looking incredibly flat.


England got to the semi finals in 1990, and were penalty kicks away from the final, yet did not even qualify in 1994.

Getting far once does not means you will be great 10 years later. England are still getting bashed today 2002 after 1990, what makes you think the USA will be any better 12-15 years time?


If you went by that criteria, Bulgaria, Romainia, Sweden, Croatia and Turkey would be world powers, but they are average now, and Turkey will become average.

I expect USA to stay average too, maybe even Senegal.

[Pirrip]

Originally posted by photar74


Spain never made the semis.

USA did.

I also never remember Spain and the Netherlands improving from the bottom 100 in the world to top fifteen in just fifteen years.

I further never remember either of those nations having the thrid largest population in the world AND a GDP more than 3 times larger than any other nation on earth.

What makes you think that in twelve years the USA won't smack those teams around like Sadui Arabia?

Anyway...

Ti-i-i-i-ime is our side.

Yes it is.

How typically Amercian...trying to dis a Brit then quoting the Rolling Stones!

Lets see, US makes Semi's as you so rightly point out but half a century latter can only make the Quarters. Hmmmn, By your logic, 2014 should see the US become the first host not to advance from the group stage.

What, BTW does population and GDP have to do with World Cup qualifying. Brazil has five and theri economy is no screaming hell as Mike Segroves likes to point out to FiveXChampion repeatedly. Also, How many Cups do China and India?

I think that you aging team has has its heyday, that your young guns pale when compared to those of the rest of the world. Good luck in 2006 cause you are going to need it to even qualify.

[Maczebus]

Originally posted by photar74


Spain never made the semis.

USA did.


In 1930.
And we get told we are living in the past!

Originally posted by photar74


I also never remember Spain and the Netherlands improving from the bottom 100 in the world to top fifteen in just fifteen years.

They didn't have to.

Originally posted by photar74


I further never remember either of those nations having the thrid largest population in the world AND a GDP more than 3 times larger than any other nation on earth.

What makes you think that in twelve years the USA won't smack those teams around like Sadui Arabia?



And, my god! Why does it always boil down to this?!
Size of population/gdp and whatever else doesn't guarantee success.
Senegal made the quarters like the US did, and Turkey made it to the semis. Brazil's gdp has never been a world leader but they dominate football, and have done throught the decades. Similar can be said of Argentina.
And besides, the US has had a large population and large amounts of money for a while now, and it hasn't stormed the football world yet, so whats the point in bringing it up now?
And if you want to measure whether the US has arrived on the world footballing scene, by letting the beating of Saudi Arabia be the yard stick, then go ahead, you'll be right up here with them, like Cameroon.

[Maczebus]

Originally posted by accion
i think it'd be pretty easy to say that the us did better than england in 2002,

Wrong too.

US stats: pl5, w2 - d1 - l2
Eng stats: pl5, w2 - d2 - l1

And the goals? US gd -1; Eng gd +3

[Haus Bilas]

I hate to say it, but you Brits simply don't want to believe in the US. This is almost the last major sport where the US hasn't competed very well internationally (spare Rugby). You just can't accept the headway that US soccer is making against the rest of the world.

There are a lot of 13 year olds right now watching and enjoying soccer, who will be in their primes at 25 in 2014. That next generation is coming, and from a HUGE population base. With the sheer size of our country, we will eventually become a world power IF the MLS can make it in this country... and that's the big IF.

However, your current attitude about US soccer only displays that classic English bigotry and ignorance.

Eat some humble pie boys... I'd say the US had a better cup than England did. What? A Michael Owen dive in the box against Argentina, and then playing defensively the rest of the way? How is that so different from our Mexico match, except that we didn't have to rely on a dive and a PK to pull out the victory? We had two very well taken goals. Your double standard is rediculous.

Carry on with your insults. They don't mean a thing to me because I know where they're coming from.

[M]

Originally posted by photar74


Spain never made the semis.

USA did.

I also never remember Spain and the Netherlands improving from the bottom 100 in the world to top fifteen in just fifteen years.


I'd say the progress that The Netherlands made internationally in the 15 years prior to their final appearance in '74 was rather more remarkable than the progress the US has made.

USA made the semis over 70 years ago - how relevant.

[Maczebus]

Originally posted by Haus Bilas
I hate to say it, but you Brits simply don't want to believe in the US. This is almost the last major sport where the US hasn't competed very well internationally (spare Rugby). You just can't accept the headway that US soccer is making against the rest of the world.



For god's sake, what is it with a stupid minority here?
We don't give a rats arse whther the US makes it or not!
If you do fine, great, well done!
What non-US people don't actually like is idiotic people that get massively carried away on minimal performance.
Stop thinking the rest of the world, and in particular the 'Brits' care whether the US will be good at football in 20 years time. Talk about being attention seeking...!

[falcon6]

I think 94 prooved there is no better country to host the world cup in terms of facilities and support. They will sell out every game of the tournament no problem. With the money to be made by FIFA staging it in the USA, it is a guarantee the US will get it. In 12 years, I think it could be the year the USA finally does it. Look at how far the home crowd took South korea and France.

[Pichi]

Originally posted by CrewDust
The one thing about a USA hosted cup is that ever country can get good support for there team. There won't be just 1000 people supporting a team.

If FIFA needs to fill their coffers then it will be held in the USA. The venues are huge, every seat will be bought, no screw ups by ticket agencies and with the large immigrant population every country will be represented in the stands when they play.

Saludos y Viva Er EuroBeti Manque Alfonso y Lopera!

Pichi

[thepremierleague]

USA does not deserve it so soon after 1994 and will not get it. Only the greed of Septic Bladder will take it to the USA.

England deserves it far more. The USA would have had it twice in 20 years, yet England have won the damn thing and invented professional football!

USA is one of the most undeserving countries on earth to host going by the ENITRE population, not the minoirty of soccer fans.

If USA get again so soon after the last time, and before England, I will be disgusted.