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locoxriver
24 Jun 2006, 09:53 PM
How do you guys see the team for the match vs. Germany?? It will be a really complicated match, but I think we are capable of winning..
Pekerman
24 Jun 2006, 10:07 PM
Yep. This is the quarter-finals. Every game will be complicated. I would love to see Tevez starting. That is all.
ForeverRed
24 Jun 2006, 10:22 PM
We're also very confident so this should be quite a match.
Probably the most difficult we've had in years. If we're going to win on home soil we'll have to go through the best teams.
If you guys start Tevez, Saviola will be left out correct?
I'm guessing Scaloni won't start this game either.
leoriver
24 Jun 2006, 10:23 PM
Its going to be a rough game,don't really think it will be a physical game which it can easily be but the germans are playing a very offensive futbol.Never seen before by the germans which this means it can be an open game.What we HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL is that the germans can shot really good from outside the box so our midfielders have to be very careful making sure the germans don't win their backs.I was watching the germany-sweden game and Ballack had like 10 shots on gol,either the keeper took em out or they passed real close.
This time I want to see someone that can relate with Riquelme either its Messi or Aimar.Aswell have Tevez start along with Crespo since the germans are tall and I think Saviola could be better coming off the bench if needed to.Game is next friday,meanning no Scaloni in the starting line up.
maxpepper
24 Jun 2006, 10:25 PM
--------crespo
tevez-----------messi
-------riquelme
that's all I ask
El Mandrake
24 Jun 2006, 11:09 PM
Bue! Local y joven y con carrera. Pero esto no se cuelgan de el arco estos attackan..que quiere dicir un partido mas abierto...y alomejor mas riesgo. Ahi que pegalos pronto y rapido, marcar primero pensalo llover goales. Toca lo y pegar....claro son mas joven y mas neviorsos la localia puede jugar le en contra..por presion estos se puede ser hermanos.....estamos lejos toda via y que hacerlo ala perfection.....aguante argentina
Dr. Know
24 Jun 2006, 11:21 PM
--------crespo
tevez-----------messi
-------riquelme
that's all I ask
That's what I wanna see also. I think Germany's defense can be exploited on the wings especially with players like Lahm going up so much. Their CB's didn't look too stable against Costa Rica but they have gotten better. Messi and Tevez should be the ones out there running at those defenders.
juanca
24 Jun 2006, 11:44 PM
uff! que dificil partido!
ze germans are playing amazin futbol at the moment, there is NO denying this. they are a major threat for taking it all the way, but, if anyone can do it, i think ustedes los argenTInos can;)
i think messi has to start. he is fit, and argentina will need him on the pitch in case roman has an off day. this way, pekerman no tiene que gastar una substitution.
Castroman
25 Jun 2006, 03:23 AM
Guys we need 2 center midfielders against the germans cause the only thing they do is shot!i would say Lucho and Mascherano up front should be Riquelme, Maxi, Crespo, Palacio Or Tevez and if ur thinking of scoring i would say Palacio! Saviola shouldnt start Burdisso Or Coloccini should start although i prefer Cufre! and i really think riquelme shouldnt shut down the fast breaks that we get!! because usually teams score from fast breaks except for Argentina because our play maker is too damn slow!
sohka88
25 Jun 2006, 09:14 AM
Palacio Or Tevez and if ur thinking of scoring i would say Palacio
Palacio??? Why? Tevez or Saciola are much better.
Iplayedforchelsea
25 Jun 2006, 09:58 AM
Wow, what a soccer game yesterday! Congrats Argentina!
Best of luck against Germany! The Germans look really sharp, but I think Argentina can beat them.
And I hope they do.
El viejo Matias
25 Jun 2006, 01:59 PM
Thanks for the congrats.
Anyways I think this game will certainly be difficult but not impossible if we can keep our composure and heads in the game. What mexico fed on is that they had nothing to loose, no fear, and a latin style of play not to diffirent in technical style as ours. Someone made the point that we need to close down long range opportunities early and i concur with that, but at the same time the germans have found a dangerous dou in Podolski and Klose and all routes must be kept tight and closed to these guys. I think we will have more time on the ball with germany than we did against mexico and that in itself could make this match winnable. However, composure is the key as we argies know it is often easier said than done because we tend to be quite passionate peoples and can get carried away at crucial moments.;)
smd9
25 Jun 2006, 04:13 PM
if we play as bad as we played against Mexico then we can say bye bye world cup, god i hope i'm wrong and i hope we play to our potential.:(
Castroman
25 Jun 2006, 10:08 PM
u guys have faith in Argentina or no? i dont care if its Scaloni or Passarella playing its Argentina thats what i give a shit about and trust me we can take on the germans the team just needs to focus its hard because every match is hard its a world cup they have a good squad and on home soil but we have some good players that can get the job done so dont say i hope and hope and hope hey! were gonna win this ok so be positive cause we all know what our boys are capable of
leoriver
25 Jun 2006, 10:20 PM
Faith in our team yes,faith in Scaloni hell no.Sorry but we have to play our best and theres no tomorrow if we loose.If we loose with our best on the field then thats it no excuses.I wonder what peker has on his mind but im sure he will come out with a good game plan.We got this far and the team knows they can reach the finals with a win over the germans.
hoyi22
26 Jun 2006, 12:51 AM
In my opinion, Pekerman is a excellent coach in Argentina. He brings a very good atmosphere to whole team. You can see all the Argentina's players round him up and listened to his words after 90 min against Mexico.
Why Greece won the European Soccer Cup 2004 even there were no stars in the team? Because soccer is not a personal games. It is not fair to say which players should start and which players should not. I think the best players should follow the strategy of the coach but not just show off himself in the match and just want to make his own goal.
Trust Pekerman, he will bring a successful road to the world cup champion!
Castroman
26 Jun 2006, 04:21 AM
In my opinion, Pekerman is a excellent coach in Argentina. He brings a very good atmosphere to whole team. You can see all the Argentina's players round him up and listened to his words after 90 min against Mexico.
Why Greece won the European Soccer Cup 2004 even there were no stars in the team? Because soccer is not a personal games. It is not fair to say which players should start and which players should not. I think the best players should follow the strategy of the coach but not just show off himself in the match and just want to make his own goal.
Trust Pekerman, he will bring a successful road to the world cup champion!
im just hopping that successful road doesnt lead to a 4-1 loss like last yr! not just that but were gonna be playing the Germans in the same Field we lost 4-1 on last yr
in da soup
26 Jun 2006, 08:58 AM
those of you asking for messi, crespo, tevez and roman in the starting line-up are speaking with your heart, not your head.
with four at the back, that leaves room for only two more midfielders, maxi and masche, therefore we would get outnumbered in central midfield because romy doesn't give us any defensive solidity at all, and maxi doesn't play in the centre.
playing that 'awesome foursome' only works if you leave maxi out, and play two central midfielders, but maxi is staying in the team, rightly so.
therefore it should be two up front, not three.
if lucho is fit, he is the ideal man, if not then it becomes an interesting question between cuchu and aimar.
i would be happy if either tevez or messi started alongside crespo instead of saviola, but we must remember saviola has had a great tournament, he just couldn't get into the game against mexico but it's likely peker will give him another chance.
my team:
pato
burdisso
sorin
ayala
heinze
masche
lucho
romy
crespo
messi
maxi
FWS93
26 Jun 2006, 09:01 AM
I think Pekerman will do what needs to be done to win.
i am nervouse as hell, i really wish it was match day already im a wreck:confused: buy in my heart i know Argentina will play at the level they need to play to win.
just like the last game, they did what it took to win and i think that going through the stronger teams will help them in the long run.
brazil or England can glide to the semi's Argentina will have to battle but i think it will build their confidence
ilovefotball
26 Jun 2006, 09:19 AM
we have 50% chance to win this game, therefore if we miss the opportunities to score goals as we did against Mexico, we are not going to win it. Germans are playing very well, but they haven't met better team yet, so it will be completly different game for them too. I think we must stick to our plan and i think Saviola should start before Messi or Tevez, but if it's not working then Pekerman must bring either of them no later than 60 mins.
This tournament is looking more and more like the confederations cup to me. man there is so much similar happening. In confederation cup we played or first game against the african game, we played very good 2nd game and scored one of the best goal of whole tournament, and that goal was team goal, and quite supprisingly it was our second goal of the match. then in third game we had tougher opponent, and even though we played better than our opponent we drew the game. then came knock out stage and it was against Mexico, Mexico score first, then we scored and we won in Penalties after playing extra time. then after we played Mexico we were thrashed by the better side, i hope this last thing don't repeats now. In confederations cup people were saying that we are playing the best football and we are going to win it, this time again it is the same case. man i hope this is me only bringing up things and nothing serious. but onething is sure till now, we play very good in Group matches but our game level decreases as we start playing knock out stages.
i hope Every player take this in mind and play the best game ever played, we need it. Roman must play more better than he is playing now, Heinze must play better, Burdisso must return, Masche and Lucho/Cuchu must work together very hard, Crespo must be very effective, Saviola must play the way he did in our first 2 matches, Pekerman must bring in Tevez and Messi before it is too late. if this all things works out then we are going to win it.