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[copaantl98]

It looks like you guys should learn to appreciate the style of American soccer commentary. European, Latin American, and American commentators all have different styles. Our American soccer commentators shouldn't really try and act more like a European or Latin American announcer. It's who we are. However, I should really try and appreciate the European and Latin American commentary as well. As for Chinaglia, I couldn't stand his mumbling. Tommy Symth on the other hand, was great. I always seem to agree with what he says.

[copaantl98]

Originally posted by Clanblue
You need tp pay attention to whats going on.
If you seriously believe what you have typed you don't know much about the game.
Any of the English commentators that are on during games shown over here are top class.If they aren't making the calls that you think then perhaps you are in the wrong..ever think of that.

On a scale of 10 i would rate any of the English commentators at about an average of 8.

On the same scale i would rate the native S. Americans at about an average of 8

On the same scale i would rate the American ones at an average of about 4.

During the world cup i watched several matches on the Spanish channels as i couldn't take the droll from the commentators.The only good one was that Italian they brought in to do the Italian matches as they knew their limitations.Pity they left that Irish fool Smythe on for the others instead of him.

I can see English commentary puting you to sleep though, i mean they stick to the game and don't give endless drivel about stats.

Nice analogy on how just because I have different opinions of commentators means that I don't understand the game. Heck, I can say you don't understand the game as well because of what you just said.

[skipshady]

Originally posted by copaantl98
Our American soccer commentators shouldn't really try and act more like a European or Latin American announcer. It's who we are.Well, I agree, except there is a huge room for improvement. We shouldn't pass off obvious problems as "differences", specifically the apparent fear of dead air. The need to let every second of air filled is really annoying. Let the game do the talking, I say.

American commentators often seem to forget that we're watching the game too. If Olsen makes a run down the sideline and fires a cross to the near post, they don't need to tell us that. If they just say "Olsen", we can see that it's Olsen doing all of the above.

[frightwig]

Originally posted by soccerfan220
5-8 EPL games a week? Jesus Christ, that's probably just where you live. Where I live I get one EPL game a week, except it's five days after the game, and EPL highlight show on thrusdays, one CL game every week there is one, one italian game a week in italian, mexican soccer on the spansih channel i don't know how often that is, MLS once a week on ESPN and all metrostars games on MSG or something, and most of the USA MNT AND WNT games

On my regular cable package here in Minnesota, I sometimes get one EPL replay midweek from Fox Sports Net, sometimes one CL match in a given week from ESPN2. Of course ESPN has the MLS "Soccer Saturday" match, and ABC/ESPN shows the national teams now and then.

This week I'm getting Inter vs. Newcastle in the CL. Next week is another undisclosed CL match, plus a replay on the 20th of the Aston Villa vs. Man Utd. match from this coming weekend. That's all for the next couple weeks, as far as I know.

Which channels in New York show the Mexican and Italian games?

Where do you see the EPL highlights show? I used to watch the program on FSN hosted by Lionel Bienvenu, but got out of the habit after the '00/01 season; when I got around to checking back it seemed to be gone. Is the show you watch on a Fox network?

[depor15]

Check your FSN channel on Sun. night at 10, that's when you get get it in New York. Mexican soccer can be seen on Telefutura, Univision and Telemundo and also on Galavision though I think less people have this channel.

Italian soccer can be seen on one of the RAI channels.

Also, some of the local Spanish social clubs in New york are good for catching La Liga games.

[Brownswan]

The style and content of US soccer announcing will change once ex-players like Wynalda and Harkes make their way into the booth. It'll happen, too. Alexi, in particular, is very much at ease on camera.
He's a natural for a media career after he hangs up his boots -- again.

[Justin O]

Originally posted by copaantl98
Our American soccer commentators shouldn't really try and act more like a European or Latin American announcer. It's who we are.

Incessant talking regardless of whether or not they have anything relevant to say, butchering of the English language and a desperate attempt to be cool at all times is irritating regardless of the sport or the nationality of the announcer (though I'm willing to cut some slack on the English thing if it isn't an announcer's native language). Saying that all of the above is "who we are" in America feeds some sterotypes that really don't need any encouragement.

[The Wanderer]

What pisses me off here is that the American announcers don't have a GOOOOOOOOAAAALL call. C'mon, during WC highlights on ESPN they played the goal call from the Spanish stations......so Joe Six Pack likes that $hit. I mean, it's an effing goal for god's sake, and it's football, there should be a release of emotion.

Other things that bother me about the announcing here: When a scoring chance is created, get excited also---the shot just went inches over the bar you dolt, that was close. When a defender or midfielder makes a good play, point it out---that helps the casual fan understand the 'nuances' of the game that make it special and different from other sports.

I can't believe that in the suburbs of Dallas, TX we get better cable packages than those in the New York city area. Fox Sports World(and FSW en Espanol) is an option on my cable company's basic package for $5 a month extra.

Now GolTV is coming out who will show every one of Real Madrid's games---looks like I'll have to get a satellite set-up soon.

To the Chelsea fan in the Poconos, look around for international PPV's--I watched Holland and Argentina on my package, and I also watched a lot of Euro 2000 too.

[frightwig]

Originally posted by depor15
Check your FSN channel on Sun. night at 10, that's when you get get it in New York. Mexican soccer can be seen on Telefutura, Univision and Telemundo and also on Galavision though I think less people have this channel.


This Sunday, it looks like my FSN is showing one of the day's four airings of 'The Best Damn Sports Show' at 9:30, following college hockey, and 'You Gotta See This!' at 10:30.

Last week, it was 'Best Damn...' at 9, and 'The Last Word' at 10.

Damn. Whose fault is this? Does the local cable company have anything to do with this, or is it all Fox?

[russ]

Originally posted by pjuk
It's always interested me since we had Ian Feuer playing for Luton, he was a fantastic player for us and still haven't replaced him! :)

Goodness me.....

I feel compelled to point out here that Feuer was a disaster when he played in the MLS.

If you enjoyed giant Ian,you'd be singing "There's only one Tim Howard/Zack Thornton/Kevin Hartman" if you got hold of one of these young US keepers.

Oh,and welcome to Big Soccer,sir. :)

frightwig:"Damn. Whose fault is this? Does the local cable company have anything to do with this, or is it all Fox?"

FA Cup week,so no EPL show.Check this coming Sunday.

[AFCA]

Originally posted by The Wanderer
What pisses me off here is that the American announcers don't have a GOOOOOOOOAAAALL call. C'mon, during WC highlights on ESPN they played the goal call from the Spanish stations......so Joe Six Pack likes that $hit. I mean, it's an effing goal for god's sake, and it's football, there should be a release of emotion.

Other things that bother me about the announcing here: When a scoring chance is created, get excited also---the shot just went inches over the bar you dolt, that was close. When a defender or midfielder makes a good play, point it out---that helps the casual fan understand the 'nuances' of the game that make it special and different from other sports.


Really... as long as Americans will post stuff like this... 'soccer' will never be big.

Who needs the whole 'goaaaaaaaallll' thing? If you are into football you don't need any of that ************ to make the game more fun. Total BS. Hearing an American commentator shout goaalllll in total xtc as the Galaxy of Los Angeles draw level against the Revolution of New England would be a good laugh though.

In Holland it is custom for TV commentators to keep cool at most of the times. They report as an impartial watcher, who will raise his voice only at a great move or amazing goal. At some big matches some of them tend to be a bit more tense.

On the radio however, it's a different thing. Someone posted some Dutch radio comment a while ago (Ajax-Milan CL final 95)... that's a whole different story. Those guys go mental as soon as the ball passes the middle.

[frightwig]

On Sunday the 23rd, it appears that FSN in Minnesota is again showing hockey at 7 (MN Wild), 'Best Damn' at 9:30 after the game, and 'You Gotta See This!' at 10:30. Apparently Fox has decided that regular cable subscribers in MN just wouldn't give a flip about a weekly EPL highlights show.

Thanks for your help. I'll keep looking.

[American40]

Fox Sports World(and FSW en Espanol) is an option on my cable company's basic package for $5 a month extra.

Jealousy abounds.:( Southern PA here, and my cable stinks.

[AFCA]

Where's my damned morning-after rerun of Ajax-Valencia??? Dammit!

[falcon6]

If you can put up with the constant media soccer bashing in the states, its not bad.

[skipshady]

Originally posted by falcon6
If you can put up with the constant media soccer bashing in the states, its not bad. Seriously. Until CNN gets rid of Grant Wahl and ESPN gets rid of Jeff Bradley and Marc Connelly, soccer will never get its fair shake. Never.

[falcon6]

Originally posted by skipshady
Seriously. Until CNN gets rid of Grant Wahl and ESPN gets rid of Jeff Bradley and Marc Connelly, soccer will never get its fair shake. Never.

That shows how few there are when you can name all 3 of them.

[Mike Toole]

I'm lucky-- Boston's a big soccer town. Fox Sports World just cost me $5.95 extra on my current cable package (I got a bunch of other channels that I don't watch, as well), and that makes up about 90% of my weekly viewing. The rest is filled in with EPL pay-per-view matches on the weekends (there's always a live match on saturday and sunday mornings, unless FA cup ties are happening that weekend), the occasional Italian game on the international channel, and maybe a mexican league game on telefutura. In the summer, add lots of MLS matches to the mix. Soccer Saturday is a seasonal routine for me.

I really like where the MLS is right now, and hope that it continues to gradually expand. My only complaint now is that ten teams isn't enough-- there are other big markets that desperately want teams (Florida should have one team, hopefully better planned than the Fusion or Mutiny were, and why not give Portland a team?). I think the New England Revolution's management is a little incompetent (especially when it comes to fan relations), but the popularity of the team is solid enough to make up for that shortcoming. Fairly unimportant mid-season games tend to bring in 7-10,000 people; "bigger" matches will draw 20,000+. And the MLS cup last year packed more than 60,000 into Foxboro, a wonderful achievement for MLS.

As for announcing, I like different guys for different reasons. As for American announcers, I've enjoyed Carlos Machado and Christian Bozzo's commentary on FSW's Brazilian and Argentine matches-- Machado speaks very clear English (both are bilingual), but can still easily do the "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!" call when necessary. The Spanish guys are usually fun-- I really loved the duo who commented on the World Cup for Univision, they were absolutely hilarious at times. I do like the dryness of English commentators as well-- a recent favorite remark was from the Man City/Arsenal match, when the commentator quipped, "The fans at this Main Road matchup are actually from Manchester."

[skipshady]

Originally posted by falcon6
That shows how few there are when you can name all 3 of them. Shows *cough Goff* how paranoid *cough both Treckers* you are *cough Jones* when you *cough Merz* have to *cough Dure* manufacture facts *cough Dell'Apa* to maintain *cough Lewis* your "American *cough Vescey* media bashes *cough Bell* soccer" delusion.

Overall, American media as a whole is supportive, or at least tolerant of soccer. Even guys who don't cover soccer are fans, or give the game a lot of respect, like the Sports Guy, Kenny Mayne and Wilbon & Kornheiser.

[falcon6]

Originally posted by skipshady
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Overall, American media as a whole is supportive, or at least tolerant of soccer. Even guys who don't cover soccer are fans, or give the game a lot of respect, like the Sports Guy, Kenny Mayne and Wilbon & Kornheiser.

Yeah right. What of Lupica, deford and Rome just to name a few. Not to mention all of sports radio. I think your the one who is delusional.