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Red Card
18 Jun 2006, 01:40 PM
Why are the center circles 12 yards in radius? (2 football line markers of 6 yards each)


The Laws of the Game, Law 1 - Field of Play, state that they should be 10 yards in radius?

http://hoflink.com/~npollock/field.GIF

leg_breaker
18 Jun 2006, 02:30 PM
They're not, they're 10 yards, as opposition players have to be 10 yards away from the kickoff. What on earth are you talking about?

Red Card
18 Jun 2006, 03:07 PM
They're not, they're 10 yards, as opposition players have to be 10 yards away from the kickoff. What on earth are you talking about?

They are supposed to be 10 yds, but they are 12 yds in radius.

The strips of different color grass are 6 yards wide. The radius of the center circles at the WC takes up 2 strips. 6+6=12. There are 20 strips, 20x6 = 120 yard length.

In contrast look at the arc around the penalty spot. The arc falls 2 yards short of the strip, because the radius of the arc 6+4=10 which is correct.

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Notice that the penalty areas are 3 strips (3x6=18 which is correct) and that the penalty spots are 2 strips (2x6=12 which is correct). It is only the center circle that is wrong.

lanman
18 Jun 2006, 03:32 PM
I'm not sure. Maybe's the stripes at the penalty area are 6 yards and the others 5 yards. It makes sense for aesthetic purposes with the stripes matching the features on the pitch. It can be difficult to compare the widths looking at the penalty area from an angle.

Red Card
18 Jun 2006, 03:35 PM
The strips all look the same width. I have to rely on tv observation because I cannot go out on the pitch with a measuring tape. It would look strange if the 2 strips near the center line were only 5 yards wide, while all the others were 6 yards wide. And if that were the case, the pitch would only be 118 yards long, 2 yards short of the official required length for a tournament pitch.

leg_breaker
18 Jun 2006, 04:38 PM
You're expecting us to believe that they have brought in 12 yard centre circles to make the stripes in the grass look good?

Red Card
18 Jun 2006, 04:56 PM
You're expecting us to believe that they have brought in 12 yard centre circles to make the stripes in the grass look good?

I didn't give a reason. You are giving a reason that imho sounds reasonable if it is the case that each strip is uniformly 6 yards wide.

bright
18 Jun 2006, 05:18 PM
I think it is safe to assume that the lines on the field are correct, and the mowed in strips are variable in width. Why would you trust that the strips are allthe same width, but NOT trust that in a World Cup they are marking the lines correctly?

- Paul

Red Card
18 Jun 2006, 05:52 PM
I think it is safe to assume that the lines on the field are correct, and the mowed in strips are variable in width. Why would you trust that the strips are allthe same width, but NOT trust that in a World Cup they are marking the lines correctly?

- Paul

Nothing is "safe" or "sacred" if fifa wants to make money. If a tv producer told them that the center circle has to coincide with the strips in order for the pitch to look good on tv, then that will happen.

There are 20 strips and the pitch must be 120 yards. If the center 4 strips are 5 yards each in width, and the 3 strips in each of the 2 penalty areas are 6 yards each, that gives 20 + 18 + 18 = 56 yards for 10 strips. The other 10 strips have to measure 64 yards.

So those remaining 10 strips could be 4 seven yards strips and 6 six yard strips. Or they could be 10 strips of 6 2/5 (=6.4) yards each. Maybe one of those scenarios, or a similar scenario, is the case. But it would be much easier to just make the center circle with a radius of 12 yards instead of 10, and leave all the strips at six yards. I think the latter is much more likely.

Laggard
24 Jun 2006, 11:32 PM
Now I've heard it all.

The damn circle is 10 yards.

Gary V
25 Jun 2006, 09:04 AM
There are 20 strips and the pitch must be 120 yards. Incorrect. The field must be between 110 and 120 yards.

But it would be much easier to just make the center circle with a radius of 12 yards instead of 10, and leave all the strips at six yards. I think the latter is much more likely.The center strips (through the circle) are 5 yards each. The rest of the strips are 6 yards each. Total field length, 116 yards. Width is about 74 yards, based on where the "optional marks" for corner kicks are positioned.

Twenty26Six
25 Jun 2006, 02:02 PM
Nothing is "safe" or "sacred" if fifa wants to make money. If a tv producer told them that the center circle has to coincide with the strips in order for the pitch to look good on tv, then that will happen.

There are 20 strips and the pitch must be 120 yards. If the center 4 strips are 5 yards each in width, and the 3 strips in each of the 2 penalty areas are 6 yards each, that gives 20 + 18 + 18 = 56 yards for 10 strips. The other 10 strips have to measure 64 yards.

So those remaining 10 strips could be 4 seven yards strips and 6 six yard strips. Or they could be 10 strips of 6 2/5 (=6.4) yards each. Maybe one of those scenarios, or a similar scenario, is the case. But it would be much easier to just make the center circle with a radius of 12 yards instead of 10, and leave all the strips at six yards. I think the latter is much more likely.

I've actually worked at a golf course or two and cut many a green, tee and fairway into fancy little striped designs.

It wouldn't be that hard to overlap cutting paths to produce uneven stripes on the pitch. I would estimate that the paths are cut 6 yards wide by using two mowers [each 3 yards wide] going in the same direction.

Therefore, it wouldn't be terribly hard for the two mowers to overlap a little more near the center of the pitch and produce a 5 yard strip instead of a usual six.

wufc
25 Jun 2006, 02:17 PM
What a travesty, who knows how many games could have turned because of this.