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Concacaf
06 Mar 2003, 05:59 PM
Estas son las algunas de las cosas que dijo

"Chivas va a ser el mejor equipo del mundo y Saprisa el segundo."

"Saprissa va a ser la base de la seleccion d Costa Rica, tal vez le vamos a dejar UN puesto para algun jugador de algun otro equipo"

"Vamos a subir el nivel de juego de Costa Rica para poder tener una final del mundo entre Costa Rica y Mexico"

"Saprissa no se convierte en sucursal de Chivas, no vamos a mandar a jugadores retirados aqui"

"Costa Rica va a ser la plataforma para nuestros negocios" refering to OMNILIFE

"Saprissa y Chivas compitiendo por el primer lugar mundial a nivel de equipos"

Man is he full of it.!!! He shouldnt say things which are obviously not going to happen!! His credibility is on the floor now!!

Only true thing he said was he bought the team because it will help his business.

On the other hand... its good to reach for the stars, maybe he will never get there.. but he will go far enough

sidspaceman
06 Mar 2003, 08:24 PM
Wait till RDL reads that.

Various Styles
06 Mar 2003, 08:40 PM
True, Vergara talks out of his Arse, mostly because he is new to the futbol scene but he knows how to invest his money wisely and run a buisness. In this case im sure both Clubs will not go back to having financial problems. Other than that he can say whatever he wants, his actions have proved to be better than his words.

LMvCP
06 Mar 2003, 09:13 PM
"Chivas va a ser el mejor equipo del mundo y Saprisa el segundo."

http://www.computerpannen.com/cwm/contrib/blackeye/lol.gif

thats a slap in the face. nobody really wants to be the mistress. They would rather be the wife.

"Saprissa va a ser la base de la seleccion d Costa Rica, tal vez le vamos a dejar UN puesto para algun jugador de algun otro equipo"

Thats feasable, but the Costa Rican player also wants to play in Europe, Mexico, etc. I think its more likely for the base of the national team to play abroad than in Saprissa or Alajuelense.

"Vamos a subir el nivel de juego de Costa Rica para poder tener una final del mundo entre Costa Rica y Mexico"

Not to downgrade Costa Rica or Mexico, but as a Mexican i would rather go through the trenches and play team like Brazil, Germany in the final and get crowned, than to play Costa Rica in the final. People will respect that more

"Saprissa no se convierte en sucursal de Chivas, no vamos a mandar a jugadores retirados aqui"

He shouldnt evenhave to say that..makes you wonder??

"Costa Rica va a ser la plataforma para nuestros negocios" refering to OMNILIFE

thats all he had to say

"Saprissa y Chivas compitiendo por el primer lugar mundial a nivel de equipos"

good luck!!!

Man is he full of it.!!! He shouldnt say things which are obviously not going to happen!! His credibility is on the floor now!!

I have said it all along... he is a clown. But certain people think I am hating

Concacaf
06 Mar 2003, 09:15 PM
He is currently talking to a big audience at the Estadio Ricardo Saprissa. Among the things I heard

Once again
"Costa Rica y Mexico jugando la final del Mundial"

"Vamos a ver que es mejor para Saprissa, remodelar este estadio o construir uno nuevo"

Im sure the Americans will be really happy if our stadium is demolished!! cause its pretty tought playing there!

Its really astonishing to listen to the radio... everyone seems to be extremely happy about Vergara! Saprissa ex presidents and other former and current members of the people running the team say he has the same vision of Saprissa founder - Ricardo Saprissa!!

Its funny how one week ago we were the team with the biggest debts in Central America and now we are the richest!

This guy Vergara can really talk!! People in San Jose believe he is the second coming right now!!

Lets see if he can back it up!! Lets hope--

Concacaf
06 Mar 2003, 09:24 PM
For the very first time Im happy there are Liga supporters.. they seem to be the only ones in Costa Rica who dont believe everything this guy is saying. If he accomplishes 50% of all the things he is saying that will be 10 times more of what the team would have accomplished without him in the next 20 years. So Im glad he bought 51% of the team.. I just wish he didnt talk so much and raise so many expectations.. but of course this is the best for OMNILIFE.

Right now he is talking on the radio.. follow the link.. Radio Monumental

http://www.cablevirtual.com/radio_broadcast.asp

LMvCP
06 Mar 2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Various Styles
True, Vergara talks out of his Arse, mostly because he is new to the futbol scene

I am surprised you finally admited it. I am proud of you :D

but he knows how to invest his money wisely and run a buisness.

Running a business and running a football club are 2 totally different things.

Jean Azcarraga (owner of Televisa) knows how to run Televisa and its 12 entitites, but he doesnt know alot about soccer. He lets Compean operate Necaxa and Teuffer operate America as they see fit. Its not in Vergara's nature to step back and let the GM/president run the show. He is like Jerry Jones. HE wants the lime light too much. Never have I seen an owner/president go on national TV and say.."we paid this and that?" When was the last time you saw Azcarraga go on TV and tell the press, "Yeah, we paid this months salary to the players". Does he want a cookie or something? Why go on TV and tell people what you are suppose to do and feel the need to be priased by the people?

In this case im sure both Clubs will not go back to having financial problems.

You never know.

Other than that he can say whatever he wants, his actions have proved to be better than his words.

I wouldnt feel so sure about that. He didnt have Chivas in mind when he wanted to build the JVC center. He did say and I remember that he wanted to have a 100K stadium for Chivas. And now it results that its going to be 55K?

HE promised Bianchi, Hiddink, Beekenhaker, Cryuff, Scolari, etc and failed.

HE needs to mirror himself after Teuffer or Martinez. Guys that keep thier mouths shut and speak after they know its a reality.

You didnt hear about Pachuca's football university and academy after it was finalized.

You are not hearing about America's probabale move out (moving out of Coapa)

LMvCP
06 Mar 2003, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by sidspaceman
Wait till RDL reads that.

:D

man that was good stuff

You know what I find odd....

A person like Hugo Sanchez, Manuel Lapuente, Cuauhtemoc Blanco, or Enrique Borja can say that they want to better the club or the national team and be amongst the best.... and it gets twisted and the press has a field day....


but certain people like Vergara say these things... and the press wont twisted....

Various Styles
07 Mar 2003, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by rdl674

I am surprised you finally admited it. I am proud of you

I allways Knew Vergara did not know much about Futbol, but then again very little Investors or even promotores in the MFL dont even have a clue.

Running a business and running a football club are 2 totally different things.

True that, and that is why Vergara has looked bad when making all these promises. The deal with Bianchi fell through because "el Virrey" only wanted to sign a two year deal which is not part of the Chivas Long term plan which calls for a 5yr contract. Beenhaaker did not want to leave Ajax untill he finished his project while Perkerman did not want to work with the Chivas coaches. Vergara ended up looking bad becauswe he sticked to the game plan and not his mouth.



Vergara could have easily payed any of the above mentioned just to look good on his word but in the end he did what was best for the club and got the staff (Hans Westerhof) that was willing to be part of the teams planification. Sure he looked bad but i liked that he did what was best for the club and not his ego.


He did say and I remember that he wanted to have a 100K stadium for Chivas. And now it results that its going to be 55K?

I remeber that the PRESS mentioned the 100k stadium but i never heard it from Vergara. I have seen the documents for the "Chivas de Corazon" project which he presented back when he was trying to buy the club and it clearly stated a 50k stadium.

HE promised Bianchi, Hiddink, Beekenhaker, Cryuff, Scolari, etc and failed.

You can say he failed because none of the above mentioned came to the club. However he did talk and negotiated with all of the candidates. It is easy to ignore the facts and call him a bluff or whatever but truth be told in the end Vergara did what was best for the Club.

Cryuff has been retired for quite a while and doesnt plan on returning any time soon, Hiddink like Scolari are riding on their World Cup fame and wanted to get payed just to show up (they were not willing to commit to the Club) Leo Beenhakker was ruled out after he decided to finish his project with Ajax and Chivas needed the Director Deportivo after having allready waited four months for him. Carlos Bianchi only wanted a two year deal as he currently has with Boca Jrs.

HE needs to mirror himself after Teuffer or Martinez. Guys that keep thier mouths shut and speak after they know its a reality.

Teuffer , ROTFLMAO.. Ho ho ok seriously.. I can respect Martinez because of what he has done with Pachuca but to say that Teuffer keeps his mouth shut, Buahahaha how about for the next SuperClassico Teuffer waves Chivas Flag once again.. Since we are pointing fingers, heres looking at you kid:

Qué siempre si...
+ América, interesado en Batistuta
+ Asegura Pérez Teuffer

http://www.tvazteca.com/deportes/futbolmexicano/2003/01/459917.shtml :D :p

LMvCP
07 Mar 2003, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by Various Styles
I allways Knew Vergara did not know much about Futbol, but then again very little Investors or even promotores in the MFL dont even have a clue.

i feel for Saprissa since one of Vergara right hand men said he wants to be thier president

True that, and that is why Vergara has looked bad when making all these promises. The deal with Bianchi fell through because "el Virrey" only wanted to sign a two year deal which is not part of the Chivas Long term plan which calls for a 5yr contract. Beenhaaker did not want to leave Ajax untill he finished his project while Perkerman did not want to work with the Chivas coaches. Vergara ended up looking bad becauswe he sticked to the game plan and not his mouth.

sureeeeeeeeee

Vergara could have easily payed any of the above mentioned just to look good on his word but in the end he did what was best for the club and got the staff (Hans Westerhof) that was willing to be part of the teams planification. Sure he looked bad but i liked that he did what was best for the club and not his ego.

sureeeeeeeeee

Its like Westerhof has been on your own personal wishlist. You didnt even know who he was and had to do a google search. Recommended by Beekenhaker... more like snubbed off...

i can see it..:)

Vergara: Hey Leo, do you want to work for Chivas?
Leo: I got a family to feed.
Vergara: I can pay you.
Leo: So can Ajax.
Vergara: Alright, here is the thing, i promised the fans that I would hire you.
Leo: I thought you wanted Bianchi?
Vergara: (sweating) Wh.. Whaaaaaaaaaaat? No wh wh wha what ever gave you th tha that idea?
Leo: I thought you said you werent going to hire anybody that has worked for America before players and or staff? I was thier coach once ya know?
Vergara: (sweating) (gulp) Wh Whoo ever told you th that?
Vergara: So what do you say? Can you coach us or be our GM? You also have to oversee Saprissa's operationd from time to time.
Leo: Where's Saprissa?
Vergara: Pleaseeeeee
Leo: Leave me alone...bye yo tengo prisa
Vergara: D4mnnnnnn! I have to get somebody from Ajax...hmmmmmm (sees the first person walking) Hey buddy, whats your name?
Hans: Hans Westorhof, why?
Vergara: Heyyy Hans, Bubbbbee, I am your white knight? yeahhh Leo told me all about you... he told me you are the man.
Hans: reallyyyyyy:
Vergara: YEahhhhhhhh sh iitt he told me you were a guru.. do you want a job
Hans: sureee, i was already on my way out anyhow
Vergara: Yippe Kay aye, Mofo

I remeber that the PRESS mentioned the 100k stadium but i never heard it from Vergara. I have seen the documents for the "Chivas de Corazon" project which he presented back when he was trying to buy the club and it clearly stated a 50k stadium.

Did you ever see that episode of Saved by the Bell when Zach and Jesse Spano are running for president and Jesse sees that Zach is getting the upper hand and she starts promising the world..."like, i will do this for you...."

That kind of reminds me of Vergara

You can say he failed because none of the above mentioned came to the club. However he did talk and negotiated with all of the candidates. It is easy to ignore the facts and call him a bluff or whatever but truth be told in the end Vergara did what was best for the Club.

VS.... call a spade a spade...

he promised the best coach in the world. It was after he failed when he said...."I brought in the BEST man for Chivas" He didnt say that...he said earlier that he was going the bring in the best in the world.

Those are all names that he mentioned and you know it. and said he was going to lure one of them in

Cryuff has been retired for quite a while and doesnt plan on returning any time soon, Hiddink like Scolari are riding on their World Cup fame and wanted to get payed just to show up (they were not willing to commit to the Club) Leo Beenhakker was ruled out after he decided to finish his project with Ajax and Chivas needed the Director Deportivo after having allready waited four months for him. Carlos Bianchi only wanted a two year deal as he currently has with Boca Jrs.

Then why were you so optomistic? trying to rub it in my face that you were going to have Bianchi as your coach and Bekenhaker as your GM.

Teuffer , ROTFLMAO.. Ho ho ok seriously.. I can respect Martinez because of what he has done with Pachuca but to say that Teuffer keeps his mouth shut, Buahahaha how about for the next SuperClassico Teuffer waves Chivas Flag once again.. Since we are pointing fingers, heres looking at you kid

criticizing the refs...(which we all have done including the president of the FMF) is a lot different


Qué siempre si...
+ América, interesado en Batistuta
+ Asegura Pérez Teuffer

"no negó ni afirmó tener interés por el delantero argentino Gabriel Batistuta, pero aceptó que este lunes iniciará pláticas para conocer detalles sobre una posible negociación. "

"esto todavía no es una realidad, no es una opción segura"

did you even read that article?

Maybe my spanish is rusty, but where did he say that he was coming?

I even told you he wasn't coming. You know how that story came about..A close friend of Batistuta has some ties to America and some other clubs here in Mexico. Without even saying anything to Batistuta, he tried to see if there was a possibility... you can say he wanted a finders fee. That story was brought up and shot down in less that 48 hours. When the word came to Teuffer, he explored the possiblity but didnt promise anything...

Funny how TV azteca (thier sworn enemy) twisted that facts

Be honest....how many hours did you spend trying to look for that article? Google betrayed you once again BUAHAHAHAAHAH

Various Styles
07 Mar 2003, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by rdl674

i feel for Saprissa since one of Vergara right hand men said he wants to be thier president.

What is wrong with that ?

Its like Westerhof has been on your own personal wishlist. You didnt even know who he was and had to do a google search. Recommended by Beekenhaker... more like snubbed off...

Actually i told you that i had heard his name before and thing is he had allready worked with Guadalajara back when Leo Beenhakker was Chivas head coach. Hans had a workshop for Chivas youth Coaches.

he promised the best coach in the world. It was after he failed when he said...."I brought in the BEST man for Chivas" He didnt say that...he said earlier that he was going the bring in the best in the world.

Yes i agree but to quote what CONCACAF said "If he accomplishes 50% of all the things he is saying that will be 10 times more of what the team would have accomplished without him in the next 20 years". So far so good.

Then why were you so optomistic? trying to rub it in my face that you were going to have Bianchi as your coach and Bekenhaker as your GM.

That would have been Nice but i never tried to rub it in your face. I did mention it but that was because up untill recently this was something you didnt associate with Chivas. While it didnt happen i am still optimistic of things to come.

criticizing the refs...(which we all have done including the president of the FMF) is a lot different

What ? Reff's did i mention this ? No, no i didnt but why are you bringing it up !?!? Hummmm...

did you even read that article?

I read the article and saw Teuffer on TV when he was intervied by the press, but that is not the point im trying to make.


Be honest....how many hours did you spend trying to look for that article? Google betrayed you once again BUAHAHAHAAHAH

Less than one minute, i just typed Teuffer and all these articles where Teuffer didnt keep his mouth shut as opposed to what you said "Guys that keep thier mouths shut and speak after they know its a reality" I would do more searches but why waste my time. I honestly dont care what Teuffer promises CA fans, i only concentrate on my Club.

Concacaf
07 Mar 2003, 05:18 AM
A review of Vergara's magical arrival and night!

http://www.nacion.co.cr/ln_ee/2003/marzo/07/deportes0.html

LMvCP
07 Mar 2003, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by Various Styles
What is wrong with that ?

saying that Chivas will be the best in the world and Saprissa second best in the world?

maybe nothing wrong by you, but if I were a saprista, i would be mad.

Actually i told you that i had heard his name before and thing is he had allready worked with Guadalajara back when Leo Beenhakker was Chivas head coach. Hans had a workshop for Chivas youth Coaches.

No, you said that you thuoght you had heard his name before but was not sure. big difference.

something tells me he wasnt on your personal wish list.. safe to say he wasnt on a lot of chivas fan's wish list. some of the responses in other threads and chats rooms indicate that.

Yes i agree but to quote what CONCACAF said "If he accomplishes 50% of all the things he is saying that will be 10 times more of what the team would have accomplished without him in the next 20 years". So far so good.

maybe CONCACAF expects less of his team and doesnt seem to bothered by the fact that his team will be placed on the back burner.

I would expect any America fan, Necaxa fan to get pissed at those remarks if Azcarraga had ever said that. I would. You can try and twist it and make yourself look good... but the fact is Necaxa and America are always up there, are always well funded, and do well internationally.. the fact that Necaxa wants to take the CCC serious and America wants to forget about it shows the independant minds that run those organizations. As an America fan, I am glad we are not playing it. We got criticized for winning the Giants Cup.

That would have been Nice but i never tried to rub it in your face. I did mention it but that was because up untill recently this was something you didnt associate with Chivas. While it didnt happen i am still optimistic of things to come.

this kind of reminds me of the story of the piggy sending for help saying the wolf is attacking, but in reality he is not there... then when he is there.. they dont come to his rescue.... how long are you going to believe the piggy? my rspects if yoo keep on believing..

i have criticized owners from time to time because they do effect our football and the way we operate the FMF.

We dont need anymore empty promises nor clowns in the FMF. If he does have illusions of running for an office... i hope to God he doesnt get it...because he has not shown me anything

What ? Reff's did i mention this ? No, no i didnt but why are you bringing it up !?!? Hummmm...

because thats the only thing you ever bring up. Saying that is your only reason you dont like him... BLA BLA BLA. every player, owner, exec, fan has blamed a ref at one point or another... but very rare to these refs admit on TV that they messed up and in this case he did

I read the article and saw Teuffer on TV when he was intervied by the press, but that is not the point im trying to make.

What is the point... that he gets on TV... yeahhhh they all do.... but does he look for it?

Less than one minute, i just typed Teuffer and all these articles where Teuffer didnt keep his mouth shut as opposed to what you said "Guys that keep thier mouths shut and speak after they know its a reality" I would do more searches but why waste my time. I honestly dont care what Teuffer promises CA fans, i only concentrate on my Club.

Sure.......

just keep believing empty promises... and you criticize others in the FMF and MFL for empty promises but you hold this guy on some pedestal

Various Styles
07 Mar 2003, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by rdl674


saying that Chivas will be the best in the world and Saprissa second best in the world?

Dont change the subject fruitcake, my question didnt have to do with that comment whic i have yet to see printed on the press or heard on the radio ? Anyhoo i was asking what was wrong with Vergaras right hand man wanting to be President of Saprissa ?

maybe nothing wrong by you, but if I were a saprista, i would be mad.

I wouldnt, they were in the same boat as Chivas whith the old guard running the team to the gutter. It is not like he is replacing a directiva that was doing a good job.

something tells me he wasnt on your personal wish list..

I am honest and i will accept the fact that he was not the person i thought would be Chivas General Manager, but i still like the fact that Vergara wants to appoint a knowlegable person in charge of the Clubs youth program and coaching staff.

maybe CONCACAF expects less of his team and doesnt seem to bothered by the fact that his team will be placed on the back burner.

Why would they be placed in the back burner ? Because Saprissa requires less money to invest in. Keep this in mind Chivas and Saprissa play in diffrent leagues.

I would expect any America fan, Necaxa fan to get pissed at those remarks if Azcarraga had ever said that.

Ohh now you want to compare this to America/Necaxa bro you should have not taken this discussion here. We all know about Necaxa.

You can try and twist it and make yourself look good... but the fact is Necaxa and America are always up there, are always well funded, and do well internationally..

Yet Necaxa continues to play second fiddle to CA. They allways get Club Americas left overs and if they have any good players they get taken away and sent off to Coapa. I dont even want to name names, the list can go on and on.

As an America fan, I am glad we are not playing it. We got criticized for winning the Giants Cup.

Bro, we dont care. This is Chivas/Saprissa not Club Televisa and friends.

i have criticized owners from time to time because they do effect our football and the way we operate the FMF.

I guess building a new stadium, giving players a better contract and investing money in the youth teams will affect the way the FMF operates so why critisize Vergara, because he overpromises ?

We dont need anymore empty promises nor clowns in the FMF.

I agree, Hugo Sanchez and Teuffer have this covered also Lapuente "Fracasototote". Dont worry I dont think Vergara can steal the spotlight from Televisas kids for too long.

If he does have illusions of running for an office... i hope to God he doesnt get it...because he has not shown me anything.

He does not need to show you anything, you are neither a Chiva nor a Sapissa fan. You are not losing any sleep now are you ?

just keep believing empty promises... and you criticize others in the FMF and MFL for empty promises but you hold this guy on some pedestal

I have never critisized the MFL Club Directivos for empty promises, as a matter of fact i would have liked to see Batistuta playing in a SuperClassico. Now while we are on the topic of empty promises, Remeber ROMARIO to America, instead you got his nephew Marcelo de Faria and what about once again Romario to America but this time you got Fantik < btw Where is he, i havent seen him ? oh and for a third occasion when Zamorano left to Colo Colo, Romario !??! Jeebus how hard did CA try to lure O'Chapulin into Coapa ? Too bad i would also have liked to see him.

Look i never hated when Club America brought in BeenHakker, or Alfio Basile or when they signed Ivan Zamorano. I like when MFL Clubs try to improve because it makes the competition and the league stronger. You on the other hand are knocking off anything that Vergara says or promises, even if it doesnt affect you. So what if Bianchi or Scolari did not sign with Chivas, they were not going to be a guarantee that the team would improve, the important thing is that he looked for and brought what was the best option for the Club. If all works well then fantastic, if it doesnt oh well we can try again, i can assure you tha for the past 30 yrs Chivas was not trying anything like this.

Concacaf
07 Mar 2003, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by rdl674
What is wrong with that ?

saying that Chivas will be the best in the world and Saprissa second best in the world?

maybe nothing wrong by you, but if I were a saprista, i would be mad.



Yes i agree but to quote what CONCACAF said "If he accomplishes 50% of all the things he is saying that will be 10 times more of what the team would have accomplished without him in the next 20 years". So far so good.

maybe CONCACAF expects less of his team and doesnt seem to bothered by the fact that his team will be placed on the back burner.



If you would only do a little research you would find out that Saprissa was practically bankrupt. As things were the team was not going to last longer than one more month or at least thats what different members of the junta directiva said last night on the radio (and that was a widely spread rumor which has been going around in the last weeks). Players, coaches, managers, etc. etc. have not received their salaries in MONTHS. We have not won anything in the last 4 years!! and we used to be one of the best teams in the whole of Concacaf in the last decade. What did you mean by "expects less of his team"???.. I tell you what.. there would have not been a team in 6 months!

Do you think I should be ashamed bc Saprissa to is going to be placed on the back burner?? Well, im sure 99.99% of all the people who read the remarks this morning in the papers concerning the Chivas #1 and Sapri #2 in the world didnt believe all that and its clear he is doing it to raise expectations and start filling the empty stadium we had every weekend. Anyways we all know its a lie.. cause Sapri would be #1 in that case ;) (before you start going at it.. its a joke). I guess you would be really "mad" that America was the second best team in the world and Necaxa the best?

Anyways back burner to what? Chivas plays in the Mexican league, its the most popular team there.. population in Mexico over 100 million.. population in Costa Rica 4 million!! What do you expect for him to invest more money in a team he bought for 4 million dollars or in Chivas?? He is not going to bring old farts to come play in Sapri and there is a limit to foreing players, so I dont see Saprissa as a back burner to anything or anyone.

We won twice the Copa de Campeones y Subcampeones de la Concacaf in the last decade and Cartago won it another time.. La Liga finished second twice.. so the Costa Rican league might not be as good as the Mexican but we have our moments and we have enough talent that along with some investment might result in a decent competitive teams.

So just let the man run his mouth off... Chivas got a new stadium, they have a good sport director. Westerhof trained PSV, Ajax and the Dutch U18 and U23 teams, so he might not be a world beater.. but he is good enough. Chivas is playing pretty well and they are economically stable. Saprissa now has become the richest team in Central America, it will get a "remodelacion de su estadio o un estadio nuevo" and it is not going to be bankrupted in one month.. those are the facts.. and Im pretty happy with that.

Just let me make this point clear again.. I wish Vergara didnt talk so much about what he is going to do.. but I guess it helps promote OMNILIFE so let the man be..

Mario
07 Mar 2003, 07:07 AM
interesting stuff!

LMvCP
07 Mar 2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Various Styles
Dont change the subject fruitcake, my question didnt have to do with that comment whic i have yet to see printed on the press or heard on the radio ? Anyhoo i was asking what was wrong with Vergaras right hand man wanting to be President of Saprissa ?

You say he doesnt even know anything about football. I guess nothing is wrong with that I guess.

I am honest and i will accept the fact that he was not the person i thought would be Chivas General Manager, but i still like the fact that Vergara wants to appoint a knowlegable person in charge of the Clubs youth program and coaching staff.

time will tell.

Didnt Promotora have Hans do workshop with Chivas' youth? no credit to them?

Ohh now you want to compare this to America/Necaxa bro you should have not taken this discussion here. We all know about Necaxa.

apparently you dont know about Necaxa. I had to explain to you thier history

Yet Necaxa continues to play second fiddle to CA. They allways get Club Americas left overs and if they have any good players they get taken away and sent off to Coapa. I dont even want to name names, the list can go on and on.

For your information, how many of them are from actual Necaxa's fuerzas basicas? There is this thing you know.. not sure if you know about it.... that parents have a choice to send thier kids to what ever school or team they want. Just like thier are parents that would rather send thier kids to Atlas youth groups rather than Chivas.

Many of the players were from America. Learn a little history first bro.

you cant name names because you dont even know what youth programs they came from.

but look at necaxa...going to 5 finals the past decade. winning the almighty CCC. placing 3rd in the WCC.

I guess building a new stadium, giving players a better contract and investing money in the youth teams will affect the way the FMF operates so why critisize Vergara, because he overpromises ?

you are a hipocrit. you were bitching and moaning at de la torre for promising scolari, bianchi... and when they hire lavolpe... you even thought to quit watching the mexican NT.

I criticize vergara because he over promises and under delivers. I dont know if you know this VS, but those facilties were not for Chivas in the first place. Business men are not on the news everyday and if they are..not a lot of people read about it. He is using the sports section for his own personl needs and promoting certain products (not football). The first time I saw Atlas' sponsor omnilife, i did a little report on omnilife for school.

I agree, Hugo Sanchez and Teuffer have this covered also Lapuente "Fracasototote". Dont worry I dont think Vergara can steal the spotlight from Televisas kids for too long.

jesus VS, you really are that piggy that keeps on believing bluffs?

VS, you know dman well you dont have crap on Teuffer? you can do your little google searches all you want just like you did your google search on Carmona and see that he played 6 games in 4 years... then i told you that was not true.

He does not need to show you anything, you are neither a Chiva nor a Sapissa fan. You are not losing any sleep now are you ?

from now on VS, be carfeful who you criticize VS because i will slap it back in your face.

I have never critisized the MFL Club Directivos for empty promises, as a matter of fact i would have liked to see Batistuta playing in a SuperClassico. Now while we are on the topic of empty promises, Remeber ROMARIO to America, instead you got his nephew Marcelo de Faria and what about once again Romario to America but this time you got Fantik < btw Where is he, i havent seen him ? oh and for a third occasion when Zamorano left to Colo Colo, Romario !??! Jeebus how hard did CA try to lure O'Chapulin into Coapa ? Too bad i would also have liked to see him.

Again VS, America never promised Romario. you are reaching son. google failed you once again. if you are too embarassed just ask instead of doing a google search. I know you have been keeping up for 4-5 years... but just ask... you know

]] You on the other hand are knocking off anything that Vergara says or promises, even if it doesnt affect you. So what if Bianchi or Scolari did not sign with Chivas, they were not going to be a guarantee that the team would improve, the important thing is that he looked for and brought what was the best option for the Club.

take some of your own advice. you were irrate when we didnt sign Bianchi for the mexican national team. whats the difference between empty promises from the FMF execs and Chivas Execs other that the fact that you are a sucker for both of them and fall for them?

if all works well then fantastic, if it doesnt oh well we can try again, i can assure you tha for the past 30 yrs Chivas was not trying anything like this.

you havent tried because chivas fans are content with anything so the execs know this and just take your money and suit up anybody. while some of yous criticize Cruz Azul's fans or America's fans for booing or criticizing thier own players and execs... they win. You see, that is what happens... people are criticizing Cruz Azul...but they will change personell and players and they will win.

Ricky_DCU
07 Jun 2003, 02:39 AM
Ignorant Gringo Alert:

What sort of budget does a team like Saprissa operate on? Considering that the salary cap for a team in MLS is 1.7 million US dollars, how does that compare to the elite teams of central america?

I'm just curious because I noticed that so many players from the Costa Rican national team are domestically based, but I think they clearly have the talent to play in Europe (maybe not the top flights) but Wanchope is a rare exception.

Can this Vergara guy pay more than they would get in say, Serie B in Italy?

PuraVida10
28 Jun 2003, 04:42 PM
All i got to say is that Alajuela is better than Saprissa....

efernandez9
28 Jun 2003, 04:53 PM
coach Pinto is gone! after 4 titles, can they handle that?