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ITALIA1982
16 Jun 2006, 10:44 PM
Will Brasil and Italy play in the R16???
If likely, who will avoid who???
Definetly FIFA will hate this senario but can it be avoided???

benztown
16 Jun 2006, 11:14 PM
My guess is that Italy will lose to the Czech and hence finish second in their group and therefor meet Brazil in the round of 16. From there however, I think Italy will cruise to the final.

Urban04
17 Jun 2006, 06:06 AM
Yes, They will, its very probably! But anyway I do not mean That Brasil will win WC this Year. From S.A. team of Argentina looks better than team of Brasil till now.

This olso depend on today´s results of "group E". In Case Czech will beat Ghana I am sure We beat also Italy for 60% : 40 %. In Case not, Czech will win over Italy the same result.

I predict this game (Italy vs. Brasil 2:1 for Italy to win. The same for Czech team vs. Brasil.

The reasons are: WC is in Europe, Brasil looked after 1st match not so good like former World Cups. Italy looked more organizing team.

ursula
17 Jun 2006, 09:18 PM
After today's group E games I'll have to say no, they won't meet in the round of 16. Basically all four group E teams have huge incentives to play for a win in their third games but with the Czechs so depleted due to injuries and card accumulation I see Italy winning, finishing first in the group, and avoiding Brazil.

SonicXT
17 Jun 2006, 10:26 PM
After today's group E games I'll have to say no, they won't meet in the round of 16. Basically all four group E teams have huge incentives to play for a win in their third games but with the Czechs so depleted due to injuries and card accumulation I see Italy winning, finishing first in the group, and avoiding Brazil.Unless we get an Australian upset tomorrow ofcourse :D

Excape Goat
17 Jun 2006, 10:35 PM
My guess is that Italy will lose to the Czech and hence finish second in their group and therefor meet Brazil in the round of 16. From there however, I think Italy will cruise to the final.

If that is the case, either Ghana or the USA might get through by winning the other game. Italy cannot afford to lose. They can, however, draw the Czech Republic. Anyway, the Czechs are down with their 4th striker and they also lost their best defender.

Reazzurro90
18 Jun 2006, 02:10 PM
If that is the case, either Ghana or the USA might get through by winning the other game. Italy cannot afford to lose. They can, however, draw the Czech Republic. Anyway, the Czechs are down with their 4th striker and they also lost their best defender.

I'm sure Italy will beat the Czech Republic. Italy will definitely want to reverse the common view after the draw with the USA. With the Czech injuries, I think the outcome will be even more evident. I hope that after that error with the USA, and the overconfidence we had, that Italy will be ready for the Czech Republic. I believe Italy learned a lesson, and I'm sure that will pass through.

And if Brazil is in our path, well, I'm sure Italy has the capability to take them on!

Redshift
18 Jun 2006, 05:06 PM
Ghana stands a decent shot of qualification as well, particularly if they play like they did against the Czechs.

Who knows what will happen.

AmericanBlackStarFan
19 Jun 2006, 12:27 PM
The Czechs will be depleted and worn out Thursday. I predict Italy will win and avoid Brazil...leaving either Ghana or the US to have to play them.

onpcguy
19 Jun 2006, 02:23 PM
The Czechs will be depleted and worn out Thursday. I predict Italy will win and avoid Brazil...leaving either Ghana or the US to have to play them.



I feelt the same too

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Rudiegirl5446
19 Jun 2006, 11:43 PM
But if Italy looses to Czech Republic & the USA looses to Ghana then that means there's a draw for 2nd in group e. With that, how do they decide who advances? I asked that question in one of the forums & asked if someone could private message me with the answer & no one has answered me yet. So can someone please send me a private message & answer that question?!?!?! I've got to know! Lol! Thanks.

My guess is that Italy will lose to the Czech and hence finish second in their group and therefor meet Brazil in the round of 16. From there however, I think Italy will cruise to the final.

johnsatchmo
20 Jun 2006, 01:14 AM
But if Italy looses to Czech Republic & the USA looses to Ghana then that means there's a draw for 2nd in group e. With that, how do they decide who advances? I asked that question in one of the forums & asked if someone could private message me with the answer & no one has answered me yet. So can someone please send me a private message & answer that question?!?!?! I've got to know! Lol! Thanks.

If Czech and Ghana win.... Ghana would have 7 points, Czech would have 6 points, Italy would have 4 and USA would have 1. There would be no tie for second.

Rudiegirl5446
20 Jun 2006, 01:29 AM
Oops! I meant to say if USA wins to Ghana, but what you said is still not correct. Right now, Italy has 4 points because they had a win & a draw. Ghana has 3 because they had a loss & a win. USA has 1 because we had a loss & a draw, & Czech Republic has a 3 because they had a loss & a win. So, if Czech Republic wins to Italy, Czech Republic would have 6 & Italy would have 4. If USA wins to Ghana, USA would have 4 & Ghana would have 3. So then there would be a tie for 2nd place.

Now getting back to my original question; how would it be decided who would take 2nd place in our group & advance? Can someone send me a private message (& you can put the answer on this thread if you want to so that everyone can read it) because these threads tend to be very long & I have a slow connection. Thanks.

If Czech and Ghana win.... Ghana would have 7 points, Czech would have 6 points, Italy would have 4 and USA would have 1. There would be no tie for second.

DEFENCE_FIRST
20 Jun 2006, 12:22 PM
Oops! I meant to say if USA wins to Ghana, but what you said is still not correct. Right now, Italy has 4 points because they had a win & a draw. Ghana has 3 because they had a loss & a win. USA has 1 because we had a loss & a draw, & Czech Republic has a 3 because they had a loss & a win. So, if Czech Republic wins to Italy, Czech Republic would have 6 & Italy would have 4. If USA wins to Ghana, USA would have 4 & Ghana would have 3. So then there would be a tie for 2nd place.

Now getting back to my original question; how would it be decided who would take 2nd place in our group & advance? Can someone send me a private message (& you can put the answer on this thread if you want to so that everyone can read it) because these threads tend to be very long & I have a slow connection. Thanks.

It is decided by goal diffrence. In other words goals for and goals set against.

Rudiegirl5446
20 Jun 2006, 05:49 PM
It is decided by goal diffrence. In other words goals for and goals set against.

Goals for & set against eachother? I never really got that whole theory & this is my 2nd World Cup. I was never really good at math either. lol! So this has to be broken down for me to understand it.

sidis
20 Jun 2006, 06:21 PM
Italy will beats Czechs and USA Beats Gana.

Brazil x USA (like 1994) and Italy x Croatia/Australia.

therealt1985
20 Jun 2006, 09:09 PM
My guess is that Italy will lose to the Czech and hence finish second in their group and therefor meet Brazil in the round of 16. From there however, I think Italy will cruise to the final.

how is italy gonna beat brazil in r16 if they can't beat a crappy czech team? in my opinion i think italy is pretty weak and i dont expect them to go to far, btw the final is between brazil and germany. 2:1 in favor of brazil.

Reazzurro90
21 Jun 2006, 06:27 AM
how is italy gonna beat brazil in r16 if they can't beat a crappy czech team? in my opinion i think italy is pretty weak and i dont expect them to go to far, btw the final is between brazil and germany. 2:1 in favor of brazil.

How would you even know about how Italy performed against the Czech if they haven't played yet?


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Rubbernose
21 Jun 2006, 07:38 AM
An Aussie fan here, and just to throw out a scenario I'd personally like to see. Seriously doubt it'll happen, but it's not impossible, and WC's have a habit of throwing up weird things;

Group E
Italy beat the Czechs
USA beat Ghana

1. Italy
2. USA

Group F
Australia 2-0 Croatia
Japan 1 - 0 Brazil (a Brazil with likely up to 7 or 8 first X1 players rested, mind you)

1. Australia (both 6 pts, equal GA, but Australia have superior Goals For)
2. Brazil

Rd of 16
Italy v Brazil
Australia v USA

You may think that is VERY unlikely, and it may well be, but it's really not out of the realms of possibility, is it?

Would love to see that eventuate, and I reckon it would be a marketing dream for the boys at FIFA too, so maybe the refs will give them a little help. ;)

NoRightFoot
21 Jun 2006, 07:43 AM
An Aussie fan here, and just to throw out a scenario I'd personally like to see. Seriously doubt it'll happen, but it's not impossible, and WC's have a habit of throwing up weird things;

Group E
Italy beat the Czechs
USA beat Ghana

1. Italy
2. USA

Group F
Australia 2-0 Croatia
Japan 1 - 0 Brazil (a Brazil with likely up to 7 or 8 first X1 players rested, mind you)

1. Australia (both 6 pts, equal GA, but Australia have superior Goals For)
2. Brazil

Rd of 16
Italy v Brazil
Australia v USA

You may think that is VERY unlikely, and it may well be, but it's really not out of the realms of possibility, is it?

Would love to see that eventuate, and I reckon it would be a marketing dream for the boys at FIFA too, so maybe the refs will give them a little help. ;)
Its not beyond the realms of possibility, but you are right in that it is unlikely.Brazil will finish top in group f with I think Australia second.Italy first in group e with Czech Rep second.So if we do beat or draw with Croatia, we will be playing Italy in round of 16.Japan could beat Brazil, but I seriously doubt it.I also doubt they'll rest that many players.But nice romantic notion nonetheless. ;)