South Korea vs. France [R]

[Cantona-the-king]

Hi everyone,

First, hey French guys show respects to your opponants. It's f@#$ childish to say we'll win 4-0, your team plays shit. Really these people should stop to smoke crack. It's the world cup, and things happen. It's true that Asian players play fast, and if u have seen the game against switzerland well... zidane and co looked pretty slow. Innit?

I'm starting having enough of all these bloody excuses Domenech, Henry etc have each time, it was hot (**************) <some teams played at 3pm, where they crawling?, the grass wasn't watered properly(poor kittens), we even had sunlight in our eyes. Well the Swiss played on the same pitch, didn't, were there any complaints?!! With all due respect to Korea, I really hope we win, because there is just so much talent in this team, and it's Zidane's last chance and he is someone who's so much love in France. Who ever knows football very well, knows that all these players plays in the best teams of the best leagues.... and they can't even score a goal.... and each time there are some meaningful excuses:( .

It seems that each time it's like that: Yes Malouda is injured, Ribery will start coz he played well.. ha no Ribery didn't play that well, he should be on the bench; Wiltord is great... na not that good,maybe Saha. Domenech should have had his team in mind months ago. It's not during the world cup that you try new things.. how can this work?! Tell me

Having said this, I hope that Sunday's game is enjoyable to watch, with some goals:eek: . I m sure South Korea won't play badly, because they like playing big teams and they know how to play. They have some good players who played in good leagues so show them some respect.

[ribery57]

I find it a little bit disconcerting that no one is willing to give credit to where Korea do best: stamina. We may not have the strikers that France has. We may not have the creative passers that France has. We're certainly not as strong physically. But the one thing that I'm confident Korea does better than France is lasting longer. French posters seem to be thinking that if they lose, it'd be because France beat themselves. But isn't it possible that Korea could play at a hectic pace, wear France out, score a goal near the end and win? Isn't that a legitimate way to win? I'm not saying this is what will happen, but it is possible. Stamina is a real skill advantage.

Or do French posters here think that France even has better stamina than Korea?

You're probably right. Korea has better stamina, especially Park Ji Sung and Lee who seem really impressive to me.

As far as Ahn is concerned, i don't like him : he took the games in Metz like it was training. He was never involved in the moves, and i doubt he could do us much harm, except maybe with a long range shot.

We'll have to score fast and then manage our time, or we may have serious problem against your side.

The key-facts could be the return of Malouda and a less awkward Thierry Henry. The guy should start to play instead of boasting with the journalist.. What a shame for us

[awmhamodat]

Malouda is going to start in riberys place.Same formation on sunday.4-5-1.Im thinking its a draw , and I have even more fears for togo.I think we can actually lose to these guys.

SOme people on this thread are way too confident that france will stack up the rest of the 6 points.But I dun think its oing to be easy one bit.ANd do not underestimate knorea.Theyre a fast team, and they could beat are old defenders.

I still think saha should start with henry , but we'll wait and see if malouda can do anything special

[Rima067]

I've already posted that they scare the sh|t out of me. (although I think I got the coach wrong!)

I posted it in maybe the swiss thread after we lost.

[prostock]

Its a probably chance that France will win this game. BUt anything could happen. and as for togo. I think, with no offence intended, that if Togo could beat any team in this group, its France. The way they play, and the way most african teams play, happens to be Frances weakness right now. Stamina, and speed. And there so unpredictable. The Togo/South Korea game could have gone either way. And Togo will have the hardest time against the Swiss because there so organized at the back, and the team just does the safe, slow textbook plays. Anyways I really do think Togo will steal points form France and possibly swiss.

[Soju Gorae]

I feel as though Korea should play patiently and let the French take the game to Korea.

We have to remember, Korea is in the driving seat in our group and the French are the ones who need to get 3 points. We should exploit this and play through counter-attacks. They push forward and we should expose holes in their defense using our speedy wingers. To use a center route in the midfield would pretty much be useless for us because we all know France's midfielders outclass our midfielders by a long ass mile.

[AfrcnHrbMan]

What are you guys talking about. Aside from Thuram our defenders are not old. I'm tired of hearing how its gonna be so easy to burn class players like Abidal, Sagnol, and Gallas.

[Nike.Air.]

Yes, France has a very big chance of winning yet didn't people say Italy will win 100% agaisnt Korea in the 2002 World Cup? But Korea won didn't they? So underestimation is a big issue for the France, and I hope they don't do it. All of us want a good game. May the Best Team Win.:D

[lost]

Our most skilled player, Ahn Jung Hwan, has scored 3 more goals in the last 2 World Cups than the entire French team.


Thats not hard, france have only scored at one wc post 1986, thats 5 wcs and counting

[sl7vk]

Thats not hard, france have only scored at one wc post 1986, thats 5 wcs and counting

That might be the dumbest stat I've heard to date. France did not qualify for 90 or 94, WON the World Cup in 98, and had a dissapointing Cup in 02.

More and more I'm hoping that we not only win, but start piling it on in this one.

[AfrcnHrbMan]

Yes, France has a very big chance of winning yet didn't people say Italy will win 100% agaisnt Korea in the 2002 World Cup? But Korea won didn't they? So underestimation is a big issue for the France, and I hope they don't do it. All of us want a good game. May the Best Team Win.:D

Well luckily for les bleus Byron Moreno will not be in charge of the game on Sunday :p.

[prostock]

Yes, France has a very big chance of winning yet didn't people say Italy will win 100% agaisnt Korea in the 2002 World Cup? But Korea won didn't they? So underestimation is a big issue for the France, and I hope they don't do it. All of us want a good game. May the Best Team Win.:D

Nike.Air ...Please, Please do not compare the last WC with This one... FIrst off, we had thousands and thousands of fans chanting and intimatdating the other team. Also we seem to play much better on home soil. Lastly, Our WC squad in 02 was MUCH stronger then the one we have now. Our midfield back then was solid, argueably the best in the 02. And now its......weaker to put it lightly. And also we did have luck on our sides as 2 Italian players got red carded ( 1, or 2 i dont remember) and if i recall properly we scored in injury time, also lucky, and any team no matter what that wins a game in OT or Shoot out is very lucky

[allezlesbleusno1]

http://lequipe.fr/Football/20060617_202117Dev.html

Barthez - Sagnol, Thuram, Gallas, Abidal - Vieira, Makelele, Wiltord, Zidane, Malouda - Henry.

L'équipe sera à nouveau alignée en 4-2-3-1

[3verlasting]

Do the French have any sense of modesty? The South Korean team is not as weak as everybody thinks it is. What ticks me off most is how the French think they will lose because of their own faults. Listen to yourselves. Does that even make sense to you? Why is it so hard to admit that another team just might have the upperhand in some matches, hm? That statement doesn't have to necessarily mean that the French are a bad team.

And frankly, nobody has any right to say that the French outclasses or outskills anybody on our Korean team until we have seen them together one-on-one. But remember, soccer is not only about skill. Just as any game, luck is involved, and so is the effective use of teamwork. We can't judge any team based on one or two specific games.

I am also quite offended that many people just automatically assume the Koreans will be beaten based on our one performance with Togo. I admit our team was not the strongest during our match with Togo, and I, too, was highly disappointed. However, do not underestimate us. If you think Korea will lose, then support your prediction with a logical, and I emphasize logical, statement. I accept constructive criticism. I do not, however, support stupid, automatically-assumed assumptions.

And offence intended, since this person didn't seem to care much about anybody else but himself, this is one of the most idiotic posts I have seen in this thread:
who cares if they have speed once they get to the ball they have no skill and can just wait for a french player to get there and take the ball away from them. we are the french every player we have outclasses and outskills anyone on the korean team the only way we lose or even to tie such a team will be our own fault (such as it was on the 13th of june) and not because we got outskilled or outclassed by any opponent... so no the KOREAN TEAM is of no concern to us the destiny of the match is in franc's hands its with all the talent we have its up to us if we want to win or lose

Back that up with a statement with logic, and I will consider it. And do please have some modesty. And for those who are planning to jump on me with name-calling, or anything of the sort, please take into consideration that I have not once said that our Korean team was better. And I never will. The sole purpose of my post was to let some inconsiderate people know that they should not make a fool of themselves with assumptions with no logic, and think that automatically makes them patriotic towards their country. It doesn't.

[sl7vk]

Ummmm... I think you need to remember what board you're on. I haven't ventured over to yours and can't imagine many French supporters have. I don't really see the point of coming to OUR board to tell us how slow and old OUR team is.

It all seems a bit little man syndrome to me really. I'll be interested to see how many Korean posters come back tommorow if they lose.

[ilv2]

Do the French have any sense of modesty? The South Korean team is not as weak as everybody thinks it is. What ticks me off most is how the French think they will lose because of their own faults. Listen to yourselves. Does that even make sense to you? Why is it so hard to admit that another team just might have the upperhand in some matches, hm? That statement doesn't have to necessarily mean that the French are a bad team.

Go back and read the responses, most of regular posters (i.e. fans of the french team) have displayed a great deal of respect for the South Korean side, as should be the case, and i don't think anyone has said the Korean team is weak (apart from that whole koreans never being skilled mess but that's not characteristic of the rest of the thread).

Actually, it does makes a whole lot of sense that we can lose because of our faults. Nobody is discounting that the Koreans can step it up a notch, but it's been quite clear from our team's recent performances that we've been playing at a very LOW level and way below our potential. If we don't show up and play, it's our fault that we didn't achieve a result is it not? It makes perfect sense.

Ummmm... I think you need to remember what board you're on. I haven't ventured over to yours and can't imagine many French supporters have. I don't really see the point of coming to OUR board to tell us how slow and old OUR team is.

Yea actually how many of us have actually gone there to post :confused:

[navid90]

ok poopy listen....you ask me "how does it make sense to you that the french team will lose to its own faults"... i say when our entire back 4 are champions of their EUROPEAN leagues (and i dont mean crappy leagues were talking germany, france, england, and italy) they play in; we have the class of makelele, zizou, and viera (not up to par as of late) in the center of the park.. THIERRY HENRY and DAVID TREZEGUET world class forwards.... our standard is SOOOO much higher than your standard that the only way we lose is if we play bad.... when a team filled with soooo much potential and skill performs to its best YOU are telling me that s.korea (no disrespect inteneded) can beat us? very few teams can beat such a great team and if anyone s.korea? my statement is oozing with logic! !!!

"nobody has any right to say that the French outclasses or outskills anybody on our Korean team until we have seen them together one-on-one." yes some korean out of the k-league can embarrass claude? really im not even gonna say anything about this statement cuz i dont need to.

" soccer is not only about skill. Just as any game, luck is involved" now your admitting that your team sux and needs luck to survive so u just contradicted what you said earlier.

so yes my statement is filled with logic and i will PROUDLY say that the french squad is superior to that of the korean squad.:mad:

[Nanbawan]

so yes my statement is filled with logic and i will PROUDLY say that the french squad is superior to that of the korean squad.:mad:

Which would make it even more embarrassing if we don't get a good result...

[prostock]

ok poopy listen....you ask me "how does it make sense to you that the french team will lose to its own faults"... i say when our entire back 4 are champions of their EUROPEAN leagues (and i dont mean crappy leagues were talking germany, france, england, and italy) they play in; we have the class of makelele, zizou, and viera (not up to par as of late) in the center of the park.. THIERRY HENRY and DAVID TREZEGUET world class forwards.... our standard is SOOOO much higher than your standard that the only way we lose is if we play bad.... when a team filled with soooo much potential and skill performs to its best YOU are telling me that s.korea (no disrespect inteneded) can beat us? very few teams can beat such a great team and if anyone s.korea? my statement is oozing with logic! !!!

"nobody has any right to say that the French outclasses or outskills anybody on our Korean team until we have seen them together one-on-one." yes some korean out of the k-league can embarrass claude? really im not even gonna say anything about this statement cuz i dont need to.

" soccer is not only about skill. Just as any game, luck is involved" now your admitting that your team sux and needs luck to survive so u just contradicted what you said earlier.

so yes my statement is filled with logic and i will PROUDLY say that the french squad is superior to that of the korean squad.:mad:

Yeah well the french team seems to have no chemistry. where was your "elite european players that play in elite european leagues" during the swiss game? yeah thought so.

Do the French have any sense of modesty? The South Korean team is not as weak as everybody thinks it is. What ticks me off most is how the French think they will lose because of their own faults. Listen to yourselves. Does that even make sense to you? Why is it so hard to admit that another team just might have the upperhand in some matches, hm? That statement doesn't have to necessarily mean that the French are a bad team.

And frankly, nobody has any right to say that the French outclasses or outskills anybody on our Korean team until we have seen them together one-on-one. But remember, soccer is not only about skill. Just as any game, luck is involved, and so is the effective use of teamwork. We can't judge any team based on one or two specific games.

I am also quite offended that many people just automatically assume the Koreans will be beaten based on our one performance with Togo. I admit our team was not the strongest during our match with Togo, and I, too, was highly disappointed. However, do not underestimate us. If you think Korea will lose, then support your prediction with a logical, and I emphasize logical, statement. I accept constructive criticism. I do not, however, support stupid, automatically-assumed assumptions.

And offence intended, since this person didn't seem to care much about anybody else but himself, this is one of the most idiotic posts I have seen in this thread:
who cares if they have speed once they get to the ball they have no skill and can just wait for a french player to get there and take the ball away from them. we are the french every player we have outclasses and outskills anyone on the korean team the only way we lose or even to tie such a team will be our own fault (such as it was on the 13th of june) and not because we got outskilled or outclassed by any opponent... so no the KOREAN TEAM is of no concern to us the destiny of the match is in franc's hands its with all the talent we have its up to us if we want to win or lose

Back that up with a statement with logic, and I will consider it. And do please have some modesty. And for those who are planning to jump on me with name-calling, or anything of the sort, please take into consideration that I have not once said that our Korean team was better. And I never will. The sole purpose of my post was to let some inconsiderate people know that they should not make a fool of themselves with assumptions with no logic, and think that automatically makes them patriotic towards their country. It does

Put yourself in there positions. There players are more skilled / talented then the us(korean). But if it was the other way around, wouldnt you start bragging and saying stuff like that?

Originally Posted by sl7vk
Ummmm... I think you need to remember what board you're on. I haven't ventured over to yours and can't imagine many French supporters have. I don't really see the point of coming to OUR board to tell us how slow and old OUR team is.

Yes that is very true. It is unrespectful to say the korean squad is unskilled and the french squad is old and slow.

[Nanbawan]

Yeah well the french team seems to have no chemistry. where was your "elite european players that play in elite european leagues" during the swiss game? yeah thought so.


Even if France were out after three games, these players would still be "elite european players that play in elite european leagues". That statement is objective.