Maidin [TRI:SWE, Match 4] Referee Analysis [R]

[MassachusettsRef]

Match 4

Ref: MAIDIN [SIN]
AR1: Permpanich [THA]
AR2: Ghuloum [UAE]
4th: Ruiz [COL]

[Englishref]

What a refreshing performance, after the Marco Rodriguez show. A game that was equally as, if not more, physical than the England game, what with T&T's constant diving in to challenges, refereed with a lot of common sense, and appreciation to the fact that football is a competitive, physical, contact sport.

For me, it was the most exciting game so far, and that was a lot down to the refereeing of Maidin, who allowed the game to flow wherever possible, and played lots of excellent advantages.

The red card was coming, and my reaction as it happened was it was a foul, and although the replay shows he got the ball first, it was another challenge where he's really dived in to clean everything out, so I don't think you can blame Maidin. Wilhelmsson didn't help his cause though, with his rolling around, and looking up to see whether Maidin had given the free kick.

My only complaint would be that Yorke should have been cautioned much earlier, for his reckless challenge early on, or for the foul on the halfway line at the end of the half.

Superb performance. And people think we should only take referees from major footballing nations?! Idiots. I'll give him 80/100.

[lanman]

In general he had a good game but he missed a blatant elbow from Ibrahimivch and could have sent Larsson off too given the new instructions on reckless challenges.

[HiFiRevival]

Thought this was by far the worst of the matches thus far. The red card ruined it. Two clear red card offenses allowed to pass by in favor of Sweden and a very clean tackle by John gets carded as a second yellow when he got everything clear and Wilhelmsson dove onto him. Wilhelmsson and Frings (Ger) should both be banned for the rest of the WC for their intentional faking injuries that slow down the game and bring it into disrepute.

[SouthRef]

Thought this was by far the worst of the matches thus far. The red card ruined it. Two clear red card offenses allowed to pass by in favor of Sweden and a very clean tackle by John gets carded as a second yellow when he got everything clear and Wilhelmsson dove onto him. Wilhelmsson and Frings (Ger) should both be banned for the rest of the WC for their intentional faking injuries that slow down the game and bring it into disrepute.

Respectfuly, I would have to disagree with this. I can't recall the "clear red card offenses" by Sweden, and I have to say that John's dissmissal was appropriate. Regardless of whether he got the ball (you could see him saying that on close-up video!), that does not give him carte blanche to use the other foot for a straight leg, studs-up tackle. Sorry, but that can hurt players. I think we all know folks who have wound up in hospital because a tackle like that went just a little awry. At this level, that is unacceptable.

I was taught a while ago that there were two things a referee must protect: the safety of the players, and the integrity of the Laws. If you do that, the game will follow along nicely. The players can handle that for themselves quite well.

I think Maidin did well here; the game took center stage, and the players accepted decision pretty well.

[Alberto]

In general he had a good game but he missed a blatant elbow from Ibrahimivch and could have sent Larsson off too given the new instructions on reckless challenges.


I completely agree. Ibrahimovich should have been sent off as well as Larsson for his cynical scissor tackle from behind. I really blame the referee here, Ibrahimovich was totally out of control in the second half on every set piece, corner or cross in the box he was constantly clearing out the nearest TnT player with a forearm to the back. The only refreshing needed is for this gentlemen not to be invited back to referee in the wrold cup. I felt he lacked presence and any authority on the field. His foul recognition was at times inconsistent and his missing the Ibrahimovich and Larsson clear serious foul play decisions was terrible.

With respect to the second caution on Avery John, given that John already had a caution and the foul was borderline, I knowing the match conditions would have opted for just a foul call. ''It was an exciting game, but the referee had nothing to do with keeping the match fair or safe.

[SouthRef]

I completely agree. Ibrahimovich should have been sent off as well as Larsson for his cynical scissor tackle from behind. I really blame the referee here, Ibrahimovich was totally out of control in the second half on every set piece, corner or cross in the box he was constantly clearing out the nearest TnT player with a forearm to the back. The only refreshing needed is for this gentlemen not to be invited back to referee in the wrold cup. I felt he lacked presence and any authority on the field. His foul recognition was at times inconsistent and his missing the Ibrahimovich and Larsson clear serious foul play decisions was terrible.

With respect to the second caution on Avery John, given that John already had a caution and the foul was borderline, I knowing the match conditions would have opted for just a foul call. ''It was an exciting game, but the referee had nothing to do with keeping the match fair or safe.


Well OK then. I didn't see that, but I guess I just didn't see that. It happens, and I am decidedly NOT on the FIFA list. I appreciate anyone else's opinion as to whether what I see or opine is right or wrong.

No matter what, the referee's committee has yet to ask my opinion on these games.

[SouthRef]

BTW - I STILL think sending John off for a second caution was a good decision.

I couldn't see letting that tackle go with a warning, especially with a crackdown encouraged.

[lanman]

BTW - I STILL think sending John off for a second caution was a good decision.

That decision was spot on - no justifiable complaints.

[GlennAA11]

I thought he let too much go, especially early in the game. But the players seemed to accept his decisions more or less. The two yellows were totally justified as far as I was concerned.

[Englishref]

BTW - I STILL think sending John off for a second caution was a good decision.

I couldn't see letting that tackle go with a warning, especially with a crackdown encouraged.

Agreed. The only thing he could have done was be more pro-active with the Trinidadian players who were launching themselves into every challenge recklessly, though fortunately getting the ball cleanly the majority of the time. John unfortunately, got it wrong on two occasions, and was correctly sent off for me.

[HiFiRevival]

Respectfuly, I would have to disagree with this. I can't recall the "clear red card offenses" by Sweden, and I have to say that John's dissmissal was appropriate. Regardless of whether he got the ball (you could see him saying that on close-up video!), that does not give him carte blanche to use the other foot for a straight leg, studs-up tackle. Sorry, but that can hurt players. I think we all know folks who have wound up in hospital because a tackle like that went just a little awry. At this level, that is unacceptable.

I was taught a while ago that there were two things a referee must protect: the safety of the players, and the integrity of the Laws. If you do that, the game will follow along nicely. The players can handle that for themselves quite well.

I think Maidin did well here; the game took center stage, and the players accepted decision pretty well.

Larsson's tackle was an extremely obvious red card, while Ibrahimovic's elbow should have been one as well since it was definitely intentional. As for the John tackle, no contact was made until the ball was gone and Wilhelmsson dove onto John, screamed bloody murder, looked to the ref to draw more attention, then screamed even louder. After minutes down, and a stretcher plus a bad fake limp, he gets back in in less than a minute and is fine. He should be gone from the tourney just like Frings for the same bogus crap. It's shameful that football "fans" defend this behavior.

[Alberto]

BTW - I STILL think sending John off for a second caution was a good decision.

I couldn't see letting that tackle go with a warning, especially with a crackdown encouraged.

Like HiFi said, Wilhelmsson made an Oscar winning performance out of incidental contact. If you watch the replay you can see that the contact was not direct, he brushed him and he screamed and laid in agony like the best Argentinian divers.

[Alberto]

Larsson's tackle was an extremely obvious red card, while Ibrahimovic's elbow should have been one as well since it was definitely intentional. As for the John tackle, no contact was made until the ball was gone and Wilhelmsson dove onto John, screamed bloody murder, looked to the ref to draw more attention, then screamed even louder. After minutes down, and a stretcher plus a bad fake limp, he gets back in in less than a minute and is fine. He should be gone from the tourney just like Frings for the same bogus crap. It's shameful that football "fans" defend this behavior.

Agreed, it detracts and bring the game into disrepute. Shameful behavior. If FIFA is clear about sanctioning serious foulplay they should look at the video and issue post match sanctions. This would keep the game clean.

[olafgb]

I did not see the whole game, so I cannot completely judge on the ref's performance. I like both teams, which allowed me to be entirely neutral. Discussing the ejection is entirely ridiculous though. The action has to be considered, not the reaction of the other player. Both fouls were ugly. It doesn't even matter if he hit the guy, the danger of the attack has to be punished. The first foul already had a darker touch in it, the second could have been straight red.

I am curious if those, who complain about Wilhelmsson would also be that strict with the T&T guy, who evidently faked an injury in the 90th and wasted one minute with it (which the ref didn't add btw.)

[Ismitje]

Re the Ibrahimovich elbow - he actually threw an elbow three times on the same play. When he didn't connect and/or get the desired distance from the defender he was looking for, he threw a third, much higher than the first two. No foul, although Maidin wasn't too far away at the time.

[Alberto]

Re the Ibrahimovich elbow - he actually threw an elbow three times on the same play. When he didn't connect and/or get the desired distance from the defender he was looking for, he threw a third, much higher than the first two. No foul, although Maidin wasn't too far away at the time.


By this are you saying there was no foul call and no send off for violent conduct or you believe that because he may have not made contact there is no foul?

[Ismitje]

By this are you saying there was no foul call and no send off for violent conduct or you believe that because he may have not made contact there is no foul?

Sorry for the lack of clarity - I was surprised that the fouls wasn't called on the first and second thrown elbows (contact or not), and very surprised no foul was called and no red card given for the third one. I couldn't believe he coud throw three obvious elbows and get neither a foul called nor get a card.

[peong]

Superb performance. And people think we should only take referees from major footballing nations?! Idiots. I'll give him 80/100.

Such a glowing review after the ref missed Ibrahimovic elbowing Edwards in the face. I think that if he missed or misinterpreted an incident that should result in a red card then his performance cannot be called "superb."

BTW what is the rule on tackles from behind with no intention of winning the ball a la Larsson?

[lanman]

BTW what is the rule on tackles from behind with no intention of winning the ball a la Larsson?

That should also have been a straight red. It's exactly the type of challenge that was highlighted as such before the tournament began.