Beasely "irritated" by lineup issues

[Nutmeg]

When has Dempsey completed a pass that led to a score? I honestly can't recall.

He started the goal sequence he finished against Japan.

[swedust]

So basically I'm worried about DMB's mindset right now, a confident DaMarcus wouldn't even care where he will play because he knows he's the man no matter what. Hopefully he will get right in the head in the next week.

Very astute. If these comments gave me any real concern, it would be this one (not him alienating from Bruce or disrupting chemistry, etc.).

[Say What?]

I know the 1st half he was kind of tentative vs Latvia...but he improved steadily in that match and by the 70th he looked something like his old self....beating guys off the dribble, passing the ball well, making good off the ball runs, AND tracking back. That version of Beasley is better than anyone else we have as an AM other than Donovan IMHO.

If he had repeated his performance vs Morocco, substandard for 75 minutes, for the entire match vs Latvia, I'd feel much differently about this, if he started well and then finished poorly vs Latvia, I'd feel much different about this. But he Finished far better than he started and I think that's important to look at.

When he's actually playing well, he's a must have isn't he? His upside is far greater than Dempsey's for this tournament.

You are trying hard. Maybe too hard.

I want him to be the old DMB, but he hasn't been. He has been a danger (to us), to a detriment when he has handled the ball. Sure, he can make up ground verus those weak teams we played, but these teams will punish his sad to pathetic attempts at passing.

To say he had to wait 70 minutes until he got some confidence against a team that had very litte ability or intention to pressure his side says it all.

It is not a defense. It is flat out indictment on your part. I understand you are doing it because you know how effectice DMB can be, and you are looking for something, anything, but your arguements lack merit.

This has been repeatedly pointed out to you by many sources, but you are not willing to see.

That is blind faith. That's all you are showing right now.

I can't live by that mantra. Not healthy.

Best of luck to DMB, but I don't expect very much form him right now. I just hope he doesn't make too many passing mistakes that will cost us.

[Onionsack]

BEASLEY is lucky he's on the team.

Yeah, i mean there were like 10 other guys that had a realistic shot of beating him for the roster. :rolleyes:

[monop_poly]

Maybe DMB's pissed because he is uniquely being thrown all over the field by Arena over the last two years as a by-product of the search for goals from our forwards, an oversupply of left mids and patchwork solution at right mid. Now he's one week from game 1 and he just might want some time to focus on how to approach that game.

I'm behind Beas on this one. Given the circumstances of THIS qualifying phase, he should know today if/where Arena intends to use him vs. CR.

[m vann]

Maybe teams and players have figured out Beasley and now he's marked out of games thus limiting his ability on and off the ball. Its no secret he had success in the CL in '04'-'05 and he was a major advantage for PSV in that very few players/clubs had seen him play, other than the '02 WC. While Beasley is my favorite NAT, he's not all that creative with the ball other than blowing by defenders and he must develop the creativeness so he doesn't always have to rely on speed. He has become better in this area but developing the other traits like crossing, quick combos, ect. will only make him better and harder to defend. I won't say he's one demensional but he is limited. He's a smart player and I have confiidence he can figure it out.

[Say What?]

I won't say he's one demensional but he is limited. He's a smart player and I have confiidence he can figure it out.

This may be the problem. Maybe he already has figured it out, and the fact that his touch and passing are sub par means he already has peaked?

I mean, whose touch and passing gets better at this point in their careers?

We need more players who can possess and pass effectively to help give a DMB type the service and room he needs to be most effective.

He needs to slash and dash with limited touches.

The more he handles the ball, and the more he is asked to pass, and pass one touch in the middle of the field:eek: , the more exposed both he and we will be.

Sorry, just what I see.

[Geneva]

What we all want from Beasley and Donovan is the same fearless, can-win attitude they brought to Japorea, but with 4 more years of experience and guile. It's not likely that we're going to get that, and maybe it's too much to ask. Beasley is obviously out of form, and Donovan plays with more savvy, but hasn't shown as much explosive, unpredictable play as he did 4 years ago. Maybe he's saving it up to spring on the Czechs & Italians.

So if we're not going to get this from DMB & LD, then who's going to provide it? Obviously, Convey, Dempsey & Johnson are the candidates. Johnson's form is not better than Beasley's, IMO. Convey looks primed and ready, and Dempsey has a chance. I hope we see them on the field, especially against the Czechs.

If we don't get a breakout performance from a newcomer, then maybe the improved quality of the team as a whole will be enough. But I think we'll need both to overcome the very high quality of our group opponents.

Bruce is seeing them all in practice, and I have confidence he'll put the best team out there, even if it involves some risks. That's no guarantee that we'll win, though.

[9 Rush]

Beasley's outburst will just destabilize things - there's no need for this kind of talk.

Unless it's a cunnigh plan to paint a picture of disharmony and fool the czechs into taking it easy.

[camasterton]

You are trying hard. Maybe too hard.

I want him to be the old DMB, but he hasn't been. He has been a danger, to a detriment when he has to handled the ball. Sure, he can make up ground verus those weak teams we played, but these teams will punish his sad to pathetic attempts at passing.

To say he had to wait 70 minutes until he got some confidence against a team that had very litte ability or intention to pressure his side says it all.

It is not a defense. It is flat out indictment on your part. I understand you are doing it because you know how effectice DMB can be, and you are looking for something, anything, but your arguements lack merit.

This has been repeatedly pointed out to you by many sources, but you are not willing to see.

That is blind faith. That's all you are showing right now.

I can't live by that mantra. Not healthy.

Best of luck to DMB, but I don't expect very much form him right now. I just hope he doesn't make too many passing mistakes that will cost us.
The "Eurogrind", the legal troubles, pride whatever ails him, DMB has regressed for sure. Heck, he may be even worrying if he's 2nd choice for left middie on the squad! Just wait till after the WC, there seems to be a great class of lefties coming up through the ranks. His place in the pool may be short lived unless he improves. Having said that, he does remind me of players who only need that one goal to start a snow ball's gaining of confidence and he does have a point about the importance of communication.

[roykemper]

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=sportsNews&storyID=2006-06-05T133147Z_01_L0534289_RTRUKOC_0_US-SOCCER-WORLD-US.xml

That's fummy, I"m irritated by Beasley's play........ I'm sure Arena is as well.

[m vann]

This may be the problem. Maybe he already has figured it out, and the fact that his touch and passing are sub par means he already has peaked?

I mean, whose touch and passing gets better at this point in their careers?

We need more players who can possess and pass effectively to help give a DMB type the service and room he needs to be most effective.

He needs to slash and dash with limited touches.

The more he handles the ball, and the more he is asked to pass, and pass one touch in the middle of the field:eek: , the more exposed both he and we will be.

Sorry, just what I see.

You may of hit the nail on the head. That's why i mentioned the quick combos and the crossing. He's better when being used go directly into an attack than being used as a "link" or when we are trying to slow the pace of the game down. He's much better when he's able to run freely and move himself into dangerous positions with and without the ball.

[JohnR]

How is Beasley gonna have the higher downside?

Just semantics here, we're in agreement only you think a "higher downside" means "could be worse" whereas I meant "the worst that Beaz can do is better, i.e. higher, than the worst than Dempsey can do."

[SoccerScout]

Beasley said he still does not know whether he will be on the left, right, center or even the beach.

That would be messed up if Arena sends Beasly to a German Beach during the games!!!

:)

[bshredder]

Despite Beasley's poor showings recently, I bet he starts against the Czechs. Not for his offense but because of his defense.

[Nutmeg]

Just semantics here, we're in agreement only you think a "higher downside" means "could be worse" whereas I meant "the worst that Beaz can do is better, i.e. higher, than the worst than Dempsey can do."

I would agree with this. You know that even if DMB is stinking up the joint in the attack, he's going to commit himself defensively. He'll be part of the game. You don't know that about Dempsey. He has disappeared for stretches, even against Venezuela (although my grief with that game was that he was so good when he had the ball, I wanted to see him demand it more).

[superdave]

btw - Beasley hasn't been close to horrific or any of that garbage. He just hasn't been his usually high standard of play. Below average for him is still better than any other option we have on the right.
1. No, he's been horrible on offense...terrible touch, and tactically out to lunch.
2. Anyone who thinks he's a better right mid than Dempsey hasn't watched them. Beasley is a complete zero offensively at any position other than left sided attacker. I'd rather start Josh Gros on the right than Beasley and I'm not in the cult of Josh.

[alocksley]

I would agree with this. You know that even if DMB is stinking up the joint in the attack, he's going to commit himself defensively. He'll be part of the game. You don't know that about Dempsey. He has disappeared for stretches, even against Venezuela (although my grief with that game was that he was so good when he had the ball, I wanted to see him demand it more).

I would equate Dempsey to Mathis last go around. He might not show up for portions of games, but he's got that unpredictability and nose for goal that could strike at a key moment. He's got to see some PT.

[Onionsack]

Maybe DMB's pissed .....

Maybe, just maybe, hes not pissed at all.

Journalists are looking for any crumb of contraversy they can find right now. Just look at all the stories on the wire right now. Many are just stories designed to make a story out of nothing. They take a couple quotes and then try and make them seem far more damaging or contraversial than they really are.


No body on these boards saw the interview or heard DMB make these staements, you have no clue what the context was. All he did was describwe Arena's selection policy and said he would rather know right now. Irritating? How did he use that word? Did he say it with a smile? Some of you people here are total douchbags.

Stop making a mountian out of a mole hill for christ sakes.

[Martin Fischer]

Is Beasley suddenly irritated by something that Arena has always done because he doesn't see it going his way?

Just speculating.