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Jose L. Couso
29 Jul 2002, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by Red&Black
mcowen's post reminds of something i often ponder about MLS crowds and i think mls fans have different expectations for behavior at football matches than most other places.

i am not saying i condone this, but personally i expect poor behavior at football matches. in europe most visiting fans have to locked into a section, even fans not in the "hooligan" sections are abusive and can turn ugly pretty damn fast. the number of coked out hooligans itself gives an atomsphere no US match has.

i have been to games in latin america where fan behavior is incredible--from the merely psychotic passionate (and drunken) to the outright dangerous.

i have never been to a club or national team match outside the US i thought was a very good "family" activity.

i am not saying this is how it should be, it is how football is.

bottomline, expect idiocy. in some cases it is a normally rational person doing something stupid, something we have all done at one time or another. others are folks who came to the stadium looking to make trouble, and those folks exist in every crowd i have every been in, sporting event, concert, whatever.

My feelings have been expressed above, but I will agree with this.

What is truly amazing to me, is that when I went to Columbus last week it was a family oriented gathering. It was surrealistic (This coming from a DC United fan who has taken his family to practically every home game in the last 6 years). But perhaps that is the way things should be in stadiums.

Topo
30 Jul 2002, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by DigitalTron
Ummm doesn't that sound kinda odd ... we "discovered" the 35 year old Gazza?

There hasn't been a well-known "discovery" like that since Alexi Lalas, or maybe the Americas.

Barbara
30 Jul 2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Jose L. Couso


My feelings have been expressed above, but I will agree with this.

What is truly amazing to me, is that when I went to Columbus last week it was a family oriented gathering. It was surrealistic (This coming from a DC United fan who has taken his family to practically every home game in the last 6 years). But perhaps that is the way things should be in stadiums.


I've got to think that there's some kind of happy medium between hooliganism and the kind of vanilla, pre-packaged crap that you get at Crew Stadium. Good lord, they run ads on the jumbotron DURING THE GAME! There's this stupid ice cream ad asks the crowd to stomp their feet for that kind of ice cream. AND THEY DO!!!!! It's idiotic.


I think most of the time, RFK is a happy medium. Whereever you go there will be drunken idiots trying to spoil everyone's good time. But please, please, don't hold Crew Stadium up as an example of something to strive for.

Z010 Union
30 Jul 2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by BarbDett

I think most of the time, RFK is a happy medium. Whereever you go there will be drunken idiots trying to spoil everyone's good time. But please, please, don't hold Crew Stadium up as an example of something to strive for.

Phew! I thought I was going to have to start writing chants to the high hair hits of the 80's and early 90's.

doctorjim
30 Jul 2002, 08:44 AM
Say what you want about Columbus -- the ice cream thing is a bit much -- but when Ali Curtis came over to the stands after the game Wednesday to talk to someone, no one gave him a hard time.

Lowecifer
30 Jul 2002, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by doctorjim
Say what you want about Columbus -- the ice cream thing is a bit much -- but when Ali Curtis came over to the stands after the game Wednesday to talk to someone, no one gave him a hard time.

What did Clint Mathis think of the garbage-filled cup of beer that was thrown in his face at the Crew Stadium?

shawn12011
30 Jul 2002, 09:36 AM
Between the line and during the 90 minutes all's fair. After the match try to respect your fellow human beings.

Cristobal
30 Jul 2002, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by shawn12011
Between the line and during the 90 minutes all's fair. After the match try to respect your fellow human beings.

Shawn, does that include Fat Tony and Talley?

dadman
30 Jul 2002, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by Cristobal


Shawn, does that include Fat Tony and Talley? Everyone has their Achilles Heel (Diego Serna :eek: ), but I'd say, yes, even them.
Sometimes it's hard to be evolved. Very hard (Luis Hernandez :eek: ).

Of course, that might be why my back teeth are ground flat.

dadman

Mike Marshall
30 Jul 2002, 04:56 PM
how the heck did New England get him AND salary cap relief for him without a lottery/draft/allocation/etc.?
I can't quite explain the mechanism that got him to New England, but I can explain the process.

Adin was not picked in the Dispersal Draft, but since he had a pretty big contract and he showed some promise, the league wanted one of the remaining teams to pick him up. The problem was that Brown had signed a rather large contract after Rosenborg (sp?) had signified some interest while he was still in Colorado. After his performance with the Mutiny last year, no team would take on the full value of his contract.

The league asked teams to submit bids on how much cap space they would be willing to use on Brown in order to assign him to their team. New England submitted the highest bid (...around $50,000 I think), so they got his contract. He counts for about $50,000 on the Revolution's salary cap, but the league pays him significantly more than that, from what I understand.

It's a case of the league wanting to accomodate a player and making up a rule that New England just happened to benefit from.
Oh yeah, and what about OUR first round SuperDraft Pick, Daouda Kante ... the Revolution signed him recently didn't they? Ummm where's our compensation?
I'm under the impression that Hudson waived Kante after he refused to sign one of those "developmental" player contracts?