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Maczebus
01 Mar 2003, 09:02 AM
Great idea to have this forum!

And it should...nay must include a curry thread. Or any Indian or general sub-continental food if you're feeling less specific.

There's a massive culture of Indian food in the UK thanks obviously to the sprawing hand of Empire.
Hell, the nation's (UK) most loved dish is no longer roast beef and Yorkshire puddings or fish and chips, but chicken tikka massala (a truly Anglicised version of ... well something anyway).

I wondered whether Indian food has had a remotely similar affect on the US' (or elsewhere) palate.
I realise there's a myriad of different cultures and their respective tastes over there, but how easy is it to find a good 'curry house' (using the vernacular)?

To those that already adore the taste of the sub-continent - what do you go for?

Typical Indian meal, and one that's bog standard:
Start with maybe a few poppadoms and various and sundry relishes (onion and tomato, mango pickle, lime pickle etc etc).
Followed by an onion bhaji or two, of course with raita on the side.
Main course usually takes the shape of a Madras (relatively hot) with pilau rice. Possibly a chicken jalfrezi instead.
Must have also, a naan bread (garlic variety, maybe peshwari) and a few chapatis to mop up with.
This is just the template for an acceptably cheap Indian meal. (leave out the desserts, a simple sorbet or ice-cream is the best after all that)
If I was feeling a little more rich than I usually do, a T-bone/rump steak massala goes down a treat, though it isn't done everywhere - but thankfully my local Koh-i-noor does it wonderfully.

What are other peoples tastes?
Give me something I should try next time.

PS, If you want to post recipes, do that too. Particularly starters.

RichardL
01 Mar 2003, 05:29 PM
Never been a hot curry man myself. Pasandas are more of my thing. Or butter chicken. I know plenty of lads think it's hard to have a vindaloo, but I've never found having my eyes stream while my tongue turns raw through pain to be part of a pleasurable experience. Everyone knows that tikka masala is not an Indian dish, but a friend of mine (half-Indian) also claims that Vindaloo was invented here too, pretty much in response to all the drunken lads wanting something hotter. She said that her mum (being the one who is Indian) tried a vindaloo once out of curiosity and found it disgusting due to the excessive amount of chillies.

My favourite curry house was actually in san francisco. To be honest the curries weren't spectacular, and they might have even only had one type of plain rice, but the place was a joint venture with Kennedy's Irish bar who did Guinness at $2 a pint. Pub-cheap Guinness-Curry, all under one roof. What a place.

I've also wondered why is it that you always have a few beers, then go for a curry, but never have a curry, then go for a few beers. There's no other kind of restaurant (dodgy kebab vans excepted) that is always post-pub, but never pre-pub.

Actually I've always thought you should have the popadoms last rather than first. Too many overdo it, having 4 or 5, then can't finish their meal - whereas if you had them last you could have them to fill you up if you're still a bit peckish.

Maczebus
02 Mar 2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by RichardL
Never been a hot curry man myself. Pasandas are more of my thing. Or butter chicken. I know plenty of lads think it's hard to have a vindaloo, but I've never found having my eyes stream while my tongue turns raw through pain to be part of a pleasurable experience.

Butter chicken is nice and if it's a Passanda, then my choice is lamb.
Though I've found you have to be careful when ordering that as a take out meal. A few weeks ago I got the said lamb passanda, and there was seriously 4 meagre chunks of lamb in it and the rest was sauce (it was nice sauce but not for that amount of money).
Madras is about as hot as I go. I get your point about Vindaloos and above. There's absolutely no point in injuring your mouth and all your senses in attempting to eat something that (as you rightly point out) no self-repecting Indian would touch with a ten-foot barge pole. I beleive there are hotter curries than that, which actually beggars belief. So if in doubt, and confronted with a menu that includes either a Tindaloo (slightly different spelling which leads me to believe your story that the vindaloo was invented here) or a Phal, then avoid them. They will cause pain and misery on a scale not normal for foodstuffs, for an extended period of time.

Originally posted by RichardL

Actually I've always thought you should have the popadoms last rather than first. Too many overdo it, having 4 or 5, then can't finish their meal - whereas if you had them last you could have them to fill you up if you're still a bit peckish.

Sorry but you're just plain wrong.

I treat them as an appetiser. The trick is to restrain yourself. It's a bit like the bottomless bowl of chicken and sweetcorn soup with prawn crackers that the local chinese serves up. Got to have a certain amount of will power to not satiate your hunger with the first course.

Ideally you'd be right, one should eat them after the other stuff. But seriously, they wouldn't get a look in after the good part of the meal. They need to be incorporated somewhere, and the beginning is the place.

MikeLastort2
02 Mar 2003, 09:04 AM
We went to this market in New York over Christmas

http://www.kalustyans.com

The store is located on Lex, in between 28th and 29th.

The selection of curries, chutneys, rice, etc etc etc at this place is amazing. If you love curry and live in the New York area, stop in and check the store out. They have a good deli upstairs too, with all sorts of different prepared foods.

Maczebus
02 Mar 2003, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by MikeLastort2
We went to this market in New York over Christmas

http://www.kalustyans.com

The store is located on Lex, in between 28th and 29th.


It raised a smile on my face to see that Branston pickle is listed on their site.

Whilst it is a chutney so to speak, I find it very difficult to take onboard as 'ethnic'. It's ethnicity goes as far as calling turnip - 'rutabaga' on the ingredients list.

I was brought up on this stuff.
My parents split up and I lived with my dad, who couldn't cook if his life (or mine, more realistically) depended on it.
Consequently many sandwiches were had during that period.
I highly recommend it lavishly dolloped upon a cheese sandwich (the crunchy, thick-cut type, not the 'made for sandwich, ********** fine cut' stuff).

Ahhh, the taste of a broken childhood.

nicodemus
02 Mar 2003, 10:02 PM
I'm getting homecooked Punjabi food tomorrow! My friend's mom makes the best Indian food I've ever had...I will report back tomorrow :D

JackTown55
03 Mar 2003, 05:45 AM
I dated a girl whose parents were from India my last 2 years of High school and ate with her family a couple of times. I also ate at the Indian restaurants in Jackson and one was horrible and the other was better. Not a big fan eventhough I like spice, but for some reason not my thing.

Also where I've been Indian food hasn't really been a big hit in the U.S. like say Chinese or Mexican which is everywhere.

Captain Splarg
03 Mar 2003, 05:59 AM
nothing beat a nice Phal. I've never had Phal while sober oddly enough... (is it possible to order sober?)


I like Balti a lot as well as tikka masala.

I think I'm the only person i know that doesn't really care for Korma.

Premium Hamatachi redded
03 Mar 2003, 06:02 PM
i just cooked curry last night. it's great to stimulate your nerve.

LomaB8
04 Mar 2003, 01:44 AM
Paneer Makhani is the best, but I guess that's not technically a curry? Would some one care to explain what qualifies as a curry with regards to Indian food? (Butter chicken sauce with those pressed cheese cubes instead of chicken). We (my boyfriend and I) love Indian food. The best part is that many of the dishes are vegetarian to begin with so the food doesn't taste like its missing anything without it.

We also get Patak's curry in a can here. Its great for quick meals. But there aren't any Makhani dishes and unfortunately their recipe book club in only available to residents of the UK and Ireland. Australia has their very own Patak's recipe club but not Canada. We can also get a Canadian brand of curry in a can but its too watery and not as good as Pataks.

Tasty Bite is a brand imported from India which is really what hooked us into having Indian food at home. We used to go to an all you can eat vegetarian buffet once aweek until we moved out of walking distance.

We also just discovered Asian Home Gourmet packets which are basically spice pastes that you heat with other ingredients. They have a Makhani spice paste which isn't bad.

We also get Thai curries in a can, Massuman is the one my boyfriend likes best so its the only one we've had. (I'm not a huge fan of coconut curries, but Massuman's great).

skipshady
04 Mar 2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Premium Hamatachi
i just cooked curry last night. it's great to stimulate your nerve. I'm in the mood for some curry now. Thanks.

I assume most of you here haven't had Japanese-style curry. It's more stew-like than Indian or Thai curry and served with Japanese rice. Good stuff.

It's pretty easy to make. You can find curry roux in most Oriental or Japanese grocers (or regular grocery stores in many cities) and you just cook it with your choice of meats and vegetables. I like to use beef, carrots, potatoes and onions with apple and basil for added flavor.

Captain Splarg
04 Mar 2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by skipshady

I assume most of you here haven't had Japanese-style curry. It's more stew-like than Indian or Thai curry and served with Japanese rice. Good stuff.


I've had it.... It's Wonderful.

tasty tasty tasty

Richter Boy
04 Mar 2003, 04:48 PM
Adam Curry had nice hair. Not quite a mullet, yet almost there.

appoo
05 Mar 2003, 01:36 AM
if your looking for a good Indian restraunt then head on down to State College, Pa (Penn State) and on to Calder Way. It's called the Indian Pavillion and one of the best Indian restraunts I've ever eaten. and I've tried Indian restraunts all over the country. Plus I'm Indian so I know good Indian food when I eat it :)

nicodemus
06 Mar 2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by appooOnU
if your looking for a good Indian restraunt then head on down to State College, Pa (Penn State) and on to Calder Way. It's called the Indian Pavillion and one of the best Indian restraunts I've ever eaten. and I've tried Indian restraunts all over the country. Plus I'm Indian so I know good Indian food when I eat it :) ahh, but there are many different kinds of Indian food...

Matt Clark
07 Mar 2003, 08:12 AM
Lamb Dopiaza from the Surngagow on Aighburth Road here in Liverpool. Unbeatable.

Best Indian Restaurant in the North of England, five years straight.

Captain Splarg
07 Mar 2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Matt Clark
Lamb Dopiaza from the Surngagow on Aighburth Road here in Liverpool. Unbeatable.

Best Indian Restaurant in the North of England, five years straight.

I'll be in Liverpool on March 23'rd. i'll try to talk some people into going there.

skipshady
07 Mar 2003, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by nicodemus
ahh, but there are many different kinds of Indian food... and there are curries from different countries. I kill, maim and pillage for good Burmese curry.

nicodemus
07 Mar 2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
and there are curries from different countries. I kill, maim and pillage for good Burmese curry. We've got an awesome Thai curry place here :D

Premium Hamatachi redded
09 Mar 2003, 02:32 AM
when did we import curry from india and how did it become so common in japan?