Brazil 1970 Formation?

[lotfilms]

Would anyone happen to the 1970 Braziliian team's formation (the team second only to the 1958 class/skill wise)?


I thinking somewhere along the lines of:



-----------------Felix------------------\
-----------Brito-----Piazza-------------- Defense
C. Alberto-------------------Everaldo---/

--Clodoaldo
------------Gerson
--------------------Rivelino (as a false left winger?)


Jairzinho(as a right winger?)--Pele--Tostao




????
But I'm not really too sure. can anyone help?

[Ombak]

Would anyone happen to the 1970 Braziliian team's formation (the team second only to the 1958 class/skill wise)?Essentially it was:

----- Clodoaldo ----- Gérson -----

------------ Pelé ------------

Jairzinho ---- Tostão ---- Rivelino

But only Jairzinho was really an out-and-out forward. Tostão was a number 10 for his club - not a center-forward and Rivelino was a withdrawn left-wing here and a number 10 for his club.

Similarly Gerson and Clodoaldo, while both deep-lying midfielders on paper, had very different roles.

While some people would refer to it as a 4-3-3 it was really a very flexible midfield where Pelé, Gérson, Tostão and Rivelino all played on both sides of the ball. Curiously, Clodoaldo, the one who played almost exclusively on the defensive side, scored his only career goal for Brazil at the World Cup, whereas Jairzinho of course scored in every game.

Also, Piazza, on the backline, was a defensive midfielder for his club who was converted to central defense.

[lotfilms]

Regarding Pelé being in midfield... shouldn't he be a more inlying forward, like a second-striker? Also, should Rivelino perhaps be a false foward, or false winger, like Zagallo in 58?

Or is it that Pelé, Rivelino, and Tostao were all second-strikers, contributing to the play (thereby making it more free flowing), and ossacionally getting a shot on goal?


Finally wan't Gerson more in the center?

[Ombak]

Regarding Pelé being in midfield... shouldn't he be a more inlying forward, like a second-striker? Also, should Rivelino perhaps be a false foward, or false winger, like Zagallo in 58?Yes, Rivelino essentially became a midfielder. Pelé was not limited to being a second-striker in 1970 and it was indeed a very free-flowing formation for those guys.Finally wan't Gerson more in the center?Yes, essentially he was a Pirlo type player.

[dor02]

Where would Paulo Cesar play whenever he was on?

[lotfilms]

Where would Paulo Cesar play whenever he was on?
I think he took Gerson's place against England.

Alsok Ombak, thanks a bunhc!

[Kubala]

Curiously, Clodoaldo, the one who played almost exclusively on the defensive side, scored his only career goal for Brazil at the World Cup, whereas Jairzinho of course scored in every game.

How good was Clodoaldo as a player, looking at his whole career?
I know he played a great WC1970 but I don't know whether it might be something exceptional (there have been several players who played a tournament much over their real skill level, like Fontaine in WC1958 or Schillaci in WC1990) or he was really a very good player.
Same, I don't know why it seemed to disappear at an international level after the WC ... injuries or whatever else?

[Excape Goat]

I think Tostoa lined up as the striker, but played on the wing or midfield throughout the game.

[Ombak]

I think Tostoa lined up as the striker, but played on the wing or midfield throughout the game.Yeah, as you can see form where he ended up during the play that lead to the goal against England. Tostao's job was all about creating space for others, hustling, sacrificing for the team. He might have a similar physical shape to Romario, but his game was the polar opposite.

He still scored a few goals though.

In fact everyone in that midfield and forward starting set scored during the World Cup.

[Gregoriak]

How good was Clodoaldo as a player, looking at his whole career?
I know he played a great WC1970 but I don't know whether it might be something exceptional (there have been several players who played a tournament much over their real skill level, like Fontaine in WC1958 or Schillaci in WC1990) or he was really a very good player.
Same, I don't know why it seemed to disappear at an international level after the WC ... injuries or whatever else?


I asked myself the same question about a year ago and started a thread down in the Brazil forum. You can check it here. (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170434)

[Kubala]

I asked myself the same question about a year ago and started a thread down in the Brazil forum. You can check it here. (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170434)

Thank you VM, Gregoriak :)

[Affliction]

Probably the most interesting role in this team was that of Rivelino. He was always an amazing player but it was in this World Cup that he secured his status as one of the greatest players of all time. I think it was Marradona who once said "People came to the Mexico World Cup watch Pele, instead they saw Rivelino." He'd start out on the left and essentially play wherever he wanted, and would cut in and hit some ferocious shots from the centre.

The only player I've ever heard of in this team was Clodoaldo. To be honest he was the only one that didn't gain immortality from that that team.

[Kubala]

The only player I've ever heard of in this team was Clodoaldo. To be honest he was the only one that didn't gain immortality from that that team.

Well, not, according all journalists who attended the WC1970, Clodoaldo was fundamental for the team and played a great tournament.
And, he is considered one of the best all-time brasilian defensive midfielders, together with Zito, Cerezo and Dunga.

The less talented players (and the ones who are less remembered) of that Brasil were probably the keeper (Felix), the left wingback Everaldo and the 2 central defenders (Brito and Piazza, the latest being a defensive midfielders who played a WC as central defender like Haan did for Holland four years later).