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Iranian Monitor
21 May 2006, 06:52 AM
While there is a comfortable assumption among Western analysts, fed by Iranian behavior, that Iran probably does not have the bomb, the evidence on that score is inconclusive IMO.

I am not going to go over the full range of issues that suggest Iran might already have nukes, or at a minimum be very close to being able to make them if it so chose, except to say this much: Unlike the Iraqi situation, in Iran's case, the lies from the West this time around are focused on underestimating Iran's capablities. Not the reverse.

Otherwise, the West wouldn't be stretching all credulity by trying to undermine Iran's (IAEA verified) claims about uranium enrichment. Otherwise, the West would not be so silent when it came to clear indications that Iran had advanced programs on P2 and laser enrichment, despite only showing the IAEA enrichment facilities using P1 centrifuges. Nor would those in the intelligence community tasked to figure out these things, miss the fact that Iran was suddenly all too quick to fix reported "technical problems" with both its conversion and enrichment programs when it needed them fixed.;)

Besides indigineous nukes, there is also the issue about missing nukes from the ex Soviet states and whether some of them are in Iran?:D

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1702808,001301970000.htm

Iran may already have nuclear bomb: Expert

Iran may already possess a nuclear bomb but is "smart" enough to pretend to be on the way to achieving nuclear capability so that it could induce concessions from the international community, an Israeli nuclear expert has claimed.

The Iranians are not necessarily presenting the true facts to the world and may be showing the IAEA dummy presentations of an unfinished bomb, while hiding a fully developed bomb elsewhere, former head of the Nuclear Engineering Department at Ben-Gurion University, Professor Zeev Alfassi, told Ynet.

Tehran may be holding the true bomb in caves or in underground facilities, Alfassi told the news portal.

However, he ruled out any chances that the Islamic Republic will use its nuclear capability saying, "their thinking is fantastic."

Mefisto
21 May 2006, 07:57 AM
if Iran has the bomb how come Israel is still around?

!Bob
21 May 2006, 08:15 AM
if Iran has the bomb how come Israel is still around?
Simply an ignorant comment. Was it meant to be funny?

However, more on the point, there is the contradictory news that Iran in fact hasn't fully mastered the enrinchment process and in fact pretended to have done everything themselves as opposed to using Chinese stuff (sorry, can't remember the full name) and tested their enrichment machines.

So, the jury's still out and likely to stay out for a while!

Iranian Monitor
21 May 2006, 08:27 AM
However, more on the point, there is the contradictory news that Iran in fact hasn't fully mastered the enrinchment process and in fact pretended to have done everything themselves as opposed to using Chinese stuff (sorry, can't remember the full name) and tested their enrichment machines.

So, the jury's still out and likely to stay out for a while!

That is not news. It is propaganda.

Iran's enrichment facilities are still under IAEA inspection. The IAEA has confirmed Iran's enrichment claims. Some unnamed "diplomats" had tried to pretend that Iran had used Chinese gas to feed into its centrifuge machines. Those claims were refuted by Iran. And on their face, those claims were absurd. Iran had a very small sample of Chinese UF-6 gas obtained in the early 1990s. While it is entirely possible for Iran to have used that gas to test against the enrichment level from its own domestic UF-6 gas, the notion that small amount from China was behind Iran's enrichment activities was always absurd.

I have no doubt that Iran has fully mastered the nuclear fuel cycle and passed the point of no return, capable of doing what it takes to enrich uranium for fuel (or bombs). The only reason some are reluctant to verify the point because it makes the debate simple. After this point, there isn't any way to stop Iran from what the US has claimed Iran will not be allowed to possess, namely the technological 'know how' and capability to make the bomb. If they accept the point of 'no return' has passed, then they will have to give up their efforts to isolate and sanction Iran to prevent it from attaining a capability it already has. Ultimately, however, the US is not so much focused on this specific issue alone, but more generally on 'regime change'. The US wants to put Iran under international sanctions, isolate it diplomatically, weaken it from within, pick on it, until it gets an implosion. They need the nuclear excuse and they don't want to give it up.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/21/world/main1638391.shtml
Iran: No Chinese Uranium Gas Used

Mefisto
21 May 2006, 11:08 AM
[QUOTE=!Bob]Simply an ignorant comment. Was it meant to be funny?
QUOTE]

Why? has the iranian president not repeatedly called for the destruction or eradication of Israel

In my world 2+2= 4

You do math like a drunken Enron executive