Is Israel a "Tyrannical Regime" that one day will be destroyed?

[Iranian Monitor]

Do you agree.

(1) Yes. Israel is a 'tyrannical regime that one day will be destroyed'.
(2) No. Israel is not a 'tyrannical regime" and it will not be destroyed.No and (3) Yes and No. Israel is a 'tyrannical regime', but I don't think it will be destroyed.
(4) No and Yes. Israel is not a 'tyrannical regime', but I do believe it will one day be destroyed.
(5) None of the above

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1948600

Iran Leader: Israel a 'Tyrannical Regime'

Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Calls Israel a 'Tyrannical Regime,' Dismisses Sanction Threat

JAKARTA, Indonesia May 11, 2006 (AP)— Iran's president on Thursday intensified his attacks against Israel, calling it a "a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed," but also said he was ready to negotiate with the United States and its allies over his country's nuclear program.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has previously said Israel should be wiped off the map, told a cheering crowd of students in the Indonesian capital that it is every country's right not just the United States to use new technology to meet energy needs.

He said his country was willing to negotiate, but that the United States first must drop its "bad attitude."

"We are not only defending our rights, we are defending the rights of many other countries," he said. "By maintaining our position, we are defending our independence."

[BenReilly]

Israel is a great country which, unfortuately, will be destoryed if it doesn't destroy Iran first.

[sardus_pater]

No. Israel is not a 'tyrannical regime" and it will not be destroyed.

The only way I see Israel destroyed is if Israel will follow a path of selfdestruction. One could be the tendency to overeact to void vocal threats, being sucked into a too large warfare and ending being a casualty of war.
Not that I think it would mean actual destruction but it could cause a new widespread diaspora and thus leaving the body (state) without blood (citizens).

I positively think the israeli leadership is clever enough not to do such mistakes btw.

Ahmadinejad and his foolish attempt to please the antizionist muslim crowd and/or to fool Israel into a huge unilateral mistake have long reached the level of hyper-annoyance.

[Scarecrow]

Doesn't armanass seem overly obsessed with Israel? I wonder if Israel can go to the World Court and get a restraining order against him? He is a classic stalker.

Why doesn't armanass just go ahead and declare war on Israel. That is what he is leading too right? If he does will you join the army IM?

[odessit19]

Do you agree.

(1) Yes. Israel is a 'tyrannical regime that one day will be destroyed'.
(2) No. Israel is not a 'tyrannical regime" and it will not be destroyed.No and (3) Yes and No. Israel is a 'tyrannical regime', but I don't think it will be destroyed.
(4) No and Yes. Israel is not a 'tyrannical regime', but I do believe it will one day be destroyed.
(5) None of the above

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1948600

You and your fellow puppets keep tellings all of us that it's just rhetoric, it has ben like this for a long time and Israel does the same. Well, when will enough be enough? Sometimes when a maniacal lunatic keeps repeating the same threat over and over and over, people might get more concerned than usual and act on it. Ahmadinejad should just shut the ******** up because he is doing more harm and is paining a bigger bull's eys on him and his nuclear program.
And Isreal will never be destroyed, Jews all over the world would just have an "immigration May day" and not show up for work and all of world's finances, sciences, medicine, banking would come to a complete halt and world's economy would end. Iran needs to think about that.

[Amerikaki]

Do you agree.

(1) Yes. Iranian Monitor is a 'tyrannical regime that one day will be destroyed'.
(2) No. Iranian Monitor is not a 'tyrannical regime" and it will not be destroyed.No and
(3) Yes and No. Iranian Monitor is a 'tyrannical regime', but I don't think it will be destroyed.
(4) No and Yes. Iranian Monitor is not a 'tyrannical regime', but I do believe it will one day be destroyed.
(5) None of the above

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1948600

I vote 1 :)

What a stupid thread - My response won't be any longer than this.

[Iranian Monitor]

No. Israel is not a 'tyrannical regime" and it will not be destroyed.

The only way I see Israel destroyed is if Israel will follow a path of selfdestruction. One could be the tendency to overeact to void vocal threats, being sucked into a too large warfare and ending being a casualty of war.
Not that I think it would mean actual destruction but it could cause a new widespread diaspora and thus leaving the body (state) without blood (citizens).

I positively think the israeli leadership is clever enough not to do such mistakes btw.

Ahmadinejad and his foolish attempt to please the antizionist muslim crowd and/or to fool Israel into a huge unilateral mistake have long reached the level of hyper-annoyance.

I have not yet voted in this poll because I am not sure about the answer. I will expand on what I mean later, but certainly the notion that Israel -- as a Zionist, exclusivist, Jewish state -- is a viable entity in the long run is open to question?

Whether Israel is tyrannical, on the other hand, depends on who is answering the question. I have no doubt most Palestinians who live under Israeli guns would differ with those who paint Israel otherwise.

As for Ahmadinejad, I have never seen him suggest that it is Iran's role to bring an end to Israel through any form of a military attack. Rather, his position is that (a) Israel is tyrannical and (b) that such a tyrannical regime won't last. The proposition can be discussed or debated, but what is significant about it is that he is unwilling to go along with the forced legitimacy that some want to accord to Israel. Otherwise, his comments don't constitute a military threat to Israel.

What are his motives in refusing to give up the rhetoric on this point? They are varied. You highlight some of them, but there is more to it. From Ahmadinejad's perspective, being able to freely and openly state what most people in the region feel is a sign of independence. A sign that a country is unwilling to be coerced by anyone into taking positions that they don't believe in. Besides that, from a geopolitical standpoint, I suppose that this issue needs to be brought to a head if there is going to be any constructive dialogue to resolve the major issues in the region, including those that separate Iran from the US. If appeasement on the issue is one option that Iran might take, another one is to force a debate on the issue that try to find a more acceptable solution than the ones often debated.

[Amerikaki]

I have not yet voted in this poll because I am not sure about the answer. I will expand on what I mean later, but certainly the notion that Israel -- as a Zionist, exclusivist, Jewish state -- is a viable entity in the long run is open to question?


You voted when you created this thread.


Whether Israel is tyrannical, on the other hand, depends on who is answering the question. I have no doubt most Palestinians who live under Israeli guns would differ with those who paint Israel otherwise.


If a bunch of school children tell you that they swear the sky is green - that's fine - but it shouldn't be up to debate among the general population.



As for Ahmadinejad, I have never seen him suggest that it is Iran's role to bring an end to Israel through any form of a military attack.

By holding war games and then declaring "Israel will be wiped off the map" he made a pretty clear declaration...


Rather, his position is that (a) Israel is tyrannical and (b) that such a tyrannical regime won't last.

No - what he said was that Israel will be wiped off the map and that Europe should absorb the Jews into their own nations or create a Jewish country in Europe


The proposition can be discussed or debated, but what is significant about it is that he is unwilling to go along with the forced legitimacy that some want to accord to Israel.

He is unwilling to recognize Israel and its people as having a legitimate right to exist - period. Unless of course they change the name to Palestine and all convert to Islam.



Otherwise, his comments don't constitute a military threat to Israel.

Well it's a good thing you aren't an advisor to the Israeli Defense Force.


From Ahmadinejad's perspective, being able to freely and openly state what most people in the region feel is a sign of independence. A sign that a country is unwilling to be coerced by anyone into taking positions that they don't believe in.

He sounds just like Nasser before going to war with Israel. It is not a sign of independence - it is simply a way to garner support among the Arabs who would love to see Israel dissappear. He wants to be known as the champion of the Arab nationalist movement even though he his not Arab. Perhaps its a new movement - the Muslim nationalist movement. Either way - he is only repeating a popular statement in the Middle East - which is sad by the way that such statements are popular among human beings - and is simply in search of power and support for his nuclear program. That does not mean that his threats to Israel are not to be taken seriously.

[athena20]

isarel will not be destroyed I think since Israel has a good relationship with powerful countries in this world like : U.S. , China and probably india. We chinese and the israelis share many common interest. We both have been suffered greatly in the past and now China is becoming more and more powerful , same as Israel. Israel was able to defend against other countries during the 6-days wars. Also, they have very advanced weapons which even we chinese want to buy. In my mind, I actually want to see an alliance from by Russia, China and Israel since this is a perfect team to me. Russia's energy resources, China's economy and Israel's technology.

[BenReilly]

I have not yet voted in this poll because I am not sure about the answer. I will expand on what I mean later, but certainly the notion that Israel -- as a Zionist, exclusivist, Jewish state -- is a viable entity in the long run is open to question?

Israel is a state for the Jewish people, but never has been exclusively so. It's worth noting that over 50% of Israeli Arabs voted for Zionist parties in the last election. It's much like the great nation of Bulgaria, which has a sizable minority of non-Bulgarians.

Ethnic groups:
Bulgarian 83.9%, Turk 9.4%, Roma 4.7%, other 2% (including Macedonian, Armenian, Tatar, Circassian) (2001 census)

[Rostam]

i voted for number 3.
Yes they are tyrannical in their treatement of Palis but I want them around cuz I got some ideas that can help reshape the future for the good of all, and that will be that. :)

[yasik19]

why is Iranian Monitor so obsessed with Israel? Maybe he is really a Jewish guy who lives in Israel and works for a company who specializes in polls.:confused:

[Iranian Monitor]

why is Iranian Monitor so obsessed with Israel? Maybe he is really a Jewish guy who lives in Israel and works for a company who specializes in polls.:confused:

I can't vouch for the accuracy of these claims, but I am sure about one thing: if the US/Israel stop obssessing over Iran, then Iran will not take as much interest in Israel.;)

http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_world/article/0,2564,ALBQ_19864_4696857,00.html


Iran uses Israel as hostage
By Associated Press
May 13, 2006

Pakistan's former army chief says Iranian officials came to him for advice on heading off an attack on their nuclear facilities. He in effect advised them to take a hostage - Israel.

Retired Gen. Mirza Aslam Beg said he suggested their government "make it clear that if anything happens to Iran, if anyone attacks it - it doesn't matter who it is or how it is attacked - that Iran's answer will be to hit Israel; the only target will be Israel."

Another report (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/14565391.htm) expands further on his comments:
...
He said he also advised them to "attempt to degrade the defense systems of Israel," harass it through the Hamas government of the Palestinian Authority and the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon, and put second-strike nuclear weapons on submarines.

Although analysts are divided on how soon Iran might have nuclear weapons, Beg said he is sure Iran has had enough time to develop them.

[yasik19]

I can't vouch for the accuracy of these claims, but I am sure about one thing: if the US/Israel stop obssessing over Iran, then Iran will not take as much interest in Israel.;)

http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/nw_world/article/0,2564,ALBQ_19864_4696857,00.html



Another report (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/14565391.htm) expands further on his comments:
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just shows how fcuked up the Muslim world has become.

[BenReilly]

why is Iranian Monitor so obsessed with Israel? Maybe he is really a Jewish guy who lives in Israel and works for a company who specializes in polls.:confused:

Iranian Monitor is a Mossad agent (the son of Bulgarian Jews who returned to Zion). His command of Farsi is impressive, but he's overplaying the part somewhat.