Putin got angry

[sardus_pater]

Putin Chastises U.S. on Democratic Ideals (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060510/ap_on_re_eu/russia_putin_4)

During an emotional moment in the nationally televised speech, Putin used the fairy-tale motif on the need to build a fortress-like house and to illustrate Russia's need to bolster its defenses. He also suggested that Washington puts its political interests above the democratic ideals it claims to cherish.

"Where is all this pathos about protecting human rights and democracy when it comes to the need to pursue their own interests? Here, it seems, everything is allowed, there are no restrictions whatsoever," Putin said, smiling sarcastically in the address to both houses of parliament.

"We are aware what is going on in the world," he said. "Comrade wolf knows whom to eat, he eats without listening, and he's clearly not going to listen to anyone."

I think i know what he is referring to

In another apparent barb aimed at the United States, Putin said countries should not use Russia's
World Trade Organization membership negotiations to make unrelated demands.

"The negotiations for letting Russia into the WTO should not become a bargaining chip for questions that have nothing in common with the activities of this organization," Putin said.

In April, U.S. senators visiting Moscow said Russia's democracy record and its stance in the Iranian nuclear crisis would influence Congress as it considers Moscow's bid to join the global trade body.


uh uh

"We must always be ready to counter any attempts to pressure Russia in order to strengthen positions at our expense," he said. "The stronger our military is, the less temptation there will be to exert such pressure on us."

Putin said the government would work to strengthen the nation's nuclear deterrent as well as conventional military forces without repeating the mistakes of the Cold War era, when a costly arms race with Washington drained Soviet resources.

(...)

He said Russia would soon commission two nuclear submarines equipped with the new Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles — the nation's first since Soviet times — while the land-based strategic missile forces would get their first unit of mobile Topol-M missiles.

The new missiles and warheads, which can foil defenses by changing direction in flight, would allow Russia to preserve a strategic balance without denting the nation's economic development goals, he said, adding that Russia needs a military that is capable of answering all modern challenges.

And the next news is the announce of open economic "warfare".

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060510/47915635.html

MOSCOW, May 10 (RIA Novosti) - President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday that a ruble-denominated oil and natural gas stock exchange should be set up in Russia.

Speaking before both chambers of parliament, cabinet members, and reporters, Putin said: "The ruble must become a more widespread means of international transactions. To this end, we need to open a stock exchange in Russia to trade in oil, gas, and other goods to be paid for with rubles."

"Our goods are traded on global markets. Why are not they traded in Russia?" Putin said.

He looks totally pissed off, some memo he got?

From the the first article
Political analyst Alexei Makarkin told Ekho Moskvy radio the"wolf" reference was a response to the "United States, its actions in Iraq and plans toward Iran, its games on the territory of the CIS (former Soviet territory) and its criticism of Russia.

[Iranian Monitor]

Some US Senators (and Cheney) decided that they wanted to get 'tough' on Russia because of its refusal to endorse Chapter 7 sanctions against Iran. Russia always had the upperhand, but until now it had been entirely too timid. Hopefully Putin can realize how strong a hand he has, and where to look to find an alliance the US could not touch. And which could be build on strong ideological, economic, political, and military foundations.

Here are some facts that Putin should realize and so should the West. Russia has the world's top reserves of natural gas. The second top reserves of natural gas belong to Iran. Oil from Russia and the Persian Gulf account for most of the energy supplies of the world. Whoever controls both those resources does have his hands around the world's economic throat. Russia and Iran aligned together can never be threatened by the US or anyone else.

While there have been some science fiction like articles showing how the Russian nuclear deterrent has fallen and indicating the US might be able to get away with a nuclear first strike, the fact is that both the easy remedy to that situation as well as its risks and implications make that irrelevant to any strategic calculation. The US will not engage in a nuclear first strike against Russia based on assumptions and theoretical musings about the possibility of being able to disarm the Russians in a first strike. And the Russians are easily capable of reinforcing their deterrent forces without breaking the piggy bank so that the notion of a nuclear first strike would not even have academic merit.

In the meantime, an Iran capable of having a nuclear deterrent and as part of an Iran-Russian alliance cannot be unhinged or derailed by the US. It will reinforce Russia's strategic position. On the other hand, an Iran that is ruined in its potential, leaves Russia easily vulnerable to whatever pressures are necessary to pave the way for the so-called New American Century.

It would require Putin to be entirely stupid, or alternatively to be entirely bought, for him to throw away the great historical cards he has been dealt in order to appease the West. Indeed, strategically, ultimately the world will find itself divided into a few poles. One pole would see the Russia-China-Iran alliance, in time with India adding itself to the mix with the Islamic world brought into that alliance over time as well. This will be the real "East", while the "West" will probably divide itself into the European camp on the one hand, and the US/Israeli camp on the other. Or alternatively, the US/Israeli camp might be able to continue controlling the European one. Of course, in time, I expect the "Western frontier base" in the "Eastern camp" to itself unravel. Not by military invasion, but by being denied the militarily outlet that allows it right now to keep the lid on its foundational weaknesses.

[BenReilly]

For those not keeping score,

Sardinia loves:

Islamic Rep. of Iran, Russia, The Republic of Hugo Chavez

Hates:

USA, Israel, Bulgaria

[Rostam]

Sardinia loves:

Islamic Rep. of Iran, Russia, The Republic of Hugo Chavez



Nice to know some people still value age-old friendships, unlike a few others!

Bibi, doesn't neocons' advice to Bush resemble that of Oracle of Delphi's to Croesus? ;)

[ForeverRed]

I read an article on Cheney's reaction to Russia recently. It pretty much summed up how this administration doesn't realize how strategic of a partner Russia and Putin really is in this day and age.

Russia has tremendous influence in the Middle East and how Cheney and Co. is handling relations with Mosco isn't exactly doing them any favors when it comes to the Middle East.

[sardus_pater]

For those not keeping score,

Sardinia loves:

Islamic Rep. of Iran, Russia, The Republic of Hugo Chavez

Hates:

USA, Israel, Bulgaria

Leave the oversimplifying good and evil game to the demented and where it belongs ie the realm of propaganda.

I hate the "new world order" the lovely neocons have in mind and I hate even more and I fear their agenda, their doctrine, the way they want to conquer the world in their dangerous Risk game, that's for sure.

So, anything which stands in the way and blocks these fools who happen to lead USA is welcome.

I happen to think that the soon USA abandons this imperial foolishness the better for the US and the better for the world.
Maybe you will get your leadership to care about a decent welfare state.

I do believe that USA is a better democracy than Russia, Venezuela, Iran, China and others but when it comes to foreign politics this is entirely irrelevant.
I don't want another superpower to substitute USA but I do think that the best order for the world is one where there is equilibrium, balance and imperial dreams are soon recognized as nightmares.

Finally why don't you comment the message rather than the messenger, why don't you look at the moon instead of staring at my finger?

p.s. Did you read about Bush I and Bush II proposing a Bush III? I think republicans should think about hereditary presidence.

[Shaster]

When Russia asks to trade oil/gas in Rubles--it is almost like trade in Euro due to the relationship between Rubles and Euro. Also read Russia news talking about BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) have more money than G-7 now.

Saudi will start a gulf-unified currency that pegs euro before 2010. That only left Venesuale ... oops! Never mind.

[CrewDust]

The funny thing is a Russian Oil Concern just hired a French company to do Oil Exploration instead of.............. Haliburton.


Good Job Dick.

[athena20]

When Russia asks to trade oil/gas in Rubles--it is almost like trade in Euro due to the relationship between Rubles and Euro. Also read Russia news talking about BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) have more money than G-7 now.

Saudi will start a gulf-unified currency that pegs euro before 2010. That only left Venesuale ... oops! Never mind.

yes, I think Russia and China can already form a very strong alliance. And with the addition of India, it would make the alliance much stronger.

[Iranian Monitor]

yes, I think Russia and China can already form a very strong alliance. And with the addition of India, it would make the alliance much stronger.

Without Iran, it won't work. Iran is crticial because it implicitly completes the circle in terms of holding the world's energy supplies as leverage to counter any hostile attempts against such an alliance.

[Caliguy]

Without Iran, it won't work. Iran is crticial because it implicitly completes the circle in terms of holding the world's energy supplies as leverage to counter any hostile attempts against such an alliance.


He is a korean sock, don't waste your time.

[Rostam]

I was pretty sure that he is playing sock. I have noticed his unwarranted comments in other threads.

Would the mods please check for dup IPs or other means to monitor this character.
Thanx

[Shaster]

yes, I think Russia and China can already form a very strong alliance. And with the addition of India, it would make the alliance much stronger.

There are two problems between Russia and China:

1) Eastern Siberia (Outer Manchuria). Russia still worry about someday China may take back this territory because China may have over-crowded population. Currently, there are 5M Russians but 7M Chinese living there, and the area has more economic dependance on Manchuria then Russia heart land. Some Russians talk about get a big ransom from China now instead of "losing" it in the future. Others worry about the "mixing" of populations--due to interracial marriage, some worry the offsprings are more "Chinese"-look in the future.

2) If China becomes too strong, Russia has to go with USA to do a balance act. Right now it has to go with China to balance out USA. Things can change.

About India, it is in a very good position. Russia proposes a Russia-China-India triangle, Japan proposes a Japan-China-India triangle, and US proposes a US-India (in addition of US-Japan) to balance out of China (the US-Australia-Indonisia already fall apart). So India probably will get much benefit by playing their non-alliance policy to against each other.

[Shaster]

Without Iran, it won't work. Iran is crticial because it implicitly completes the circle in terms of holding the world's energy supplies as leverage to counter any hostile attempts against such an alliance.

Iran probably will not join by itself, but come alone with India and Pakistan.

[BenReilly]

About India, it is in a very good position. Russia proposes a Russia-China-India triangle, Japan proposes a Japan-China-India triangle, and US proposes a US-India (in addition of US-Japan) to balance out of China (the US-Australia-Indonisia already fall apart). So India probably will get much benefit by playing their non-alliance policy to against each other.

As usual, you foolishly leave Bulgaria out of the equation. You haven't noticed the American bases developing in Bulgaria? You don't realize that rap star 50-cent will be in Bulgaria next month? Not India or even China!

[Shaster]

As usual, you foolishly leave Bulgaria out of the equation. You haven't noticed the American bases developing in Bulgaria? You don't realize that rap star 50-cent will be in Bulgaria next month? Not India or even China!

Bulgaria? Those guys (and Hungarians) whose ancesters were beat up in China? :p

[Nanbawan]

For those not keeping score,

Sardinia loves:

Islamic Rep. of Iran, Russia, The Republic of Hugo Chavez



In the mean time, Sardinia has some intellectual courage given the ongoing rhetoric and dialectic around here.

[Scarecrow]

It's interesting that Putin got angry and made comments about Democracy in the US, especially in light of the way he handled Yukos and sent the President of the Oil company to jail, also didn't that same person run against Putin?

As for Iran, ha IM what a joke, Iran is nothing more then a bit player in all this, the real focus should be on Bulgaria as they are the true next superpower.

[Mathemagician]

Bulgaria? What am I missing?

[Iranian Monitor]

Bulgaria? What am I missing?
Nothing really. Just Ben's poor attempt at a faulty satire.