(R) Mexico v Colombia (Resultado)

[LMvCP]

can someone post Colombia's roster for net week on here....

any idea if Mexico will keep the same roster?

[sidspaceman]

The Colombian roster is in limbo right now since the FMF has not procured visas for at least 6 of the players Maturana wants to bring.

http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/depo/FUTBOL/FUCO_F/noticias/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-267986.html

La lista de convocados es la siguiente:

Arqueros: Oscar Córdoba y Miguel Calero

Defensas: Amaranto Perea, José Mera, Roberto Carlos Cortés
Gerardo Vallejo, Gerardo Bedoya, Gonzalo Martínez, Iván Ramiro Córdoba y Mario Alberto Yepes

Volantes: Carlos Ortiz, Jhon Javier Restrepo, Aldo Leao Ramírez, Alex Viveros, Freddy Grisales, Giovanni Hernández y David Ferreira.

Delanteros: Juan Pablo Angel, Rafael Castillo y Léider Preciado.

[LMvCP]

i dont understand what the FMF has to do with the Colombians not getting thier visas? The game will be in the US? So no need to talk to the Mexican immigration people (unless they fly from Bogota to Mexico City to Arizona) I know there are flight that are direct from Colombia to the US.

Maybe this is just me, but could it be that the Colombian FA people are not turing in thier paper work on time?

[sidspaceman]

From reading the article I was under the impression that since the FMF is managing the game that they are in charge of getting all the paperwork.

What you say could be true maybe the Colombians haven't sent in their paperwork yet.

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by sidspaceman
From reading the article I was under the impression that since the FMF is managing the game that they are in charge of getting all the paperwork.

What you say could be true maybe the Colombians haven't sent in their paperwork yet.

The FMF is not managing the games. Promoters are doing that. They go to the FMF and asked them who they want to play. a couple months back when Mexico rid themselves of Soccer 2000 and Wau... they wante to oversee all aspects of marketing and promotions... but what they did do is set up people to look for matches.. the FMF basically said who and what type of teams they want to play... and the promoters are the ones who make it happen.

Its actually the promoters who loses if the game does not take place..not the colombian fa or the fmf.

[sidspaceman]

Well then it is the promoters who are screwing up the Visas. This game will be played even if those players don't get visas. The Colombian fed is not going to take a chance that they might get barred from the US again. This game might be a make up for the one that got cancelled before the world cup.

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by sidspaceman
Well then it is the promoters who are screwing up the Visas. This game will be played even if those players don't get visas. The Colombian fed is not going to take a chance that they might get barred from the US again. This game might be a make up for the one that got cancelled before the world cup.

since i have been out of the loop for a while... i dont exactly know who the promoters are...

http://www.reforma.com/futbol/articulo/266995/default.htm

according to that... a member of the USSF who happened to be one of the promoters picked up the entire tab for us.. a couple months ago... i read an article saying that one of the reasons that they prefer to play in the US is that there is no overhead.. they pick up the entire bill (food, airfare, lodging, etc)

I kno that the FMF could make a lot of dough as well if they were to bring teams like Argentina, Spain, Croacia to Aztec stadium... but that means we still have to pay for all the other stuff. Stuff that the FMF gets for free in the US.

If in case the promoter is from the USSF for the next game...i really dont see why he would want to jeapordize his investment by allowing Visas to be the main problem. I saw the same thing with the Jamaican FA. They expected to turn in the paperwork 2 days prior and expect everything to go smooth. It is the federations job to be informed of new immigration laws and such. Its bad business to turn away tourist because they do spend money in your country. One thing that I like about what Lavolpe is doing... is that he talked to Lapuente, Bora, Menoti, Meza, Aguirre and asked them what he should experct and what things could be better... Lavolpe in turn wanted to hire one person to take care of field matters and the other person to take care of administrative matters. Before it was done by the same person...Jesus Bracamontes (who you have seen on Univision) is the one who is taking care of field matters "gerente deportivo" and he deals with scouting, watching video, etc etc etc. THe othetr guy sticks to administration. Bracamontes went on Republica a couple weeks ago and said that he likes what he sees and that before doing was too demanding... now he can just do what he likes and takes care of field matters and not have to worry about paperwork and cr4p like that.. of course the FMF had to approve which they did

[sidspaceman]

All I know is that somebody has dropped the ball.

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by sidspaceman
All I know is that somebody has dropped the ball.

why exactly did Colombia get banned from the US?

[sidspaceman]

Because they pulled out of a friendley versus Mexico. The promoter went to the USSF and got them banned.

[Levante]

Originally posted by sidspaceman
Because they pulled out of a friendley versus Mexico. The promoter went to the USSF and got them banned.

That cancellation pissed a lot of Mexicans off here in Chicago. They had been advertising it for weeks on the radio and right before the game was about to take place.......nada.

[sidspaceman]

Do you remember when it was going to take place Levante?

[Alberto]

Originally posted by sidspaceman
The Colombian roster is in limbo right now since the FMF has not procured visas for at least 6 of the players Maturana wants to bring.

http://eltiempo.terra.com.co/depo/FUTBOL/FUCO_F/noticias/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-267986.html

La lista de convocados es la siguiente:

Arqueros: Oscar Córdoba y Miguel Calero

Defensas: Amaranto Perea, José Mera, Roberto Carlos Cortés
Gerardo Vallejo, Gerardo Bedoya, Gonzalo Martínez, Iván Ramiro Córdoba y Mario Alberto Yepes

Volantes: Carlos Ortiz, Jhon Javier Restrepo, Aldo Leao Ramírez, Alex Viveros, Freddy Grisales, Giovanni Hernández y David Ferreira.

Delanteros: Juan Pablo Angel, Rafael Castillo y Léider Preciado.

Lots of new faces. Glad to see Pancho Maturana made the changes.

[LMvCP]

http://www.el-universal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=119398&tabla=notas

Quien no fue considerado para el amistoso del miércoles 12 de febrero es el medio de contención del Sevilla de España, Gerardo Torrado

19:32 El zaguero Rafael Márquez, del Mónaco de Francia, así como el volante Ramón Morales, de Guadalajara, y el delantero Jared Borgetti, de Santos Laguna, fueron convocados por Ricardo La Volpe para el partido de México ante Colombia.

Estos tres jugadores son las novedades en la lista de 22 futbolistas convocados para el choque con Colombia del próximo día 12 en Phoenix, Arizona, en lo que será el segundo del argentino Ricardo Antonio La Volpe como técnico de la Selección Mexicana de futbol.

Para ese encuentro, previsto en fecha FIFA, Márquez será el único convocado de los que militan en el extranjero, pues no vendrá Gerardo Torrado, medio de contención del Sevilla de España.

La Volpe ya había anunciado la posibilidad de convocar a Morales y Borgetti a su arribo de Los Angeles, California, tras la derrota 0-1 frente a Argentina del martes anterior; pero que todo dependería de tener contacto con los médicos de los respectivos clubes a fin de saber el estado físico.

El grupo se concentrará el próximo lunes por la mañana en el Centro de Alto Rendimiento de la Federación Mexicana de Futbol y viajará el martes hacia Phoenix para enfrentar a Colombia, el próximo miércoles.

De esta lista hubo tres salidas respecto de la anterior, la del volante Carlos Morales (Morelia), y las del zaguero Joel Sánchez y del delantero Omar Bravo (ambos de Guadalajara).

Convocados:

1 Oswaldo Sánchez Portero Guadalajara

2 Moisés Muñoz Portero Morelia

3 Salvador Carmona Defensa Toluca

4 Duilio Davino Defensa América

5 Rafael Márquez Defensa AS Mónaco/FRA

6 Raúl Salinas Defensa América

7Héctor Altamirano Defensa Santos Laguna

8 Pavel Pardo Defensa América

9 Ramón Morales Medio Guadalajara

10 Israel López Medio Toluca

11 José Antonio Castro Medio América

12 Diego Martínez Medio Necaxa

13 Luis Ernesto Pérez Medio Monterrey

14 Juan Pablo Rodríguez Medio Atlas

15 Eduardo Rergis Medio Atlante

16 Cuauhtémoc Blanco Delantero América

17 Fernando Arce Delantero Veracruz

18 Jesús Olalde Delantero UANL

19 Braulio Luna Delantero Necaxa

20 Jared Borgetti Delantero Santos Laguna

[Levante]

Originally posted by sidspaceman
Do you remember when it was going to take place Levante?

It was 2 or 3 months after Colombia's win over Mexico in the Copa America final and the promoters were calling it "La Revancha" or something cheesy like that. I remember that the Colombian fans were also pissed off. It's not very often that Colombia comes to Chicago.

By the way, I heard on Radio Unica earlier that the Visa problems are problems no more. Asi que Atletico Nacional, efer, y Sid PI, pongan sus apuestas senyores......!

[LMvCP]

Convocados:

1 Oswaldo Sánchez Portero Guadalajara
2 Moisés Muñoz Portero Morelia

3 Salvador Carmona Defensa Toluca
4 Duilio Davino Defensa América
5 Rafael Márquez Defensa AS Mónaco/FRA
6 Raúl Salinas Defensa América
7Héctor Altamirano Defensa Santos Laguna
8 Pavel Pardo Defensa América

9 Ramón Morales Medio Guadalajara
10 Israel López Medio Toluca
11 José Antonio Castro Medio América
12 Diego Martínez Medio Necaxa
13 Luis Ernesto Pérez Medio Monterrey
14 Juan Pablo Rodríguez Medio Atlas
15 Eduardo Rergis Medio Atlante

16 Cuauhtémoc Blanco Delantero América
17 Fernando Arce Delantero Veracruz
18 Jesús Olalde Delantero UANL
19 Braulio Luna Delantero Necaxa
20 Jared Borgetti Delantero Santos Laguna

Titulares

Porteria - Sanchez
Centrales - Davino & Marquez
Laterales - Castro & Carmona
Contencion - Pity
Volantes o Carrileros - Perez y Morales
Extremos - Blanco y Luna
Punta - Borgetti

[sidspaceman]

El técnico de la selección de Colombia, Francisco Maturana, manifestó que es una "osadía" enfrentar a México, uno de los mejores del mundo, pero aseguró tener confianza en un buen resultado para su equipo.

"Yo creo que es indudablemente una osadía, porque vamos a enfrentar un gran equipo que está entre los 16 mejores del mundo, está en su traspatio y lleva casi nueve entrenamientos o partidos, y nosotros venimos acá con un entrenamiento y medio", dijo.

http://www.colombia.com/futbol/noticias/DetalleNoticia15542.asp

[Various Styles]

http://www.terra.com.mx/galeria_de_fotos/images/83/164166.jpg

[Don Boppero 3000]

I predict Mexico will win by two.

[Garcia]

It is ON!