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"Eisenfuß" Eilts
04 May 2006, 06:01 PM
It´s not important, who of them will be nominated by Klinsmann.

He only needs to have the feeling for choosing the right day
to put them on pitch (only at their good day). :D

Lionhead
04 May 2006, 07:41 PM
It´s not important, who of them will be nominated by Klinsmann.

He only needs to have the feeling for choosing the right day
to put them on pitch (only at their good day). :D

I know what you mean. It will be like a lottery. If you pick the right numbers you could be lucky. Before each game Klinsmann should put all the numbers in a hat and draw two to play. With that he might even be able to surprise the opponent's coach:confused: . On the other hand if that would result in teaming up Neuville and Asamoah the soccer world would have at least a good laugh...:D

AGF Aarhus
05 May 2006, 04:38 AM
Klose
Podolski
Kiessling

for the fourth spot its a choice between crap and crap:

Hanke, Kuranyi, Asamoah, Neuville

I'm not fond of choosing one of them ;)
Sorry, but someone who has never played a game for the NT a month before the WC should not be named to the squad. If he belongs on it he should have been brought in a long time ago to get some experience.

Duncan Idaho
05 May 2006, 09:30 AM
Sorry, but someone who has never played a game for the NT a month before the WC should not be named to the squad. If he belongs on it he should have been brought in a long time ago to get some experience.

Oh yeah, what an argument :rolleyes:
The sole criteria for nomination should be the quality of the player and not the overall nominations. Furthermore, it is about personal opinions in this thread, if you don't like mine than I'm fine, but I won't change my opinion because of your silly argument

Furthermore, you can't logically justify normativ statements liek the one you made

AGF Aarhus
05 May 2006, 10:06 AM
Oh yeah, what an argument :rolleyes:
The sole criteria for nomination should be the quality of the player and not the overall nominations. Furthermore, it is about personal opinions in this thread, if you don't like mine than I'm fine, but I won't change my opinion because of your silly argument

Furthermore, you can't logically justify normativ statements liek the one you made
OK, and how can you adaquately asses his quality for the national team when he HAS NEVER PUT THE SHIRT ON?

I'll reiterate my point: If he belongs on the team he should have been brought in a long time ago to get some experience.

You don't put someone with zero experience at this level and zero experience working with the other national team players out on the field for the first time in a World Cup.

He may be Jesus is soccer boots, but unfortunately the time to bleed new talent for this world cup passed a couple months ago.

Psychosis hsv
05 May 2006, 10:28 AM
No, he has one good game and the next 9 games of him are usually crap (same goes for Hanke, Kuranyi, etc)
not all the 5 stirkers get to play.Birgit Prinz is better than Kuranyi. can fifa allow klinsmann to select her

MicFW
05 May 2006, 04:20 PM
Fortunately Podolski has regained his form just in time, so we've got a first-rate attack. As long as we don't lose both him and Klose because of injuries, it's not that big a problem who warms the bench. I'd say Asamoah and Kuranyi. Never mind who's going to be substitute no. 3, but I can't see why Hanke is even under consideration. Not a great talent in my opinion, at least not good enough to play for the nt.

Duncan Idaho
05 May 2006, 05:05 PM
OK, and how can you adaquately asses his quality for the national team when he HAS NEVER PUT THE SHIRT ON?



I'll say it again, when I see Kiessling playing in the Bundesliga and Kuranyi (or Hanke, etc) then it should be obvious who has to be chosen for the NT simply because of the quality. Besides that what do you think Kiessling already weared in the U21 or U20 etc? A nightdress? And what about Lahm, Schweini, etc, they all were in the same situation as Kiessling, they sometime made their first game for the NT and I don't see why there should be any difference. Because of the WC? Germany won't win anyway no matter how is going to be the third or fourth striker, but in contrast to Neuville, Kuranyi, etc. Kiessling has a future

Memento
10 May 2006, 01:35 AM
I just don't know why in Germany, there is no chance for surprise from young players.

Is the possibility of a Kiessling much worse than the reality of Asamoah or Kuranyi.

The national team IMO needs to take a chance with some younger players, because older andmore experienced could not be good enough.

Except for Podolski and Klose, I don't really see too much to look for.

Lionhead
10 May 2006, 02:13 AM
I just don't know why in Germany, there is no chance for surprise from young players.

Is the possibility of a Kiessling much worse than the reality of Asamoah or Kuranyi.

The national team IMO needs to take a chance with some younger players, because older andmore experienced could not be good enough.

Except for Podolski and Klose, I don't really see too much to look for.

I don't share your opinion. The WC is hardly the kind of scenario to try newcomers like Kiessling. You wouldn't do him nor the NT a favour.

IMO Klinsmann should reduce to 4 forwards (Klose, Poldi, Kuranyi, Hanke) like England, Spain, Netherlands and try other options with the high scoring midfield canons Ballack and Borowski. With this there would be room for Hinkel or Hitzelsperger.

Bayerntone
10 May 2006, 03:05 AM
Hinkel has been one of my favourite but his form is not better than Owomoyela who has a good season with Bremen. Hitzlsperger is not up the international level, imo. Anyway, H and H will not be picked by Klinsi in the final roster.

Hanks sucks as much as Kuranyi but the latter is not in foul trouble and gets more international experience.

Lionhead
10 May 2006, 10:58 PM
Hinkel has been one of my favourite but his form is not better than Owomoyela who has a good season with Bremen. Hitzlsperger is not up the international level, imo. Anyway, H and H will not be picked by Klinsi in the final roster.

Hanks sucks as much as Kuranyi but the latter is not in foul trouble and gets more international experience.

The options are very limited. I'd rather drop Neuville and choose a more creative and mentally stable player like Brdaric.

My point is that there is no need to have 5 forwards including waverer Neuville and waddling duck Asamoah, but instead have a creative backup option for backline/defensive midfield in Hinkel or Hitzi.

Wotan
10 May 2006, 11:06 PM
The options are very limited. I'd rather drop Neuville and choose a more creative and mentally stable player like Brdaric.

My point is that there is no need to have 5 forwards including waverer Neuville and waddling duck Asamoah, but instead have a creative backup option for backline/defensive midfield in Hinkel or Hitzi.
Good point! Asamoah as a "waddling duck" is quite on point. He's slow, & seems to wobble. I like your suggestion of having , say, 3 or, at most , 4 forwards, & get a good , solid, backline/defensive player. Why not e-mail Klinsi----jkjon@yahoo.com :)

Lionhead
10 May 2006, 11:39 PM
Good point! Asamoah as a "waddling duck" is quite on point. He's slow, & seems to wobble. I like your suggestion of having , say, 3 or, at most , 4 forwards, & get a good , solid, backline/defensive player. Why not e-mail Klinsi----jkjon@yahoo.com :)

I've tried, but only got the automated reply:

Out of office (visiting wife in US), but back soon!
In my absence Herr Löw will take care of all urgent matters.

poorvi
11 May 2006, 03:35 AM
I've tried, but only got the automated reply:

Out of office (visiting wife in US), but back soon!
In my absence Herr Löw will take care of all urgent matters.

:D :p

Bayerntone
11 May 2006, 09:50 AM
The options are very limited. I'd rather drop Neuville and choose a more creative and mentally stable player like Brdaric.

My point is that there is no need to have 5 forwards including waverer Neuville and waddling duck Asamoah, but instead have a creative backup option for backline/defensive midfield in Hinkel or Hitzi.

I agree the options are extremely limited. I am not sure about Brdaric as much I am not sure about the other forwards than Klose.:(

Bayerntone
11 May 2006, 09:52 AM
I've tried, but only got the automated reply:

Out of office (visiting wife in US), but back soon!
In my absence Herr Löw will take care of all urgent matters.

He should hire a secretary to do this.

TheNameOfTheG..
11 May 2006, 04:55 PM
The fact is at the moment only Klose plays at good level. Podolski, Kurany who are young force and should be future of german atack are in bad form. I dont have faith in Asamoah neither in Neuville. Who is left?

Vfbstuttgartfan
11 May 2006, 05:19 PM
Podolski has been good in the last matches. He'll be the starter alongside Klose, i'm sure.

Lionhead
11 May 2006, 10:33 PM
Podolski has been good in the last matches. He'll be the starter alongside Klose, i'm sure.

Everybody will expect this line up. I can't see the remaining forwards getting anything else than short appearences. Klinsmann should rather take off either only for tactical switches for example to bring on an extra defender to secure a lead. Hopefully both won't receive any injuries, because there are no alternatives.