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Scarecrow
01 May 2006, 12:07 AM
Iran looks like they are ready to start a war already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4960478.stm

Iraq has accused Iranian forces of entering Iraqi territory and shelling Kurdish rebel positions in the north.
Iranian troops bombed border areas near the town of Hajj Umran before crossing into Iraq, the defence ministry in Baghdad said on Sunday.

It said the Iranians targeted the PKK, a Kurdish group that has waged a 15-year insurgency against Turkey.

The PKK is believed to have links with anti-Iranian Kurdish fighters. There are no details on casualties.

The Iraqi defence ministry also says Iran launched a similar attack on Kurdish rebel positions in the same area on 21 April.

There are no reported comments from Tehran on either of the alleged incidents.


I find it interesting that Iran feels like they can just start shelling the Kurds in Iraq. Yet more reason the US should divide Iraq into 3 nations with the Sunnis have one part, the shia the other, and the Kurds their own nation.

Iranian Monitor
01 May 2006, 12:42 AM
Iran looks like they are ready to start a war already.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4960478.stm



I find it interesting that Iran feels like they can just start shelling the Kurds in Iraq. Yet more reason the US should divide Iraq into 3 nations with the Sunnis have one part, the shia the other, and the Kurds their own nation.

Some in the "Israeli camp" had a brilliant idea: use the Marxist PKK forces in Iraq's Kurdish areas to forment trouble for Iran, just as they have lately been using the MKO for that purpose in other ways. Their troubles have bought them around 500 deranged individuals lured by money who are engaged in terrorism against Iran.

I would hope Iran won't allow these terrorists camps to operate against Iran from a foreign base. IMO, Iran has been entirely too timid on the issue, as it relates to the protection offered the MKO by the US, the support given to anti-Iranian so-called Arab Ahwazi separatists in Iranian Khuzistan by "coalition" forces including the Brits, as well as the efforts from some quarters in association with fringe elements in Pakistan to stir trouble for Iran among Baluchis in the east.

It is noteworthy that these efforts against Iran have all been abject failures. They have managed some isolated terrorists attacks, but not been able to win over any loyalty even among what are regarded as the most disaffected Iranian minority groups (e.g., some Arabs, some Baluchis, and some Kurds in Iran).

In the meantime, I do hope Iran attacks terrorist bases being used against it in its neighborhood. Indeed, even in Iraqi Kurdistan, Iran has many more supporters and sympathisers than it has foes. When it comes time to roll the dice, the US will find out what I mean.

Scarecrow
01 May 2006, 02:03 PM
Some in the "Israeli camp" had a brilliant idea: use the Marxist PKK forces in Iraq's Kurdish areas to forment trouble for Iran, just as they have lately been using the MKO for that purpose in other ways. Their troubles have bought them around 500 deranged individuals lured by money who are engaged in terrorism against Iran.

I would hope Iran won't allow these terrorists camps to operate against Iran from a foreign base. IMO, Iran has been entirely too timid on the issue, as it relates to the protection offered the MKO by the US, the support given to anti-Iranian so-called Arab Ahwazi separatists in Iranian Khuzistan by "coalition" forces including the Brits, as well as the efforts from some quarters in association with fringe elements in Pakistan to stir trouble for Iran among Baluchis in the east.

It is noteworthy that these efforts against Iran have all been abject failures. They have managed some isolated terrorists attacks, but not been able to win over any loyalty even among what are regarded as the most disaffected Iranian minority groups (e.g., some Arabs, some Baluchis, and some Kurds in Iran).

In the meantime, I do hope Iran attacks terrorist bases being used against it in its neighborhood. Indeed, even in Iraqi Kurdistan, Iran has many more supporters and sympathisers than it has foes. When it comes time to roll the dice, the US will find out what I mean.

Well lets see some evidence to support your claims that the Kurds are operating terror bases and are using them to attack Iran. Especially since as noted in the linked article that these Kurds have been fighting the Turks.

Iranian Monitor
01 May 2006, 02:50 PM
Well lets see some evidence to support your claims that the Kurds are operating terror bases and are using them to attack Iran. Especially since as noted in the linked article that these Kurds have been fighting the Turks.

Several Iranian soldiers have been killed and ambushed in recent weeks by the terrorist forces operating in that region. As for the evidence, the attacks were reported in wire reports at the time and you can do your own research. The latest report about alleged Iranian shelling of the region again alludes to them as well.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/3832120.html

Iran Shells Rebel Border Area in Iraq


BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iranian forces again shelled a border area used by Iranian Kurdish rebels, forcing some families to flee their homes Monday but causing no casualties, a Kurdish official said.

Mustafa Qader, a member of the political bureau of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan party, said the shelling began at about 9 a.m. Sunday and continued until 5:30 a.m. Monday.
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Rebels seeking self-rule in Kurdish areas of Iran operate from Iraqi territory and have been active recently, mounting attacks against Iranian army and Revolutionary Guard posts.

Iran says the rebels, known as Pejak, are linked to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, which has waged a 22-year insurgency against Turkey for self-rule in that country's mainly Kurdish southeast.

On Sunday, Iranian artillery fired more than 180 shells into the same area of northern Iraq, also targeting Kurdish rebel bases but causing no casualties, the Iraqi government said. Those shells landed near the Iraqi village of Haj Omran, which is about three miles inside the Iraq-Iran border, the Iraqi Ministry of Defense said.

Iranian forces launched a similar artillery attack April 21.

Iranian Monitor
01 May 2006, 03:07 PM
Iran, incidentally, has denied reports that its troops actually entered Iraqi territory.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-05/01/content_4500061.htm

Iran denies crossing border into Iraq

TEHRAN, May 1 (Xinhua) -- Iran denied on Monday earlier reports on the entry of Iranian border guards into Iraq through a border point.

"Press reports on the entry of Iranian border guards into Iraq at Haj Omran border point is unfounded," Iran's official IRNA news agency quoted an unnamed official as saying.

The Iranian border guards were "on maximum alert to confront any provocation by terrorist groups and will take any action deemed necessary to enforce border security," the official added.

Earlier, reports said that Iranian troops had opened fire at the Iran-Iraq border region and penetrated several kilometers into the Iraqi territory.

!Bob
01 May 2006, 03:21 PM
Well lets see some evidence to support your claims that the Kurds are operating terror bases and are using them to attack Iran. Especially since as noted in the linked article that these Kurds have been fighting the Turks.
Actually no. At least don't change the facts of what is in the article!

The PKK is believed to have links with anti-Iranian Kurdish fighters. There are no details on casualties.

AsanoAram
01 May 2006, 03:23 PM
f*** the Kurdish seperatist groups.
Violent bastards. Ordinary Kurds are good people, My family's even from a Kurdish are too, but the marxist and commie groups that put the word democratic in front of their group name, are nothing but barbarians, who like chopping off people's heads and sticking them on a spike during the Iran-Iraq war.

Mefisto
01 May 2006, 03:58 PM
Kurdish rebels killed two Turkish soldiers and injured a third in a grenade attack Wednesday on a military outpost, the Anatolia news agency reported, raising the number of Turkish troops killed this year to at least 17. More than 40 Kurdish guerrillas have also been killed in the same period in a series of clashes.

The Turkish deployment, which has been going on for several weeks, boosts an already large garrison in the region that by some estimates tops 250,000 soldiers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060427/ap_on_re_mi_ea/turkey_kurds_1;_ylt=AizamZ.EZXTNTp.ff.VZxtrtfLkA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


more trouble...

Rostam
02 May 2006, 12:47 AM
This was a brilliant move to clean up some of these terror organs. I always wondered why Iran is not more pro-active, specially at times like now. I have also heard that these Kurdish seperatist groups are under Israeli training and support.

Scarecrow
02 May 2006, 01:00 AM
This was a brilliant move to clean up some of these terror organs. I always wondered why Iran is not more pro-active, specially at times like now. I have also heard that these Kurdish seperatist groups are under Israeli training and support.

So basically what you are saying is that if you take both sides of the arguement about Israel and the terrorists they have to deal with, and apply them here but this time Iran is Israel and the Kurds are Hezbollah, then it is ok. So Israel is correct as well. Ok sounds good, lets have Iran stop all their support for the terror groups they support against Israel, and have Israel do the same.

Damn where is my nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Scarecrow
02 May 2006, 01:02 AM
Actually no. At least don't change the facts of what is in the article!

So they believe that there is a link. Since when does believing make it a fact?

I mean the US believed that Saddam had WMD's. Damn if that didn't blow up in their faces huh?

odessit19
02 May 2006, 01:04 AM
This was a brilliant move to clean up some of these terror organs. I always wondered why Iran is not more pro-active, specially at times like now. I have also heard that these Kurdish seperatist groups are under Israeli training and support.

Wow, Israel is everywhere again, damn Jews - they do rule...

Rostam
02 May 2006, 01:34 AM
So basically what you are saying is that if you take both sides of the arguement about Israel and the terrorists they have to deal with, and apply them here but this time Iran is Israel and the Kurds are Hezbollah, then it is ok. So Israel is correct as well. Ok sounds good, lets have Iran stop all their support for the terror groups they support against Israel, and have Israel do the same.

Damn where is my nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Peace is great. You would qualify for one.

Scarecrow
02 May 2006, 01:41 AM
Peace is great. You would qualify for one.

Too bad I can't get them to listien to me huh?

I mean really it would be best for all if peace could break out. There certainly are some issues to work out, but I think I have some ideas that if people abided by them could work. Now if I only could get them to talk with me.......