All Time German Team

[Psychosis hsv]

i cant tell moest of them we never saw them play
otherwise
1.sepp
2.
3.brehme
4.sammer
5.? huth
6.kaiser
7.?
8.moeller
9.mueller
10.podolski
11. ?

[Bayerntone]

There are some good players missing in Greg's teams, imo.

Klinsman
Vogts
Berthold
Allofs
A. Moeller
Buchwald
Haessler
Hamann
Bierhoff
Hoeness
Effenberg
Kirsten
Hans Mueller
Riedle
Reuter
Scholli
Linke

... hmm just some thoughts, may be they're good for team D and E.

[ForeverRed]

There are some good players missing in Greg's teams, imo.

Klinsman
Vogts
Berthold
Allofs
A. Moeller
Buchwald
Haessler
Hamann
Bierhoff
Hoeness
Effenberg
Kirsten
Hans Mueller
Riedle
Reuter
Scholli
Linke

... hmm just some thoughts, may be they're good for team D and E.

Vogts is in Team A. Scholl was never really prominent for Germany, neither was Effenberg, if only they played for the NT like they did for their clubs. Moeller and Klinsman were very good though.

[Bayerntone]

Oh, you are right ForeverRed. I don't have good eyes yesterday after watching too many matches. Vogts was already drafted in Greg's Team A.

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

What happened with Netzer in 74?

Did he play at the 70 WC at all?

At the WC 1970 he didn´t play,
but after the WC he played well matches for Germany
and got a permanent starting spot and was a world famous star,
played a brilliant EC 1972.

But in 1973/74 came a turning point for Netzer.
He moved to Real Madrid and was a superstar,
but there he became bad. The Spanish league didn´t
have a good quality at this time.
Netzer became fat and realized it too late.
At the training camp before the WC he did a lot of work
to get his quality back, but it was too late.
He lost his starting spot to Wolfgang Overath,
who played the WC for him.
Netzers only match at this WC was against the DDR
and there only 25 minutes.

In the next two years he won 2 Spanish championships for Real,
but his national career was ended (only 2 more matches in 1975).

Another popular victim at this time (WC 1974) was Erwin Kremers.
Coach Schön didn´t nominate him, because he called
a referee at a BL game a "stupid sow". :D

[Gregoriak]

What happened with Netzer in 74?

Did he play at the 70 WC at all?


Here's a post I wrote on Netzer and the Nationalmannschaft (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6797558&postcount=356) in a different thread.

[poorvi]

Team A

-------------------Seeler-------Müller

-------Overath-----------Walter----------Rahn

-------------------------Matthäus

----Breitner-----Kh.Förster-----Beckenbauer-----Vogts

---------------------------Maier


Team B

------------------Völler--------Rummenigge

----------Briegel---------Netzer-------Grabowski

-------------------------Sammer

-----Brehme--------Kohler------Schulz------Kaltz

---------------------Schumacher


Team C


----------------Fischer---------Hrubesch

---------Thon----------Ballack-------Littbarski

------------------------Szepan

--Schnellinger---Augenthaler---Stielike----Höttges

-------------------------Kahn

You have 7 players from the 90's onwards. The main reason that I did not pick any players from the 50's and 60's, is that the the number of teams participating was comparatively lesser. So reaching a semi finals in a tournment of 12 or 16 is not the same as reaching the semi finals of a world cup say, with 24 or 32 teams. The other reason is obviously that I havent seen any of the players you mentioned who have playeed before the 1970 world cup.

What strikes me as most suprising is that you have left out Klinsmann from your C team too. That, in my view is a bit too harsh.
Apart from the champions league, he has won every single title that is possible to win. he even has an olympics medal, if I recollect correctly. And he shares the 3rd place with Völler for all time goals scored for the German NT. What is more is that he was immensely popular in England. That is a rare honour for a German player in England. Many guys (and girls) became Tottenham fans just for the sake of Klinsmann.
On your point on Fritz Walter and the main years of his career were lost due to events he had no say in. With all due respect to him, he was propoganda material for the Germans. His achievement is glorified by making the world cup of 54 seem of national importance.Yes, i've seen the movie, it was touching, and well made. Better than the movie 'Goal' anyways. Klinsmann on the other hand, is more of a peoples favourite. Ofcourse he is the first captain of a united Germany to lift a major trophy, if you look at it form that point of view, but this has not been given the same weightage politically and in the media as the 54 world cup.

[Alex_K]

On your point on Fritz Walter and the main years of his career were lost due to events he had no say in. With all due respect to him, he was propoganda material for the Germans. His achievement is glorified by making the world cup of 54 seem of national importance.Yes, i've seen the movie, it was touching, and well made. Better than the movie 'Goal' anyways. Klinsmann on the other hand, is more of a peoples favourite.

Seriously... sometimes it's better to do some research before posting something.

[TheNameOfTheG..]

For me it is team from WC in Italy. Briliant mixture of quality young and experience players - Kohler, Reuter, Moller, Hassler, Matheus, Klinsman, Voller, Buchwald, Breme, Litbarski..

[Bayerntone]

Yeah, the players of the past got so much characters, each and every one of them, brilliant skills, marvellous pace, fantastic teamwork, unbelievable fervour
which made them Champions, absolutely!

They radiated the kind of football magic that captivated fans of the whole world!

[ForeverRed]

Anyone else find this thread depressing?

[The Old Lady Hertha]

I find my college studies more depressing :p

[Jaison]

For me it is team from WC in Italy. Briliant mixture of quality young and experience players - Kohler, Reuter, Moller, Hassler, Matheus, Klinsman, Voller, Buchwald, Breme, Litbarski..

Which is still not nearly as good as the teams of the late 60's-early 70's. The 72 team was frighteningly good. (not trying to knock our 90 team.. I loved that team... )

[Jaison]

Anyways, my attempt at an all-time team...

-------------------Meier-------------------

---Vogts----Kohler-----Stielike---Breitner---

--Littbarski---Beckenbauer---Matthäus----Overath---

-------------Müller----Rummenigge------------



I could fit in Seeler for Rummenigge, but I like the idea of Rummenigge and Müller playing in a forward twosome.

[The Old Lady Hertha]

This question boggles the mind. There are too many possible.

It is impossible to make an All-Time German Team.

[Jaison]

This question boggles the mind. There are too many possible.

It is impossible to make an All-Time German Team.

Impossible is Nothing.


:D

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Your attempt at landing a job at Adidas was pathetic at best

;)

[Jaison]

Your attempt at landing a job at Adidas was pathetic at best

;)

Hehe.. yeah... that's why I'm in Science and not Marketing.

:D

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Still better than "Joga Bonito"

;)

[Jaison]

Still better than "Joga Bonito"

;)

Very true! :D

or.. "Don't Tread on Me"


ugh....