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kebzach
28 Jul 2002, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Big Mukmuk
What is the point of a such a lawsuits?, to get attention.
yeah, ok. here's the attention you'll get:
"retarded soccer dorks try their luck at suing ESPN"
boy, that'll sure generate interest in the league. I'll bet that EVERYONE will want to be just like you, Mr. Soccer Fan.
Originally posted by Big Mukmuk
And forgive me for thinking that I could get anyone here for seeing the ingeniousness of my idea rather than the obvious ways to criticize it.
There was absolutely no genius in your idea. None at all.
Everyone on these boards is now dumber for having read your idea.
BenReilly
28 Jul 2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by tcmahoney
Myself, I'd rather spend the money on good high-quality cheese.
For you or your dancing hamster?
Fleetwood Mac #1
28 Jul 2002, 07:07 PM
Suing ESPN won't harm them or do soccer any good. Just Boycott ESPN products, all of thier programs except soccer, let them know about it and get your friends to do the same. 200 people cancelling thier ESPN mag's subsciption won't put them out of business or anything but they'll know thier mouth (soccer bashings) costed them that which they could easily avoid and they'd be better off <b>with</b> 200 more subscriptions. Things could get no worse for soccer at ESPN than it is right now. We have nothing to lose.
otterulz
28 Jul 2002, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by kebzach
Everyone on these boards is now dumber for having read your idea.
Haha, classic Billy Madison.
Honestly, I don't think that showing more MLS games on ESPN would help. It might attract a few fans but for the most part, I don't think it would. The people who already don't care about soccer will just be more turned off when they see soccer taking up time on ESPN. I think it's up to the MLS to market a good product.
Soccerdude redded
28 Jul 2002, 07:10 PM
The man has a right to say what ever,so leave him alone. I am going to sue NFL for having too many FAT players on the field, and I am also suing KFC for providing half time snacks for players.
Darryl
28 Jul 2002, 09:40 PM
Dear Mr. Muk,
Please don't let these naysayers bring you down. I'm an "attorney" and I'd love to take your case. I think it could really makes some waves over at ESPN. Please send me a PM and we can talk.
Sincerely,
Lionel Hutz
phojotastic
28 Jul 2002, 09:53 PM
If they thought it was worth their money - they would put highlights on. But their "numbers" have shown them otherwise. It's all about cash...viewership=cash. They have mathematically cut their losses with our viewership in the interest of their dollar. That's the way it works with all programming. It has never been about being fair.
peledre
28 Jul 2002, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Darryl
Dear Mr. Muk,
Please don't let these naysayers bring you down. I'm an "attorney" and I'd love to take your case. I think it could really makes some waves over at ESPN. Please send me a PM and we can talk.
Sincerely,
Lionel Hutz
LOL.
p.s. I heard Johnny Cochran isn't busy these days...
kwikstah
28 Jul 2002, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by otterulz
Haha, classic Billy Madison.
Honestly, I don't think that showing more MLS games on ESPN would help. It might attract a few fans but for the most part, I don't think it would. The people who already don't care about soccer will just be more turned off when they see soccer taking up time on ESPN. I think it's up to the MLS to market a good product.
However, you're trying to get those fans who might like soccer a little to come to the games. Showing MLS highlights on a major sports network helps legitimize MLS, and helps the product as a whole. You talk about marketing. Well, highlights are basically an advertisement for the product, and they don't cost the MLS anything additional.
Red Card
28 Jul 2002, 10:36 PM
Can't wait to see this on courtTV.
monster
29 Jul 2002, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Red Card
Can't wait to see this on courtTV.
More like frickin' Comedy Central.
notebook
29 Jul 2002, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by kwikstah
However, you're trying to get those fans who might like soccer a little to come to the games. Showing MLS highlights on a major sports network helps legitimize MLS, and helps the product as a whole. You talk about marketing. Well, highlights are basically an advertisement for the product, and they don't cost the MLS anything additional.
Sometimes it feels like soccer used up its media honeymoon in America with the NASL in the 70s and this time around the mainstream sports media are resistant to taking a U.S. professional soccer league seriously. I do think more coverage in the sports news would help MLS, but it looks like the league will have to earn it every step of the way. I hope that at some point a virtuous circle will kick in where more fans leads to more coverage which leads to more fans and makes some players stars leading to more coverage and fans etc..
mickhayafe
29 Jul 2002, 10:45 AM
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't mls attendence up like 25% approx. since the WC? (i read it on BigSoccer) so isn't soccer getting more fans now? so why try to sue to get publicity? I think that Espn saw that there are people interested in soccer in this country.
i don't think it's the best idea, but you guys really nailed this guy :|
rocketeer22
29 Jul 2002, 10:46 AM
On a slightly related topic, I have seen more commercials for the All-star game then in previous editions. I believe I saw two commercials for it within a half-hour last night. I don't know if this is because I live in the DC area, but the commercial looked like it was part of the national broadcast.
jbeall
29 Jul 2002, 10:47 AM
hmmm... more frivolous lawsuits to tie up the legal system... My, we live in a litigious society!
You know, there are far worse things in the world than inadequate soccer coverage. Halliburton has a contract to build additional cells at Guantanamo (gov't really is a tool of big business), Superfund sites aren't going to be cleaned up anytime soon (see how great MLS attendance is when MetroStars' fans are all dying of blacklung), we STILL haven't found Osama bin Laden, and so on.
Let's find more constructive uses for our time and money, like perhaps spending it on MLS tickets, okay?
usagoal
29 Jul 2002, 10:50 AM
Yeah, and I'm going to sue the fast food places because they didn't tell me fast food was bad for me....Oh, wait somebody already did that. Never mind.
prk166
29 Jul 2002, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Big Mukmuk
Can we as MLS fans file a class action suit against ESPN for not giving equal coverage to MLS and soccer overall. I know (well, at least as far as I know) that they are not legally required to show any particular highlights, and they could show badminton if they wanted. the point would be more of a protest than anything real.
An angle that could be used is that ESPN is willfulling ignoring a segment of their regular broadcast during their sports highlight show as an attempt to weaken soccer's appeal to the public, or something like that.
I leave the development of this topic to those of you who are much smarter than me.
Jack
Oh ya, that would be great. Who cares. We're already 50% socialist, why not just go all the way and completely ignore people's right to private property. Let's just nationalize all the channels & make sure that mini-golf, hurling, curling, and sopccer, and bowling all get as much air time as football, basketball, baseball, and hockey. Really, this is important. We can't surivive without it.
Metromania
29 Jul 2002, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Big Mukmuk
Can we as MLS fans file a class action suit against ESPN for not giving equal coverage to MLS and soccer overall. I know (well, at least as far as I know) that they are not legally required to show any particular highlights, and they could show badminton if they wanted. the point would be more of a protest than anything real.
An angle that could be used is that ESPN is willfulling ignoring a segment of their regular broadcast during their sports highlight show as an attempt to weaken soccer's appeal to the public, or something like that.
I leave the development of this topic to those of you who are much smarter than me.
Jack
What is your source of reference???????? if not, you are just talking sh.it my friend. Bandit bastard
USRufnex
29 Jul 2002, 12:16 PM
A class-action lawsuit against ESPN by soccer fans... insert dream sequence here
"This is... Sportscenter... at the top of our show, a lawsuit against the only network that ACTUALLY SHOWS MLS... and now to coddle litigous soccer fans, roll the tape ***5 mins of balls being passed back to the goalkeeper*** "had enough, yet?" quips Dan Patrick.
"I was actually just starting to like soccer... NOW THIS!" says an indignant Tony Kornheiser on PTI.
"Now my own kids want to SUE ME!" --Mike Lupica
"This just goes to show the litigous soccer-Mom left-wing conspiracy that goes unchecked on a daily basis in this country by the liberal media that shouldn't be showing soccer in the first place." --Rush Limbaugh
"WEALTHY PUBLISHING MAGNATE WITHDRAWS SUPPORT OF OKC BID FOR MLS TEAM"-- Headline seen in Daily Oklahoman
"Question 4: Are soccer fans geeks or just idiots?" --John McLaughlin on 'McLaughlin Group'
"LEGISLATURES IN 17 STATES PASS BILLS DECLARING SOCCER 'ILLEGAL'"-- AP HEADLINE
"Was it worth it?-- Popular backlash against the sport of soccer..." -- Cover story, Time Magazine
"To protest the litigation pending against ESPN, I rescend my congratulations made to the US national team" --JC Watts
"FBI/CIA release reports detailing soccer activities of purported terrorists before 9/11" --Washington Post
"Listen, youth soccer has been circumventing our children's moral compass for years..." --William Bennett on NBC's 'Meet the Press'
"Men's soccer declared 'un-American' by House/Senate in unanimous voice-vote"
(Reuters)-- Senate majority leader Tom Daschle, pressured by women's groups, succeeded in getting WUSA exempted from the declaration, stating, "Let's be reasonable. Women are not the terrorists here." Although the White House was not directly involved in the declaration, Pres. Bush took the opportunity to applaud congress's bi-partisanship on the issue. "Our children's future is now safe for baseball," he said.
"ESPN SETTLES LAWSUIT OUT OF COURT-- LITIGANTS GIVEN SETTLEMENT OF $4 MILLION--[I]say they will use money to start MLD... Major League Dodgeball" (AP)--
Happy now?...
SoFla Metro
29 Jul 2002, 12:25 PM
This is almost as funny as the wheelchair-bound guy suing the strip club because he couldn't get to the lapdance rooms.