Shoddy Reporting at Wash. Times: (Formerly "Times blames Zack; Ray blames the fans")

[Sandon Mibut]

Here's the link. Based on this, and some of the comments Zack has made here on BS, there seems to be some bad blood between Zack and the Times.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/sports/20020728-85303534.htm

And check out this little ditty from Ray. Man, does this guy have a brass pair. His team couldn't score in a whorehouse and he's taking out the paying fans. $hit, the way the team is playing, he AND Zack ought to be appologizing to the fans!

"We don't have any home-field advantage," Hudson said. "Home-field advantage? The Screaming Eagles the Barra Brava, all the wonderful fans we've got, they've got to be putting their hands up. Maybe we should just tell them to be quiet. Let's not have a great atmosphere. Let's not get everybody behind your team and screaming blue murder for your colors. Let's not do that. Let's play it in a [expletive] monastery."

[Magikfute]

Actually, I thought Ray meant the officiating was bad when he said that. I think he's saying something to the effect of "we have a great crowd and still don't get any calls, so we may as well be playing in a monastary".

[RoHo]

I think you may have misunderstood his quote. I think he was saying that the fans WERE really loud and supportive but that the team didn't live up to it. Basically, that the effort by the fans was wasted and he's surprised that we (the fans) didn't just throw up our hands and say that we give up.

[Th4119]

Ken Wright is an idiot. He completely missed on another quote in one of his articles.

[shawn12011]

-I agree, Sandon, you are not reading his quote right. He is looking for an atmosphere like Saprissa, Costa Rica, where ref's are intimdated into calling game where the home side gets the benefit of the doubt. Since we don't seem to get these calls he was exagerating about playing in a silent stadium, since the crowds has very little effect. The players pickup their level of play but right now teams and officals have no fear of RFK.

-Did Ken go to the same game we did?? Did he miss all the handballs???? Like the one Heaps used to settle the ball before his goal. Did he go to journalism school??? It seems he is often taking quotes and twisting them to fit his article. Maybe he should go back to basics. For right now Ken just give the score, attendance, and the time a date of the next game, until you can handle this writting gig.

[Th4119]

Originally posted by shawn12011
I agree, Sandon, you are not reading his quote right. He is looking for an atmosphere like Saprissa, Costa Rica, where ref's are intimdated into calling game where the home side gets the benefit of the doubt. Since we don't seem to get these calls he was exagerating about playing in a silent stadium, since the crowds has very little effect. The players pickup their level of play but right now teams and officals have no fear of RFK.

Bags of urine and some knives should turn this problem around.

Oh wait, and we all thought bringing in Eliseo was about an attendence bump.


;)

[bofahey]

Originally posted by Thamlin19
Ken Wright is an idiot. He completely missed on another quote in one of his articles.

This article is libelous... as Diceson's transcript of the whole quote CLEARLY indicates, Ray was actually saying that he doesn't understand why we get no calls despite having such a loud crowd.

Ken Wright should be banned from RFK. His cheap-shot at Stephen Zack after blatantly misquoting him earlier in the week is pathetic.

I'd like to nail him with a urine bag.

[Sandon Mibut]

OK, my bad. Totally, my bad. I just read Diceson's stuff and got to read the question that preceded Ray's quote on the fans and the whole quote.

Having read the entire context, it's pretty obvious the quote was misconstrued in the Times, which is pretty irresponsible and unfair.

Maybe the guy made an honest mistake but it sure seems like he was using that quote to fit into an agenda.

I basically only read the Times because of their soccer coverage - they had a great piece on Benny yesterday - but if it's gonna be misleading like this, I'm not gonna bother.

Again, my bad and I'm sincerely sorry for lashing out at Ray after reading only the part of the quote that was in the Times.

[Th4119]

Originally posted by bofahey

I'd like to nail him with a urine bag.

You should go for it. After all he'd probably just blame Kevin Payne, or maybe even Phil Anshutz.

[Barbara]

Originally posted by Sandon Mibut
OK, my bad. Totally, my bad. I just read Diceson's stuff and got to read the question that preceded Ray's quote on the fans and the whole quote.

Having read the entire context, it's pretty obvious the quote was misconstrued in the Times, which is pretty irresponsible and unfair.

Maybe the guy made an honest mistake but it sure seems like he was using that quote to fit into an agenda.

I basically only read the Times because of their soccer coverage - they had a great piece on Benny yesterday - but if it's gonna be misleading like this, I'm not gonna bother.

Again, my bad and I'm sincerely sorry for lashing out at Ray after reading only the part of the quote that was in the Times.


I, too, just read Diceson's quotes and I don't see how anyone could accidentally misunderstand what Hudson was trying to say.

Wright clearly misrepresented Ray's meaning in the Times article. This is too bad because Ray's support among fans is starting to teeter and it would be a shame to have casual fans turned against Ray over something he didn't say.

[CHICO13]

Ken Wright=Cheap shot artist.

[Darryl]

Originally posted by CHICO13
Ken Wright=Cheap shot artist.

Based on my reading of the Wright article and the complete transcript as it exists on Diceon's site, I would have to disagree with you CHICO13.

I think you're giving Wright too much credit. A "cheap shot artist" can think. I don't believe Wright is even intellectually capable of this. I think he's just a moron who can't even understand the concept of sarcasm that Hudson was so cleary using in that statement about the fans.

[CHICO13]

Originally posted by Darryl


Based on my reading of the Wright article and the complete transcript as it exists on Diceon's site, I would have to disagree with you CHICO13.

I think you're giving Wright too much credit. A "cheap shot artist" can think. I don't believe Wright is even intellectually capable of this. I think he's just a moron who can't even understand the concept of sarcasm that Hudson was so cleary using in that statement about the fans.
I agree with you 100%, I was refering to the shot he took at Steve Zack in his opening paragraph.

[BudWiser]

My take is Ray was saying the fans were great. He's frustrated United didn't use that incredible fan support to win games. He's just identifying w/the frustration of the fans-to have them cheer so hard for his team and have his team lose in front of them hurts Ray

Just sarcasm from Ray, that's all

[BudWiser]

Taking cheap shots in articles that are supposed to be news is just unprofessional

The first sentence about the game should not be about Stephen Zack-talking about him getting $$ and watching his team fall into last place is mean-spirited

Wright is usually a good writer. This is very unfortunate I've lost some respect for him

[Knave]

“We had to take Roy out – enough said."

http://unitedmania.mlsfansites.com/story.php?news_ID=200759&PHPSESSID=c3f30f91688c086f9a73003d76d4c9f3

That, for future reference, is blame.

[Winoman]

Originally posted by etcheverry666
.......Wright is usually a good writer. This is very unfortunate I've lost some respect for him

Until recently, I've enjoyed Wright's coverage/articles on soccer in general and DC United in particular. Now this particular article starts with : 1) a personal attack against SZ & later, 2) a blatant misquote against RH. If this article is not followed by an immediate retraction, he should have his press credentials revoked by DC United. I have lost A LOT of respect for him.

Winoman

[Jose L. Couso]

Mr. Ken Wright,

An apology is in order.

[chayes]

Wright's coverage has been going downhill all year... remember earlier when he said the team was going to trade Convey?
This is just the step over the edge. He reads these boards, its where he gets his material. Everyone should tell him how much his writing has sucked this year.

I think I've read enough of him, no more reading his articles, I don't want to give him the hits.

[Sachin]

Dear Ken Wright,

You couldn't carry me.

Sincerely,

Steven Goff's Jock