McBride vs Baros -- EPL Stats

[Soccernethost]

Brian McBride: 59 started, 33 subbed and 24 goals
Milan Baros: 66 started, 22 subbed and 27 goals

If you make the assumption that a start is worth 80 minutes and a sub appearance is worth 20...

McBride...5380 minutes, 24 goals, .40 goals/90 minutes.
Baros...5720 minutes, 27 goals, .37 goals/90 minutes.

Those are obviously estimates. But there's not alot between the two players. And that's without considering the dirty work McBride does for the team or the fact that Baros played on far better teams than McBride prior to 2005/6.

[OCKlinsmann]

There are Lies...Damned Lies....and Statistics.

Who cares about their stats. They both suck equally.

(No offense intended to the McBride and Baros faithful...but the world is full of more talented strikers)

[Deuteriumoxide]

There are Lies...Damned Lies....and Statistics.

Who cares about their stats. They both suck equally.

(No offense intended to the McBride and Baros faithful...but the world is full of more talented strikers)

thanks for your wonderful addition.

[superdave]

Also, doesn't Baros take PKs?

OTOH, Baros is notoriously better with country than club. Once, in a discussion of Keller that was heavy on references to his club play, I called Keller the Milan Baros of goalkeepers.

With McBride, WYSIWYG.

[Hed7181]

(No offense intended to the McBride and Baros faithful...but the world is full of more talented strikers)

True, but the USA or Czech Republic is not. (except possibly Koller)

[sidefootsitter]

I don't think Baros is well suited for the EPL. Brian is.

The Czechs however play a totally different style game than Milan's English teams.

Arenaball is basically the same flank&cross style as the EPL.

[jcsd]

This is the (league) stats for this season:

Baros:
Goals: 8
Assists: 3
Appearnces: 24(3)
Minutes: 1884
Shots: 23
Penalites: 1


McBride
Goals: 9
Assists: 3
Appearnces: 33(3)
Minutes: 2585
Shots: 30
Penalties: 0

[OCKlinsmann]

Also, doesn't Baros take PKs?

OTOH, Baros is notoriously better with country than club. Once, in a discussion of Keller that was heavy on references to his club play, I called Keller the Milan Baros of goalkeepers.

With McBride, WYSIWYG.

Baros stats probably suffered from playing a good deal of time in a lone striker role at Liverpool, to that extent, McHead's stats are a bit deceptive.

But still...they're both hacks.

[WarriorSoccer]

Baros stats probably suffered from playing a good deal of time in a lone striker role at Liverpool, to that extent, McHead's stats are a bit deceptive.

But still...they're both hacks.

All right, we all know by now, you have an agenda here you can stop promoting it. They aren't the best strikers in the world it is obvious. They're no Eto'o or Henry, no one is arguing that. The thread was simply to compare the two striker's stats for their season/careers in the EPL. If you want to make some criticisms why dont you compare the two. Say McBride is to slow and indecisive with the ball at his feet and Baros doesn't have nearly the aggressiveness or ability that McBride does in the air. Add something to the conversation and quit pissing about the two guys.

[BED-STYPUNDIT]

All right, we all know by now, you have an agenda here you can stop promoting it. They aren't the best strikers in the world it is obvious. They're no Eto'o or Henry, no one is arguing that. The thread was simply to compare the two striker's stats for their season/careers in the EPL. If you want to make some criticisms why dont you compare the two. Say McBride is to slow and indecisive with the ball at his feet and Baros doesn't have nearly the aggressiveness or ability that McBride does in the air. Add something to the conversation and quit pissing about the two guys.

Thank you for telling him that he has a awful tendency to do that.

Baros scored two this sunday aganist BCity, but that was really one of his few clutch performances. Before that agme, his ten other goals this season weren't as critical as they may have seen, most of them in mop up duty.

[asdf2]

Also, doesn't Baros take PKs?

OTOH, Baros is notoriously better with country than club. Once, in a discussion of Keller that was heavy on references to his club play, I called Keller the Milan Baros of goalkeepers.

With McBride, WYSIWYG.

To me, McBride is a guy who also plays far better for his national team than his club. May be less true now that he has shown well in the EPL but always seemed like a good but not great striker for Columbus, but has been quite consistent for the USA.

[OCKlinsmann]

All right, we all know by now, you have an agenda here you can stop promoting it. They aren't the best strikers in the world it is obvious. They're no Eto'o or Henry, no one is arguing that. The thread was simply to compare the two striker's stats for their season/careers in the EPL. If you want to make some criticisms why dont you compare the two. Say McBride is to slow and indecisive with the ball at his feet and Baros doesn't have nearly the aggressiveness or ability that McBride does in the air. Add something to the conversation and quit pissing about the two guys.

Sir, with all due respect, it's a stats question, the stats are posted and I said what needed to be said. If you have a different angle that has nothing to do with stats...NEET-O but don't badger others to follow your illogical and unsolicited meanderings.

[romagol10]

Sir, with all due respect, it's a stats question, the stats are posted and I said what needed to be said. If you have a different angle that has nothing to do with stats...NEET-O but don't badger others to follow your illogical and unsolicited meanderings.
What's wrong with stats? Your "damn lies" quote is a bullshit line used by people too stupid to understand the usefulness of statistics. Stats don't hold up as an argument on their own but that doesn't mean they should be rejected.

[PasadenaBlitz]

Back to subject, it should make for an interesting game come WC. Most people I talk to think Baros is head and shoulders better than McBride. Strangely they seem to have similar numbers. My take would be that McBride's effort will show results, if it only came down to the difference between the strikers.

[bbsbt]

Sir, with all due respect, it's a stats question, the stats are posted and I said what needed to be said. Sir, with all due respect, take a look at the title of this thread.
The thread is about McBride vs Baros, not McBride & Baros vs other players.

[taco jones]

I know you're comparing the two because they're in the same league...

But a McBride vs Koller analysis would make a bit more sense.

[Fulham Fan]

I know you're comparing the two because they're in the same league...

But a McBride vs Koller analysis would make a bit more sense.

I agree. If the stats are that close, you must then talk about other things. McBride is a target forward and does a lot of work for his team. He badgers defenses, as does Helguson. Baros is pacier and can scare defenses by chasing the ball down the wings and turning towards goal. They're different players. Individual managers - let alone fans - would value them differently.

[Soccernethost]

What's wrong with stats? Your "damn lies" quote is a bullshit line used by people too stupid to understand the usefulness of statistics.

Repped.

[Soccernethost]

I know you're comparing the two because they're in the same league...

I'm also comparing them because there's a real tendency on these boards to think that every player that suits up for a World Cup opponent is the baddest mofo on the planet.

And it's just not true. We compare pretty well, player by player, with more teams than not in the World Cup. And even the teams that are unquestionably better than the U.S. aren't better at every position.

[sidefootsitter]

Baros amazingly gets a lot better when he gets Nedved and Rosicky feeding him the ball.

Brian goes from Dead Snake and Malbranque to Beasley and Dempsey/Reyna, which is at best a toss-up and probably a drop-off on the WC vs. EPL levels.