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Ringo
28 Jul 2002, 12:22 AM
Despite Saturday's match, I had this questions about Cannon:
What's his outlook for the Nats?
Maybe I'm too much of a homer on the instance, but I haven't heard his name tossed around that much. Seems like Howard has been annointed. Thornton's been mentioned. haven't heard Cannon's name. All quality keepers, but will Cannon get a shot? Has he already got his shot? Is he destined to be a great MLS keeper, but have a limited international future?
Looking for expert opinion. Okay, I'm just looking for any opinion.
Thanks (sorry if this has already been discussed ....)
QuakeFan Z
28 Jul 2002, 02:24 PM
Well, I know that Joe is very determined to get to the National level...I heard that Bruce was supposed to take a look at Joe for the World Cup, but never got around to doing it(or something like that)
Anyone out there know more than me...please tell and do correct me if anything I said was wrong
Richter Boy
28 Jul 2002, 03:52 PM
Goalies standing in Joe's way:
Keller
Friedel (both of whom still have many good years left in "goalie" time)
Meola
Thornton
Howard
Joe "hands of stone" Cannon needs to improve his distribution and footwork as well.
Richter Boy
28 Jul 2002, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by QuakeFan Z
Well, I know that Joe is very determined to get to the National level...I heard that Bruce was supposed to take a look at Joe for the World Cup, but never got around to doing it(or something like that)
Anyone out there know more than me...please tell and do correct me if anything I said was wrong
There is no way in hell the USA would have ever advanced with Cannon in goal.
Defender
28 Jul 2002, 06:52 PM
Richter Boy had good points on footwork and distribution.
Cannon will probably get a chance, but he nees to improve his consistency right now if he wants to get the opportunity. He's going to have less of a chance of Howard, so he'll need to make the most of it.
Howard is the top prospect as it is right now. Rimando was getting his name tossed around last year, but that has dropped with how bad DCU has been doing.
DJ Countess of Dallas might become a prospect in a year or two. He played in one game this year, saving 6 of 7 shots ending in a 1-1 tie against Kansas on July 6th.
I pulled this from the Dallas website:
"Was acquired by the MetroStars on August 7, 2001 in a weighted lottery among MLS teams…has started all 37 of his career games with the United States U-20 National Team and is the starting goalkeeper for the U.S. Olympic Team…started 21 games with the U-20 side in 2001, posting a 10-7-4 record and a 1.00 goals-against average…in addition to his play with the U-20 team, was also the starting goalkeeper for the U-17 team that finished fourth at the U-17 World Championships in New Zealand in 1999…played one season at UCLA (2000) before joining the Pro-40 program, playing in 19 games for the Bruins and posting a 1.02 goals-against average, the second-best mark in the Pac-10 Conference."
6-1 185 GOALKEEPER
Born: 1/9/82 in Sacramento, CA
Hometown: Sacramento, CA
Citizenship: United States
College: UCLA
IBleedTeal
28 Jul 2002, 06:58 PM
Trade DoNO for DJ Countess..
modpappy
28 Jul 2002, 11:35 PM
Joe is great for us, but I don't want to see him for the Nats until he can come out with confidence to a cross or a corner---I know he gets razzed a lot for his distribution (which has made some inprovement) and for his footwork, but to me the real times I'm scared are when he comes for a corner or cross and just ends up empty-handed...any decent International striker is going to exploit that all day long, as would most good defenders who come forward. To me his sweeper-keeper skills are great, he's fearless and quick to the ball, but it's the more traditional "line-keeper" stuff that he really lacks---and with the over-abundance of good American keepers Joe would have to really improve a whole lot to really get some consideration.
msknutson
29 Jul 2002, 03:34 AM
when he played for the Flash (in the A-League). He has improved greatly, but still does need to work on a couple areas that have been mentioned, namely his distribution and his concentration in "traffic." I still cringe when the Quakes give up a corner, as each one becomes an adventure for the defense.
As for being a pure shot-stopper, his skills are tremendous. If he can hone some of the "smaller" skills, he has a great chance of getting a look on the international stage.
doppelganger
29 Jul 2002, 02:20 PM
another dark horse in the Nat's GK pool is Jonny Walker (how awesoem would it be to have a Gk named after "dear old grandad"), playing in Chile with Catholica....
Manchester
29 Jul 2002, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Richter Boy
Actually Richter Boy, if you know anything about American soccer, you would be interested (I hope) to know that prior to the World Cup, during an interview Arena placed Cannon in a group of 4 other goalies (along with Thornton, Howard, Meola, and Presthus) as the top candidates for the 3rd keeper slot on the national team.
Furthermore, I think Cannon's stats the last 2 years speak for themselves. Yes, he is overaggressive at times, and probably benefits from a pretty good defense. However, I don't care how good your defense is, you don't put up Cannon numbers unless you are a premiere goalkeeper.
Such overarching and ignorant comments have no place in American soccer.
There is no way in hell the USA would have ever advanced with Cannon in goal.
Richter Boy
29 Jul 2002, 07:03 PM
The previous post made a great point in their last statement.
Yeah, idiot, I know nothing about American soccer. And you cannot grasp the difficult concept of big soccer posting.
Manchester
29 Jul 2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Richter Boy
The previous post made a great point in their last statement.
Yeah, idiot, I know nothing about American soccer. And you cannot grasp the difficult concept of big soccer posting.
Great reply Richter Boy...perhaps you could answer on the merits rather than resort to second-grade "told-you-so" type responses. I think you get my point, now I'm just waiting to hear you say something substantive.